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#2025890 - 08/11/10 10:44 AM Anybody finding white oak Acorns?
Good time Charlie
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I am not having much luck here in east Tenn.I am finding some
others like Red, Chestnut ect.but not that many white oaks.

Which could be good for hunting,but this is 2 years in a row up here and I wonder about the health of the heard.
I have found some good persimmon trees which is my favorite
to hunt around.
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#2025897 - 08/11/10 10:47 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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I'm seeing what you are.
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#2025908 - 08/11/10 10:51 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Gray Ghost]
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Ours are loaded in Middle Tn.
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#2025914 - 08/11/10 10:52 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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Lower middle tn here and they are loaded.
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#2025919 - 08/11/10 10:55 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: ShaneHallum]
Carlos Viagra
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Most of ours have plenty of acorns. I ran into a TWRA employee @ Catoosa this week who was doing a survey on Oaks, checking the acorn count.
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#2025927 - 08/11/10 11:01 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Carlos Viagra]
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I could be mixed up here but I believe white oaks can/or will skip a year in acorn production where red oaks will produce every year. If this info is incorrect, please forgive me... but I believe that it is right.
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#2025930 - 08/11/10 11:03 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Carlos Viagra]
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Found some yesterday. I think as the month progresses you will start seeing more and more. Usually start dropping at end of Sept. so it may be a little early yet to see em well. If you haven't tried this, take some binocs. with you and look at the top of the trees for some.
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#2025939 - 08/11/10 11:06 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
I could be mixed up here but I believe white oaks can/or will skip a year in acorn production where red oaks will produce every year. If this info is incorrect, please forgive me... but I believe that it is right.


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#2025944 - 08/11/10 11:08 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: whistlinwingman]
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I believe its the Red Oaks that produce every other year...
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#2025953 - 08/11/10 11:14 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Carlos Viagra]
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I have seen half of a big white oak bear and the other half nothing,
Thomahawk it is the white oak,but they did not have any last year
I have been using 16x Binos,nothing in my white oaks

I kinda like hunting when the white oaks are sparse
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#2025955 - 08/11/10 11:15 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Carlos Viagra]
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Red oak acorns take two years to mature. White oak only one. Some individual trees will skip years, some produce every year.
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#2025957 - 08/11/10 11:17 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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 Originally Posted By: Darton man
I have seen half of a big white oak bear and the other half nothing,
Thomahawk it is the white oak,but they did not have any last year
I have been using 16x Binos,nothing in my white oaks

I kinda like hunting when the white oaks are sparse
Could see where that would be beneficial. Hard to pinpoint a location when acorns are dropping like rain in a large hardwood tract.

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#2025966 - 08/11/10 11:20 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Red oak acorns take two years to mature. White oak only one. Some individual trees will skip years, some produce every year.
OK. Knew it was something like that. For some reason I was thinking it was the white oaks that would skip but red it is... thanks for clarification. ;\)

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#2025970 - 08/11/10 11:21 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Tomahawk]
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I thought it was the white oaks to\:\)
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#2025997 - 08/11/10 11:41 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: whistlinwingman]
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 Originally Posted By: whistlinwingman
Found some yesterday. I think as the month progresses you will start seeing more and more. Usually start dropping at end of Sept. so it may be a little early yet to see em well. If you haven't tried this, take some binocs. with you and look at the top of the trees for some.


Ditto..i live in far east Tn. You can see them good with your binocs.

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#2026018 - 08/11/10 11:50 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BoneHead1]
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BSK is correct. Whites take one year to mature, reds take two. A given red oak tree can produce nuts every year - the two year old nuts will drop, but the immature one year old nuts will stay on the tree.

Acorn production in all species is affected by lots of things including insects, spring temps, rainfall, disease, past production.

If you are having trouble finding white oaks with nuts, try concentrating your search on the north-facing slopes. The ground holds more moisture which often equates to more nuts. I'm definitely seeing that pattern this year where I've been scouting.

Agree too that binocs are a must for seeing them this time of year.


Edited by Pursuit Hunter (08/11/10 11:52 AM)
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#2026021 - 08/11/10 11:52 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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Very interesting info.
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#2026050 - 08/11/10 12:14 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Looks to be a heavy acorn year everywhere I have been. Reds and Whites both appear to be in good shape. I saw some sawtooths yesterday which were absolutely loaded as well.
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#2026062 - 08/11/10 12:21 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Pursuit Hunter
Agree too that binocs are a must for seeing them this time of year.

And can be very hard to see even with binoculars!

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#2026063 - 08/11/10 12:22 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Setterman]
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Yea just went out and checked with my binos. and everything seems to have some acorns.Just now getting big enough to see them
I just read a little piece that said
Leonard LeeRueIII said he wears a size 11 ,and if he puts his foot down and does not cover 9 acorns,it was not a good year.

