#2033150 - 08/16/10 08:05 PM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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99% scent eliminator, its all you need. Don't let anything know you are in the woods.
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#2033355 - 08/16/10 10:06 PM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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99% scent eliminator, its all you need. Don't let anything know you are in the woods. Except all the deer that can smell that "1%" just fine. Oh, and the lawyers who told them not to call it 100% eliminator so they don't get sued for false advertising like the makers of Scentlock did. http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=335941
Is that really a product?
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#2033379 - 08/16/10 10:21 PM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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gator-n-buck
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I been reading all this stuff about cover scents and I'm not sure any of us have a clue what we are talking about... I once used coon urine as a cover scent (3 tinks bomb containers full around me) and I wasn't hanging that high (18 ft.) in the tree.... I had two does and yerling walk all over me for approx. 50 minutes.... I was in the wide open from there direction and a few times the does would look UP my way while feeding.... They never figured me out but they were smelling something that caused them to look up my way...
Using buck urine last year and had a buck (Very nice 10 pt.)come in the wrong direction behind me off the ridge..... He stop short and started stomping for several minutes... I finally tried to turn on him (sling rubbed stand) and he went about 60 yards into a thicket but stopped and turned bac into my direction to figure out what was going on....
I don't believe any of these deer and others detected human scent..... I do want to add that I go to the extreme (washing, clothes, boots, spraying, and changing clothes before hunt) to eliminate scent....
Edited by gator-n-buck (08/16/10 10:22 PM)
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#2033387 - 08/16/10 10:29 PM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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I been reading all this stuff about cover scents and I'm not sure any of us have a clue what we are talking about... I once used coon urine as a cover scent (3 tinks bomb containers full around me) and I wasn't hanging that high (18 ft.) in the tree.... I had two does and yerling walk all over me for approx. 50 minutes.... I was in the wide open from there direction and a few times the does would look UP my way while feeding.... They never figured me out but they were smelling something that caused them to look up my way...
Using buck urine last year and had a buck (Very nice 10 pt.)come in the wrong direction behind me off the ridge..... He stop short and started stomping for several minutes... I finally tried to turn on him (sling rubbed stand) and he went about 60 yards into a thicket but stopped and turned bac into my direction to figure out what was going on....
I don't believe any of these deer and others detected human scent..... I do want to add that I go to the extreme (washing, clothes, boots, spraying, and changing clothes before hunt) to eliminate scent.... I've had deer bed down directly underneath my tree and go to sleep, and I stunk to high heaven from the walk in wearing my stand and carrying another hunter's. Dropped pieces of apple on their heads just to see what they'd do... nothing, but eventually they got tired of it and moved. Having deer around doesn't prove anything about the effectiveness of cover scents.
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#2033401 - 08/16/10 10:41 PM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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gator-n-buck
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I been reading all this stuff about cover scents and I'm not sure any of us have a clue what we are talking about... I once used coon urine as a cover scent (3 tinks bomb containers full around me) and I wasn't hanging that high (18 ft.) in the tree.... I had two does and yerling walk all over me for approx. 50 minutes.... I was in the wide open from there direction and a few times the does would look UP my way while feeding.... They never figured me out but they were smelling something that caused them to look up my way...
Using buck urine last year and had a buck (Very nice 10 pt.)come in the wrong direction behind me off the ridge..... He stop short and started stomping for several minutes... I finally tried to turn on him (sling rubbed stand) and he went about 60 yards into a thicket but stopped and turned bac into my direction to figure out what was going on....
I don't believe any of these deer and others detected human scent..... I do want to add that I go to the extreme (washing, clothes, boots, spraying, and changing clothes before hunt) to eliminate scent.... I've had deer bed down directly underneath my tree and go to sleep, and I stunk to high heaven from the walk in wearing my stand and carrying another hunter's. Dropped pieces of apple on their heads just to see what they'd do... nothing, but eventually they got tired of it and moved. Having deer around doesn't prove anything about the effectiveness of cover scents.
I agree... who really knows how good a deer nose is.... I never asked one... I know some hunting dogs are better then others when it comes to there nose.... Maybe not all deer are created equal...
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#2033445 - 08/16/10 11:39 PM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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I have been hunting sense 89 i use no sent eliminator i even smoke while i hunt and 90 percent of the time i hunt off the ground.i kill plenty of deer no B.C. bucks but some nice bucks and plenty of does
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#2033639 - 08/17/10 08:01 AM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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I been reading all this stuff about cover scents and I'm not sure any of us have a clue what we are talking about... I once used coon urine as a cover scent (3 tinks bomb containers full around me) and I wasn't hanging that high (18 ft.) in the tree.... I had two does and yerling walk all over me for approx. 50 minutes.... I was in the wide open from there direction and a few times the does would look UP my way while feeding.... They never figured me out but they were smelling something that caused them to look up my way...
Using buck urine last year and had a buck (Very nice 10 pt.)come in the wrong direction behind me off the ridge..... He stop short and started stomping for several minutes... I finally tried to turn on him (sling rubbed stand) and he went about 60 yards into a thicket but stopped and turned bac into my direction to figure out what was going on....
