#2024692 - 08/10/10 03:07 PM
Re: Which counties have the highest # of 150+ Bucks?
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So....wonder what the typical,world record would be by gross score,and also why B&C went with the rules that are in place now,got to admit they have high standards,170 is minimum for their book?WOW,thats a really,really big buck. The Hanson buck grossed 216 and some change. Not sure if you have ever seen him in person but he is very spindly as far as mass goes. He is the World Record for simply because he only had 3 inches of deductions. Don't get me wrong, he is impressive but when it is next to a buck that had a gross typical score of over 230 inches (30 inches in deductions, 200 net) you have to scratch your head. I believe it's a flawed system that will never be changed. Buckmasters could have really been onto something but they had to leave out the inside spread? You're kidding...
imo....The BC system is set on a minimum score in relation to a set (geneticly typical to the species) standard,... somewhat like a like a dog show.... over all size is not the main (#1) objective...how the rack is configured within the preset sets of the standards are the #1 defineing guidelines to the BC....differant scoring systems have differant objectives...most all hunters want over all size as the main objective...and theres nothing wrong with that...but it takes a differant routes to obtain differant objectives...
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#2024797 - 08/10/10 04:12 PM
Re: Which counties have the highest # of 150+ Bucks?
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Ding ding we have a winner. I have said the same for years and we have even discussed it here in the past. Displacement would be the true measure of size for a set of antlers, why it hasnt been put into effect somehow is beyond me?? 100% agree with you Winchester in that liquid displacement would be the truest measure of antler size. However there are two importantant factors that are preventing this from happening... 1. Technology - A standardized contraption to accurately measure the volume displacement of the antlers. Keep in mind, to fully submerse each antler they would need to be detached from the skull so they could be measured sperately. I don't think many hunters will want their deer's skull cracked in half for the purpose of finding their true volume. 2. Tradition - Folks know, love, and are accustomed to terms like "that is a 160-inch buck". I somehow don't see the new age hunting shows going after a 1.6 gallon 4-1/2 year old non-typical. Unless of course it was bow hunting show where they were going after the standard P&Y class deer that is only 3.8 quarts. 
Here is a "what-if".
How about a computer program that would make a digital model of a set of antlers and use it to determine the cubic inch displacement of the antlers and the size in cubic inches of box it would take to contain the antlers as they are naturally placed on the animal?
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#2025596 - 08/11/10 07:29 AM
Re: Which counties have the highest # of 150+ Bucks?
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If you want to kill deer, hunt where you can hunt and SCOUT the most frequently with the highest number of deer per square mile.
If that happens to be a top 10 B/C producing County like Montgomery or Williamson GREAT. But I'll take my chances at killing a BIG, Mature buck in the areas I know like the buck knows.
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#2025637 - 08/11/10 08:11 AM
Re: Which counties have the highest # of 150+ Bucks?
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Most would be shocked to know that two of the very best counties in the southeast for killing 150"+ bucks is also very mountainous. Jackson and Madison counties in Alabama. Although not more well known, Dekalb is right there with them but folks seem to be more secretive over there about their kills. The taxidermist I used to use was in Dekalb, Co and it was evident they had their share of really big bucks and it's almost all mountain land although they do sit on one rather large plateau.
That being said, I'm surprised more east TN counties with river bottom land (agriculture) isn't more well known. Possibly the lower densities is the reason. Just not as many bucks total running around over there compared to some of the middle TN counties.
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#2025687 - 08/11/10 08:40 AM
Re: Which counties have the highest # of 150+ Bucks?
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Seems to me you could take the antlers, both still attached to the plate, and submerge the total set. Then , inside spread could be measured if it's an issue. It would be nice if a formula was worked out where the fluid displaced would be comparable to other methods of scoring. Ounces compared to inches. Of course, on mounts already done, it would be tough. The displacement method would work on all species. Something to think about.
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But then I say that about all those 100-120-class 2 1/2-yr-old bucks I see hitting the ground all around me each fall. 