This is of course after all the nuts have fallen
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#2026095 - 08/11/10 12:35 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Reds and whites loaded in Southern Ky.Some are Actually falling now and they are small.Someone thought it was stress from heat causing them to drop early.I dont know.I do know i see more deer in years with a bad acorn crop.Seems they have to move more.
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#2026102 - 08/11/10 12:38 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Ours are loaded in Middle Tn.
You talking about Humphries?
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#2026124 - 08/11/10 12:48 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Football Hunter]
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rather have few if any trees with acorns.....

when they are all dropping, deer tend to scatter .....

makes my job just that much more difficult, but maybe that's what makes it more fun....lol
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#2026141 - 08/11/10 12:58 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
I could be mixed up here but I believe white oaks can/or will skip a year in acorn production where red oaks will produce every year. If this info is incorrect, please forgive me... but I believe that it is right.


You got it backwards bud....

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#2026146 - 08/11/10 01:03 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Ours are loaded in Middle Tn.
You talking about Humphries?


From Nashville west to KY Lake.

Everywhere I've looked they are loaded, especially near the Lake.
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#2026191 - 08/11/10 01:59 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: mrk80]
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 Originally Posted By: mrk80
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
I could be mixed up here but I believe white oaks can/or will skip a year in acorn production where red oaks will produce every year. If this info is incorrect, please forgive me... but I believe that it is right.


You got it backwards bud....
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#2026402 - 08/11/10 04:48 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Got a farm in Greene Co. and Rutherford Co. both are chalk full of em.
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#2026426 - 08/11/10 05:05 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: east10buck]
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from everything I've seen in Western KY, while showing land, its very spotted on White Oaks, Ballard, Christian, Livingston, Crittenden, Trigg and Logan Counties.
My personal tract in Stewart Co. ,TN not many over 700 acres
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#2026429 - 08/11/10 05:06 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
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Ours are loaded in Middle Tn.
You talking about Humphries?


From Nashville west to KY Lake.

Everywhere I've looked they are loaded, especially near the Lake.
Good for deer,for deer hunters?????
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#2026584 - 08/11/10 07:21 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Ours are loaded in Middle Tn.


I have been seeing a lot.
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#2026713 - 08/11/10 08:37 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Bone Collector]
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darton man, i'm in claiborne county too, i hunt land that borders cumberland gap natl park and our red oaks are loaded. i really haven't haven't looked too hard yet tho. they have been hitting the licks hard this summer, anxious to see results.
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#2026722 - 08/11/10 08:40 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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here in Middle Tn the whites are loaded and so are the chestnut oaks as well....not sure about the reds as i havent really looked hard since i determined we were heavy on these. hickory nuts are over loaded as well.
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#2026810 - 08/11/10 09:36 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Boone 58]
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my white oaks are loaded but they are about the size of a red oak acorn. I need some water on mine or they are going to be dry oak acorns
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#2026919 - 08/11/10 10:38 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: browtines]
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Adam are you hunting around LMU?
If so I know a guy that hunts it.
A guy seen 3 big 8s and a wide 10 in the yard with the yellow house next to Rigsbys bait and tackle
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#2027080 - 08/12/10 07:08 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Everywhere I've looked they are loaded, especially near the Lake.
Good for deer,for deer hunters?????


Good for deer, tough for hunters. Bumper acorn crops produce less deer movement, as deer don't have to go far to find food. Hunter harvest usually increases in a poor acorn year, as good food sources are more limited, forcing more deer travel to reach thse isolated food sources.
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#2027298 - 08/12/10 08:54 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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TRUE BSK,]
But my field notes reflect AWESOME rut activity associated with HUGE mast crops. Also, the rut tends to start a little earlier with big mast crop of Quercus Alba.

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#2027526 - 08/12/10 11:02 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: 102]
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TRUE BSK,
But my field notes reflect AWESOME rut activity associated with HUGE mast crops. Also, the rut tends to start a little earlier with big mast crop of Quercus Alba.

102


That's also true. In bumper acorn years, deer are healthier hence will enter estrus a little earlier than in a poor acorn year.

My rub research also found that bucks make more "sign," especially rubs, in a good acorn year (more excess energy to burn).
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#2027552 - 08/12/10 11:23 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Good for deer, tough for hunters. Bumper acorn crops produce less deer movement, as deer don't have to go far to find food.

And for hunters, it get's even worse than it appears.

Deer "digest" acorns very slowly compared to many other food items.

This means in a really good acorn year, deer may gorge themselves on acorns before dawn, stay in a bedding area all day "chewing their cud", and have no desire to seek something more to eat until darkness falls again.