I don't believe any of these deer and others detected human scent..... I do want to add that I go to the extreme (washing, clothes, boots, spraying, and changing clothes before hunt) to eliminate scent....
Trying to ascertain what an animal was and wasn't perceiving simply through observation doesn't produce an accurate picture.
The concept of a "cover scent"--a scent so strong that a deer can't smell the human underneath--simply doesn't hold water. That's not how the sense of smell works. However, we humans too often consider things from our own perspective. We have one of the worst senses of smell in the mammilian world, yet we use our perceptions of our own sense of smell--which is easily overpowered or fooled--and think other animals sense of smell works the same way. That just isn't the case.
How long have drug-smugglers been trying to fool the noses of drug-sniffing dogs, and failing, even when the drugs are enclosed in airtight containers burried in strong smelling stuff like coffee or gasoline? Deer easily have noses better than the best bloodhound, yet we think some skunk scent or cedar smell can fool their noses? A good bloodhound can follow an individual person's scent down a paved sidewalk used by hundreds of different people days after the event. Deer have better noses than that, and we think we can "cover" our scent? Nope.
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#2033647 - 08/17/10 08:07 AM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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I been reading all this stuff about cover scents and I'm not sure any of us have a clue what we are talking about... I once used coon urine as a cover scent (3 tinks bomb containers full around me) and I wasn't hanging that high (18 ft.) in the tree.... I had two does and yerling walk all over me for approx. 50 minutes.... I was in the wide open from there direction and a few times the does would look UP my way while feeding.... They never figured me out but they were smelling something that caused them to look up my way...
Using buck urine last year and had a buck (Very nice 10 pt.)come in the wrong direction behind me off the ridge..... He stop short and started stomping for several minutes... I finally tried to turn on him (sling rubbed stand) and he went about 60 yards into a thicket but stopped and turned bac into my direction to figure out what was going on....
I don't believe any of these deer and others detected human scent..... I do want to add that I go to the extreme (washing, clothes, boots, spraying, and changing clothes before hunt) to eliminate scent.... One good reason they might not have smelled you Gator is,if was in the morning,air tends to rise on the warming thermals,so it wouldnt matter what you smelled like,unless they were uphill,above you,in the direction the wind was blowing.
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#2033652 - 08/17/10 08:11 AM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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Football Hunter
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One cool thing to do,is get some of those wind floaters,when your in your stand,or on your back porch,let a few go.
When they go down wind watch em,sometimes they stay flat ,sometimes they go down,but SOMETIMES!!!! They go UP!This is how,I believe we at times end up thinking we fooled a deers nose,when thwy are down wind of us,also my favorite when hunting,unless deer start climbing trees to wind check.
Edited by Football Hunter (08/17/10 08:12 AM)
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#2033689 - 08/17/10 08:40 AM
Re: Deer Cover scents!
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gator-n-buck
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I been reading all this stuff about cover scents and I'm not sure any of us have a clue what we are talking about... I once used coon urine as a cover scent (3 tinks bomb containers full around me) and I wasn't hanging that high (18 ft.) in the tree.... I had two does and yerling walk all over me for approx. 50 minutes.... I was in the wide open from there direction and a few times the does would look UP my way while feeding.... They never figured me out but they were smelling something that caused them to look up my way...
Using buck urine last year and had a buck (Very nice 10 pt.)come in the wrong direction behind me off the ridge..... He stop short and started stomping for several minutes... I finally tried to turn on him (sling rubbed stand) and he went about 60 yards into a thicket but stopped and turned bac into my direction to figure out what was going on....
I don't believe any of these deer and others detected human scent..... I do want to add that I go to the extreme (washing, clothes, boots, spraying, and changing clothes before hunt) to eliminate scent.... Trying to ascertain what an animal was and wasn't perceiving simply through observation doesn't produce an accurate picture. The concept of a "cover scent"--a scent so strong that a deer can't smell the human underneath--simply doesn't hold water. That's not how the sense of smell works. However, we humans too often consider things from our own perspective. We have one of the worst senses of smell in the mammilian world, yet we use our perceptions of our own sense of smell--which is easily overpowered or fooled--and think other animals sense of smell works the same way. That just isn't the case. How long have drug-smugglers been trying to fool the noses of drug-sniffing dogs, and failing, even when the drugs are enclosed in airtight containers burried in strong smelling stuff like coffee or gasoline? Deer easily have noses better than the best bloodhound, yet we think some skunk scent or cedar smell can fool their noses? A good bloodhound can follow an individual person's scent down a paved sidewalk used by hundreds of different people days after the event. Deer have better noses than that, and we think we can "cover" our scent? Nope.
I agree.... I just think sometimes cover scents can throw them off a little... Even K-9s that are right on top of the objects they are checking have to work a little harder when cover scents are used.... I agree totally with you and grew up with hunting dogs..... Just wanted to throw a little debate out there....
P.S. I have personally had great luck with Dominant Buck Urine... I'm not sure how well it does as a cover scent but it seems to draw the bucks in through out deer season..... I have seen a lot more buck in the last several season since I stumbled across this stuff....
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