#2031383 - 08/15/10 03:40 PM
What is the %
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Good time Charlie
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What would be a good pecentage of
does that are not bred in a single season.
I suspect it will be very high from what I have seen.
And what would cause a doe to not be bred?
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#2031427 - 08/15/10 04:23 PM
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............And what would cause a doe to not be bred? A headache.   You must been married for a long time....LOL
Yup. 27 years.
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#2031428 - 08/15/10 04:24 PM
Re: What is the %
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What would be a good pecentage of
does that are not bred in a single season.
I suspect it will be very high from what I have seen.
And what would cause a doe to not be bred?
Not get bred? Very, very few. Not get pregnant? Maybe 5-10%.
The major lose of fawns occurs right after birth--within the first two weeks of life--when at least 50% die.
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#2031430 - 08/15/10 04:27 PM
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You learn something new everyday...Thanks BSK... I'm really surprised at those stats.
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#2031460 - 08/15/10 04:58 PM
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I think BSK may be a tad low. I assume he is counting only older does. When you figure in the older doe fawns that do not get bred, I believe the figure may be higher. However, as he said. bred doesn't mean pregnant or that they deliver fawns.
And I could be wrong. I can tell you close to 85% of the does behind my house had fawns.
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#2031472 - 08/15/10 05:07 PM
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Yes, I was only talking about adult does. Fawn sexual maturity varies by area.
But when conducting spring fetal counts, considering all adult does checked (does that were 1 1/2 years old during the rut) AVERAGE fetal counts often run 1.6 to 1.7 per doe, even including does that have zero fetuses (were not bred or did not conceive).
That means that if all the fetuses go full term, birth recruitment numbers should be 160-170% for does that are now 2 years old (in spring). The reason actual fall-season fawn recruitment rates may only be 50-100% (or potentially even lower) is a combination of female fawns not bred being recruited into the adult population and fawn mortality between birth in early summer and fall observation. Fawn mortality can occur from any number of causes, with predation and malnutrition being the leading ones. But fawn mortality is MUCH higher than most hunters realize.
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#2031476 - 08/15/10 05:10 PM
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10-4 That's what I figured. If I can find it, I'm going to post a picture of a buck fawn for you to age.
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#2031479 - 08/15/10 05:12 PM
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Good time Charlie
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Wow I would not have guessed that,thanks
I have been watching a doe with 2 and another with1
was wondering why all the other does had no fawns
I bet the farmers get a lot of them with machinery
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