So not only do deer not have to travel as much for food in a good acorn year, but they also don't seek food as much during daylight hours.

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#2027762 - 08/12/10 01:44 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Even worse Wes,
I've seen this MANY, MANY times. I'll have hunting buddies tell me of FANTASTIC deer sign complete with rubs, LOADS of droppings (all age classes-old fresh, in between-i.e. the deer were there a few days ago, yesterday, and a few hours ago), and BEDS with hair.

THey will hunt this spot and NEVER see a deer from their stand.

It is often still warm and DRY well before good chasing. ANd upon further questioning I will more often thatn not find out that these hunters actually have jumped deer while scouting.

What I feel is happening is that the hunters scent lingers in the area, thus pushing the deer over the next ridge where PLENTY of acorns exist.

In other words, PLENTY of food can cause spooky deer to simply "roll on over" to their next acorn flat where there is NO human intrusion.

My best hunting under these conditions has been to search my field notes from bumper crop acorn areas past and not to scout AT ALL. Just hunt FIRST, then scout later!

102


Edited by 102 (08/12/10 07:08 PM)
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#2027787 - 08/12/10 01:53 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: 102]
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 Originally Posted By: 102
What I feel is happening is that the hunters scent lingers in the area, thus pushing the deer over the next ridge where PLENTY of acorns exist.

In other words, PLENTY of food can cause spooky deer to simply "roll on over" to their next acorn flat where there is NO human intrusion.


Yup, seen that too.
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#2027802 - 08/12/10 01:58 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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That's most likely what's to blame the trouble I've had getting on deer for the past several seasons. Suckers lay around all day and stay within a very centralized location. They don't have to move unless disturbed. This is especially true once they become pressured.
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#2027931 - 08/12/10 03:12 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Carlos Viagra]
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 Originally Posted By: Carlos Viagra
Suckers lay around all day and stay within a very centralized location. They don't have to move unless disturbed.
Just the way I like 'em. Acorns + deer = poop. Find the poop, you find the deer. It isn't that hard if you put in the scouting time.
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#2028411 - 08/12/10 09:46 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Darton man

I sure wish I was hunting that area! There are some monsters!

I live within 3 miles of rigsbys but hunt a farm that's down on 63 a few miles from LMU. It doesn't border a big area in the park, pretty small, the biggest border is the tacket creek area on the other side of the mountain.

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#2028494 - 08/12/10 11:06 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Northern middle TN oaks seem to be loaded this year. Gonna be like walking on marbles soon,lol!
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#2028511 - 08/12/10 11:35 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Food Plot 101]
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#2028523 - 08/13/10 12:14 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Got a report from my hunting buddy in Hickman County near Primm
Springs. Whites and reds are loaded down. Also sent me some
trail pics of some very impressive bucks.

Looks to be a great year, if you can find the preferred trees. I
think most know what I'm talking about.

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#2028606 - 08/13/10 06:21 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: RKenney]
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Chaney has literally thousands of oak trees......if most are producing at the same time, deer movement stalls considerably.

I sat in a stand overlooking two oaks dropping one year and watched three does eat/bed down/eat/bed down...etc....all day long......they never left my sight all day.....

no other deer came to the trees either, which told me that these were not the only trees producing in the area....

plenty of acorns are great for herd health, but bad for hunting...IMO.
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#2028812 - 08/13/10 09:09 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Bottom Hunter]
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I like persimmons any way
Show me a persimmon grove and I will kill a deer that evening,
Might be a doe but evening s seems to be when they come to the persimmons
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#2028813 - 08/13/10 09:10 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Whites and reds here in Unicoi County are loaded...
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#2031182 - 08/15/10 12:09 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Out at my place in southwestern Humphreys County, a particularly violent storm swept through last Thursday. Many trees were uprooted and many tops ripped out. But that also gave me the opportunity to examine oak tops close up. Just about ever top I examined had some acorns--of every species--and many had a real acorn load. Whites Oaks, Post Oaks, Mountain Chestnut Oaks, Red Oaks and Black Oaks are all producing, with the Black Oaks particularly loaded.

Here's a picture of my brother-in-law's Sawtooth Oak in his backyard in suburban Nashville:

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#2031202 - 08/15/10 12:36 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: adamf5353]
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adamj5353, I live 4 miles down hwy 63, on Pearman Rd, behind Bobby Cycle shop.
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#2031287 - 08/15/10 01:43 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: encore06]
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The Whites that I have inspected in Sevier County are all very sparse. However, the reds, were just look at the pictures. These were taken yesterday.




