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#2033704 - 08/17/10 08:55 AM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: BSK]
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I can't tell you how many times I've been down the logging roads on my place, and find the cedars rubbed...very few of them there on the road, but they pretty much all get rubbed. Last year there were two little spindly cedars within 20 yds of each other, both rubbed, while not another tree within 100 yds was attacked. Something about those cedars I think still.
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#2033717 - 08/17/10 09:02 AM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
I can't tell you how many times I've been down the logging roads on my place, and find the cedars rubbed...very few of them there on the road, but they pretty much all get rubbed. Last year there were two little spindly cedars within 20 yds of each other, both rubbed, while not another tree within 100 yds was attacked. Something about those cedars I think still.
Yep,same on my place.
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#2033755 - 08/17/10 09:23 AM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: Football Hunter]
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From my decade-long rub study I found that the larger the rubbed tree, the fewer the species chosen by bucks. Small rubbed tree species basically matched the species available. I've seen small rubs on trees and sapling of every species bucks had access to. But as the diameter of the rubbed tree increased, species choices declined. By the time rubbed trees increased to the size of a Coke can, bucks were down to using only 5 species (beech, maple, pine, cedar and poplar). By the time rubbed tree diameter increased to the size of a man's thigh, species choice was down to just one--cedar.
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#2033920 - 08/17/10 10:59 AM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: BSK]
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I've seen some of those "calf-sized" rubs on cedars too Bryan. Talk about a rush to see those! ;\)
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#2033960 - 08/17/10 11:30 AM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
By the time rubbed tree diameter increased to the size of a man's thigh, species choice was down to just one--cedar.
And sometimes Beech.

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#2033990 - 08/17/10 11:47 AM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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Every once in awhile I will see huge rubs on trees other than cedar, including beech, poplar and pine.
Didn't mean to imply bucks won't make huge signpost rubs on other species, just that in the study we encountered none other than cedar.

Here's a beech big enough that the buck couldn't get the trunk between his brow-tines:

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#2034087 - 08/17/10 12:45 PM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: Setterman]
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#2034105 - 08/17/10 12:52 PM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: DOC1187]
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Probably is a function of what is available to rub. In the area where the two photos above were taken, there aren't many large cedars.
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#2034241 - 08/17/10 02:55 PM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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Another anomally from last year on my property{weird\cold weather year} We had very few rubs early on through Nov. Then, at the very, very end of late Mz. season{first week of Jan} the trees[mosly cedars} were getting shredded! There were fresh rubs everywhere in early through mid-late January. Signpost trees were were hit anew, new trees were hit everywhere. I have never seen this happen before in the 15 years I have owned this property.
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#2034271 - 08/17/10 03:14 PM Re: Why do bucks prefer cedars? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
From my decade-long rub study I found that the larger the rubbed tree, the fewer the species chosen by bucks. Small rubbed tree species basically matched the species available. I've seen small rubs on trees and sapling of every species bucks had access to. But as the diameter of the rubbed tree increased, species choices declined. By the time rubbed trees increased to the size of a Coke can, bucks were down to using only 5 species (beech, maple, pine, cedar and poplar). By the time rubbed tree diameter increased to the size of a man's thigh, species choice was down to just one--cedar.


On dad's farm last year. I found three rubbed trees that were thigh-sized last year. Two were cedar and one was a white pine.

BSK--Does early season rubbing differ from serious pre-rut rubbing as to which species of tree is used?
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