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#2030606 - 08/14/10 08:11 PM Re: spikes [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: rtp
Yeah, some of the latest studies done in Texas have shown in a low fence free range environment that the spikes catch up to the forked brothers by the age of 4. The avg buck in south Texas will score 131 at age 4. To me that's a pretty nice deer in most people's book so I dont believe in shooting them. I have told anyone that hunts on my place if they shoot a spike that is 2.5 years old or older I will give them $100 bill. It hasnt happened yet. Now in a high fence situation it's a whole different story.


I was wondering is it a little tuff to find good public land in TX... I have heard a lot of guys in TN that wish TN had the same bucks/antlers that other states have... The one thing they don't consider is TN has a lot of good public land you can hunt... Never hunted in TX, so can you give a little input...
A lot,yes,good?Eye of the beholder,but some I like


Edited by Football Hunter (08/14/10 08:12 PM)
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#2030612 - 08/14/10 08:15 PM Re: spikes [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
I guarantee you if I had data for bucks from the Nashville Basin, the average scores would top South TX. But, as some will tell you, we don't grow good bucks in TN.
Gotta call you on that,so why the HUGE difference in B&C entries,not close HUGE!?
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#2030630 - 08/14/10 08:29 PM Re: spikes [Re: Football Hunter]
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You are kidding right football hunter?

Can you imagine the difference between the size of the land as well as access to them? Iwould imagine sheer kill numbers alone would do it. Not numbers of B/C bucks killed, JUST numbers of bucks killed.

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#2030635 - 08/14/10 08:32 PM Re: spikes [Re: 102]
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You are kidding right football hunter?

Can you imagine the difference between the size of the land as well as access to them? Iwould imagine sheer kill numbers alone would do it. Not numbers of B/C bucks killed, JUST numbers of bucks killed.

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Not kidding,if BSK is right ,then the Na basin would rival south tEXAS IN b&c SCORE,Or produce a few right?There is no comparison.
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#2030638 - 08/14/10 08:34 PM Re: spikes [Re: Football Hunter]
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Recently,I looked on the Tn deer registry,most were not from Na Basin,although I understand there are some good ones there,but to Rival STexas,show me.
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#2031141 - 08/15/10 10:45 AM Re: spikes [Re: rtp]
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 Originally Posted By: rtp
 Originally Posted By: Andy S.
 Originally Posted By: BSK
So whenever anyone tells you most bucks of a certain age in a given location go X to Y score with very few below X, and that "X to Y" range is only 10 to 20 inches, they are either full of it, or there is something seriously wrong with how they are collecting their data.


Exactly. I love it when people tell me "most deer on my property/ranch/lease score X at 3.5 or 4.5 etc..."

When I hear this, I know right then they either do not know what they are talking about or they are full of shat. \:\)


Im not sure what yall are saying here. Im a slow learner, so what do you mean? Are you referring to something I said?


No, not something you said at all. I was pointing out that too many hunters judge age by antler size, either conciously or subconciously. They know the antler score they expect from a certain age-class, so when they see that size antlers, that automatically assign the buck the age they expect will grow that size antlers. Anters size should be given very little consideration when field-judging age.
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#2031143 - 08/15/10 10:47 AM Re: spikes [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
I guarantee you if I had data for bucks from the Nashville Basin, the average scores would top South TX. But, as some will tell you, we don't grow good bucks in TN.
Gotta call you on that,so why the HUGE difference in B&C entries,not close HUGE!?


The shear number of mature bucks being produced in South TX high-fences. It is not uncommon to see age structures with 30+% mature bucks inside a high-fence. With so many more mature bucks, you are far more likely to produce the top-end of the bell-curve.

In addition, many of the best big buck areas of the Nashville Basin are not open to gun hunting. The best monster buck areas of the Nashville Basin are suburban areas. Suburbanites may allow some limited archery hunting, but will not allow gun hunting.
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