And here, from the stand overlooking these three Red Oaks. It is an outside wooded corner.
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#2031994 - 08/15/10 10:03 PM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: plinker22]
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Hard to be certain plinker, but I believe the top photo is a black oak.
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#2032155 - 08/16/10 06:39 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Whites are covered up here in Lawrence and Wayne counties in middle Tn.
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#2032190 - 08/16/10 07:44 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Pursuit Hunter
Hard to be certain plinker, but I believe the top photo is a black oak.


Yup, black oak, which is in the red family. My blacks are loaded too.
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#2032310 - 08/16/10 09:34 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
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Hard to be certain plinker, but I believe the top photo is a black oak.


Yup, black oak, which is in the red family. My blacks are loaded too.
In the area where I hunted last year, the blacks had already dropped and the deer had moved on to chestnut oaks by the first week of deer season. Every year and every micro-environment is different, so that may not apply to you, but I'd keep an eye on 'em for early in the season.

I posted some pictures http://www.pursuithunting.com/2009/09/hot-and-nasty.html last year of a black oak dominant tree that was hotter than a firecracker two weeks before the season. There was a tremendous amount of fresh sign. Unfortunately the pattern had changed by the time the season opened. Any of you other old guys like me may remember the Black Oak Arkansas song that was the inspiration for the name "Hot and Nasty" I gave that spot. I included some vintage video just for the fun of it.
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#2032373 - 08/16/10 10:29 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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Same here Pursuit. The deer went after the chestnut oaks around opening week. Couldn't find that magic tree. But by the 2nd week of october there were three white oaks together that started dropping. After seeing several fresh piles of poop I relocated to 23 yards from them and killed a fat doe the first evening. These trees were GPS'd and hope they perform again.
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#2032408 - 08/16/10 11:05 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: whistlinwingman]
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 Originally Posted By: whistlinwingman
Same here Pursuit. The deer went after the chestnut oaks around opening week. Couldn't find that magic tree. But by the 2nd week of october there were three white oaks together that started dropping. After seeing several fresh piles of poop I relocated to 23 yards from them and killed a fat doe the first evening. These trees were GPS'd and hope they perform again.
I'm convinced that there is nothing a deer would rather eat than a white oak acorn (in general).
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#2032413 - 08/16/10 11:15 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Good time Charlie]
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I have a couple of whiteoaks over my field line and one down next to the pond that are always loaded. Noticed they are dropping yesterday when I mowed.
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#2032417 - 08/16/10 11:22 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Pursuit Hunter
 Originally Posted By: whistlinwingman
Same here Pursuit. The deer went after the chestnut oaks around opening week. Couldn't find that magic tree. But by the 2nd week of october there were three white oaks together that started dropping. After seeing several fresh piles of poop I relocated to 23 yards from them and killed a fat doe the first evening. These trees were GPS'd and hope they perform again.
I'm convinced that there is nothing a deer would rather eat than a white oak acorn (in general).


You think they like White Oak acorns, you should see how they respond to Swamp Chestnut Oak acorns! I would have to list that acorn as #1 preference. Of course, the Swamp Chestnut is in the white oak family (and not to be confused with the Mountain Chestnut Oak).
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#2032422 - 08/16/10 11:27 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: whistlinwingman
Same here Pursuit. The deer went after the chestnut oaks around opening week. Couldn't find that magic tree. But by the 2nd week of october there were three white oaks together that started dropping. After seeing several fresh piles of poop I relocated to 23 yards from them and killed a fat doe the first evening. These trees were GPS'd and hope they perform again.
I'm convinced that there is nothing a deer would rather eat than a white oak acorn (in general).
You think they like White Oak acorns, you should see how they respond to Swamp Chestnut Oak acorns! I would have to list that acorn as #1 preference. Of course, the Swamp Chestnut is in the white oak family (and not to be confused with the Mountain Chestnut Oak).
Agreed. I've only seen one of them though. The nuts were the size of golf balls and the deer killed them. Don't have access to that property any more.



Edited by Pursuit Hunter (08/16/10 11:27 AM)
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#2032444 - 08/16/10 11:42 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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Unfortunatey, few areas in TN (outside of the swampy slews of West TN) have many Swamp Chestnut Oaks.
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#2032466 - 08/16/10 11:57 AM Re: Anybody finding white oak Acorns? [Re: BSK]
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I will agree on the White oak family being king for the deer. They have helped me put a lot of arrows through my intended targets over the years thats for sure! There isnt a better place in the woods than under the White oak that they have chosen at that particular time to feed on, simply the best bow hunting, at completely relaxed, pre occupied, and stationary deer, that you can find! I have literally shot deer and wether they run off or just take a couple jumps and fall over, other deer there simply watch them and go back to feeding. Then 'thump' on the next one!
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