#2044270 - 08/24/10 08:32 PM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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Tomahawk
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I have 2 new ones still in the box, they don't tell you on the box that it need windows XP or newer, I got Mac's.
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#2044812 - 08/25/10 07:37 AM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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BSK
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The image quality on the time-lapse cameras aren't very good. Wrong there my friend. The pictures are in HD (high definition).
You do realize there's no such thing as "High Definition" digital images don't you? Image quality is all about imager quality, lens glass quality and Megapixels. The Plotwatcher records in 1280x1024 video (double what most video resolution is), but that is still only 1.3 MP images. That's smaller images than any trail-cam on the market. The lower the megapixels the less you can expand the image on a computer screen and maintain clarity.
They are absolutely very clear. Exception being fast movement (deer running away). Maybe the Reconyx has poor image in time lapse but not these plot watcher cameras...
Reconyx cams certainly don't take the best pictures in the world.
Take a look at one... (look at its images it produces) you might just be impressed.
I have taken a look at one. I'm not impressed with the images at all.
In addition, the Plotwatcher's batteries will only last about a week, and don't buy into the sales claim of being able to review the video in minutes. It actually can take a long time to review the entire video of a weeks worth of images. We're talking about 50,000+ images in a week.
As a scouting tool--watching a large open area to see how deer are entering/exiting and at what time during daylight--these units have great promise. As a tool for evaluating what bucks are using a property and their size, it is a bust.
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#2044939 - 08/25/10 08:50 AM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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tndad
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i think a pic aevery 10 seconds is too much. i would go with 30 sec or 60- that would cut down on battery usage and unecessary review time
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#2044971 - 08/25/10 09:05 AM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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mrk80
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Can you POST some plot watcher pics??? I would like to see there quality...
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#2044987 - 08/25/10 09:10 AM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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Andy S.
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Here is my take on time lapse cameras:
Where I hunt, I only see the time lapse camera as a marginal tool for early season scouting (Jul-Sep) to see what has been visiting fields or open areas during daylight hours only. Most if not all of these pictures will be taken with deer at a considerable distance (75-200 yards) so one should not expect to identify unique deer by the numbers. In late summer most deer are on their "summer feeding patterns" frequenting fields and openings allowing themselves to be captured via time lapse. One should not expect this careless behavior to carry over into the fall months during peak deer hunting as many deer sense human intrusion and change their routine, travel patterns and behavior considerably.
Once season opens and the us hunters hit the woods, the time lapse cameras will be useless because virtually no deer visit our fields and openings during daylight hours! If a deer of either sex were to slip out in the openings during daylight hours on our club, I can guarantee it will always be during the last 15-30 minutes which renders the time lapse camera useless unless the deer is literally 50 yards or less, and then it will be questionable as there is no flash and it will be extremely low-light conditions. Remember, this is on land that gets hunted pretty hard thus forcing the deer to stay in woods and/or thick cover 98% of daylight hours. I might could get some use out of it late Dec/Jan time frame on winter wheat if hunting pressure has subsided and the deer let their guard down. It might would tell me that the deer are coming out the last 15-30 minutes of daylight instead of after dark.
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#2045135 - 08/25/10 10:44 AM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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Tomahawk
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Can you POST some plot watcher pics??? I would like to see there quality...
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#2045152 - 08/25/10 10:56 AM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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landman
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Sounds like your club's putting too much pressure on the deer.
We still see and kill some of our bigger deer in fields
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#2045161 - 08/25/10 11:00 AM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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The image quality on the time-lapse cameras aren't very good. Wrong there my friend. The pictures are in HD (high definition). You do realize there's no such thing as "High Definition" digital images don't you? Image quality is all about imager quality, lens glass quality and Megapixels. The Plotwatcher records in 1280x1024 video (double what most video resolution is), but that is still only 1.3 MP images. That's smaller images than any trail-cam on the market. The lower the megapixels the less you can expand the image on a computer screen and maintain clarity. They are absolutely very clear. Exception being fast movement (deer running away). Maybe the Reconyx has poor image in time lapse but not these plot watcher cameras... Reconyx cams certainly don't take the best pictures in the world. Take a look at one... (look at its images it produces) you might just be impressed. I have taken a look at one. I'm not impressed with the images at all. In addition, the Plotwatcher's batteries will only last about a week, and don't buy into the sales claim of being able to review the video in minutes. It actually can take a long time to review the entire video of a weeks worth of images. We're talking about 50,000+ images in a week. As a scouting tool--watching a large open area to see how deer are entering/exiting and at what time during daylight--these units have great promise. As a tool for evaluating what bucks are using a property and their size, it is a bust.  By the way I can watch 7 days in less than 10 minutes.
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#2045215 - 08/25/10 11:48 AM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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Sounds like your club's putting too much pressure on the deer.
We still see and kill some of our bigger deer in fields
In almost 20 years of food plotting, I've NEVER seen a mature buck in a field during daylight hours. I've got a few trail-cam pics of mature bucks in the plots during daylight, but those too are very rare.
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#2045227 - 08/25/10 11:56 AM
Re: Any one using a plot watcher
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These pictures are extremely clear. And to tell me (an owner) of a plotwatcher that it takes a long time to watch a weeks worth of survellience... well buddy you just don't know what your talking about on this one. It has different speeds that you can search with including a "deer search" feature that will zip to first picture with deer in it. Normally BSK I would give you all the respect in the world but you are so far off on this one its almost funny. Do you sell Recoyx or what?? By the way I can watch 7 days in less than 10 minutes.
Tomahwak,
I've talked to quite a few people who have these cameras. I've seen the images, the video, and the video's "deer search" capabilities.
As a scouting tool--to see how deer are entering/exiting a large area IN DAYLIGHT--this camera has real promise.
But as a "trail-camera" for evaluating buck age, size and identity, it's virtually worthless. An image of a buck at 200 feet from the camera in only 1.3 megapixels isn't going to show you much at all, other than big antlers versus small antlers.
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