#2039223 - 08/20/10 10:22 PM
Re: Why shouldnt we ask ?s
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Man TWRA can't win.People in unit b asked to have the same chances as people in unit a and l.now that they got what they wanted people who don't hunt b are saying to change it back.
Edited by Football Hunter (08/20/10 10:22 PM)
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#2039225 - 08/20/10 10:24 PM
Re: Why shouldnt we ask ?s
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But IM not looking at "my situation",Im covered in deer.
95 counties ONE buck reg?Thats what Im saying. We already have one buck regs for the state... You can only kill one per day in TN....
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#2039227 - 08/20/10 10:26 PM
Re: Why shouldnt we ask ?s
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Man TWRA can't win.People in unit b asked to have the same chances as people in unit a and l.now that they got what they wanted people who don't hunt b are saying to change it back. You miss my point,if places like Knox and Cocke counties need 3 buck limits,what do places like Haywood county,and other places with FAR FAR more deer need?Your right though,dont hunt,and dont really care what happens in"B" it just seems crazy to me.
i got your point and was just making my own.You already got an explanation from them but keep on and on about it.You might not agree with it but you were told why its in place.
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#2039237 - 08/20/10 10:39 PM
Re: Why shouldnt we ask ?s
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Man TWRA can't win.People in unit b asked to have the same chances as people in unit a and l.now that they got what they wanted people who don't hunt b are saying to change it back. You miss my point,if places like Knox and Cocke counties need 3 buck limits,what do places like Haywood county,and other places with FAR FAR more deer need?Your right though,dont hunt,and dont really care what happens in"B" it just seems crazy to me. i got your point and was just making my own.You already got an explanation from them but keep on and on about it.You might not agree with it but you were told why its in place.
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#2039506 - 08/21/10 09:00 AM
Re: Why shouldnt we ask ?s
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Please....what is the "science" for extending gun,and all three deer units having the same limit? No one ever said these changes were intended to change the deer herd or benefit the deer herd. They were done to please hunters and make regulations more even across the state. Most importantly, after the first year of these changes, no harm appears to have been done. In fact, harvested buck age structure climbed to an all-time high, and harvest of yearling bucks fell to a decade low. Doe harvests continue to be adequate. If you can provide more hunting and harvest opportunity without doing harm to the herd, why wouldn't you? Come on BSK,if me or Wes suggest something,we are asked "Where is your data to support this?" You just said,"No harm appears to have been done." I dont have the same education as you,but I do have one,and that seems like a double standard to me.Which might be fair,but where was the data ?
How many times do you want last year's harvest data posted and discussed? I'm sure it's already been 40 or 50 times.
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#2039507 - 08/21/10 09:04 AM
Re: Why shouldnt we ask ?s
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I may be considered a "trophyist " on here,but IM not,just a mature/big buck,enthusiast,
Ummmm, a "mature/big buck enthusiast" IS a trophyist, if the attitude goes along with it.
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#2039754 - 08/21/10 02:47 PM
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Our twra has done a terrific job! I started hunting in 1974 and i can tell you we are light years from there now.
I cant begin to tell you how back then it was a thrill to just see a deer! Now i see them almost as regularly as anything else in the woods. I love it!
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#2040129 - 08/21/10 09:24 PM
Re: Why shouldnt we ask ?s
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I may be considered a "trophyist " on here,but IM not,just a mature/big buck,enthusiast, Ummmm, a "mature/big buck enthusiast" IS a trophyist, if the attitude goes along with it. 
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#2040212 - 08/21/10 10:04 PM
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We seriously question our President about many things,many people think we should get out of Iraq/Afganistan,many think we should stay.Both sides probably have valid points. We ? our governors about all kinds of things to,our police chiefs,out school board,our senators.Yes these are elected officials,but far and away,most of them are lawyers,our at least very educated,and should know what they are dealing with. So then why do many say,"Ill just go by what TWRA says,and just hunt."? Or "Why should we question them at all?" Any rule change will have pros and cons,depending on your view point,Im sure pure bow hunters werent thrilled by having more gun hunters in the woods starting last year,etc,etc. I think TWRA does a fine job,just seems Un American to not question authority,or to be told you shouldnt. JMO FH
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#2040243 - 08/21/10 10:22 PM
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Please....what is the "science" for extending gun,and all three deer units having the same limit? No one ever said these changes were intended to change the deer herd or benefit the deer herd. They were done to please hunters and make regulations more even across the state. Most importantly, after the first year of these changes, no harm appears to have been done. In fact, harvested buck age structure climbed to an all-time high, and harvest of yearling bucks fell to a decade low. Doe harvests continue to be adequate. If you can provide more hunting and harvest opportunity without doing harm to the herd, why wouldn't you? Come on BSK,if me or Wes suggest something,we are asked "Where is your data to support this?" You just said,"No harm appears to have been done." I dont have the same education as you,but I do have one,and that seems like a double standard to me.Which might be fair,but where was the data ? How many times do you want last year's harvest data posted and discussed? I'm sure it's already been 40 or 50 times.
Actually BSK, FH is asking "where was the data prior to making those changes?", which is a valid question.
There's nothing wrong with having an opinion that differs from the status quo.
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