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#2006434 - 07/25/10 11:25 AM When to hang
cecil30-30
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I have 2 new hang on stands I need to hang in spots that have never had a stand before..I waas planning on going to hang them on the weekend of Aug7th which is 2 weeks away,think that will give the deers ample time to get used to it? I'll have plenty of cover and background to break up my outline for 1 stand but the other im wanting to put in a small field,right in the middle of it..

The field is probably 50 yds wide by 100yds long,and there is just a handful of tree in it that are probably 10 to 15ft apart and only 1 tree is suitable for a stand,I used my climber last year out of it and had deer at 20 yds or less several times,my only concern is no background cover to break my outline up,i'd be silhouetted,but the deer didn't seem to notice me in my big ole summit titan up there last year,was thinking of putting a hang on stand there this year..what you think? Should I put my hang on somewhere else and just keep useing my climber there or go ahead and put it there?
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#2006446 - 07/25/10 11:37 AM Re: When to hang [Re: cecil30-30]
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If they didn't spot your climber they shouldn't spot your lock on.If you can't shoot behind you then add some more limbs for cover if you feel too open in the stand.

Edited by RAFI (07/25/10 11:38 AM)

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#2006457 - 07/25/10 11:47 AM Re: When to hang [Re: RAFI]
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They ain't gonna see it.hand it about 30-35 feet and use screw in steps and they will never know its there. I am conviced deer are about blind.
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#2006458 - 07/25/10 11:47 AM Re: When to hang [Re: RAFI]
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if you not worried about theives then go ahead and hang them. but I would try to get in and out just before a good rain.
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#2006459 - 07/25/10 11:47 AM Re: When to hang [Re: RAFI]
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I hung my stands last weekend, that being said any time up until season is usually fine. They are pretty forgiving this early on.
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#2006461 - 07/25/10 11:49 AM Re: When to hang [Re: RAFI]
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What RAFI said...
I use conduit clamps to add foliage around my stands for background cover.
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#2006470 - 07/25/10 12:05 PM Re: When to hang [Re: Rowdy]
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I personally don't subscribe to the theory that stands should be in place well before season starts. Most people move stands around a lot during season anyway. I put mine in weeks or even days before because of trespassers and thieves. I think it's more important that you've already done your homework before season so that you know where to put the stand.
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#2006496 - 07/25/10 01:00 PM Re: When to hang [Re: RAFI]
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
If they didn't spot your climber they shouldn't spot your lock on.If you can't shoot behind you then add some more limbs for cover if you feel too open in the stand.
I agree,but,the sooner the better.
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#2006513 - 07/25/10 01:43 PM Re: When to hang [Re: Football Hunter]
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If thieves are an issue, there is another step you can take that is a little more trouble, but worth the effort. You can go in right now and hang your stand and do any necessary trimming for shooting lanes. You will find one of the pruning poles ($25-35) at Lowes or Home Depot to be some of the best money you will spend to simplify the job. I've been using one for the past ten years and consider it a "must have" now for hanging stands.

Once you get things cut out, you can take your stand down until right before you start to hunt. If you are using tree steps you can usually leave the ones up high in the tree and be pretty safe from thieves. By cutting stuff now it gives the deer an opportunity to get used to the changes. It is a pretty simple matter to re-set your stand once you have set it the first time and cleared the shooting lanes.

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#2006530 - 07/25/10 01:52 PM Re: When to hang [Re: scn]
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You may want to invest in a camo wrap so the deer won't detect your movement as much.
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#2006550 - 07/25/10 02:16 PM Re: When to hang [Re: DUCK37101]
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If its wide open. Tie some old artificial christmas tree limbs in the tree around where your stand is. They never loose their leaves and you can position them to camo your stand pretty well.
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#2006623 - 07/25/10 04:04 PM Re: When to hang [Re: fishboy1]
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scn hit the nail on the head. I prefer to have my standsites ready to go before I ever hunt those locations. Another factor to consider is that deer are seasonal in their locations or travels. An area that may be hot as a firecracker during the rut may not be worth hunting during early archery and visa versa and when acorns are dropping one early area may not be equal to another. I'd opt to have the standsite ready to hunt but on hold to see what the deer are doing and where they're moving before committing to a hunt in that particular location.
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#2006642 - 07/25/10 04:44 PM Re: When to hang [Re: Mike Belt]
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Thanks for the info guys,Im gonna go ahead and wait 2 weeks to hang them,thats when my cams are due to be check again anyway..Thieves aren't a problem where im hunting,"knock on wood"!!!!!
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#2006752 - 07/25/10 07:14 PM Re: When to hang [Re: cecil30-30]
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I plan on hanging mine this weekend.
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#2006759 - 07/25/10 07:27 PM Re: When to hang [Re: cecil30-30]
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i hang every time i hunt with a climber. i have a couple stands in food plots but prefer getting up high with a climber every time.
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#2008047 - 07/26/10 08:51 PM Re: When to hang [Re: DUCK37101]
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What BG 84 said.
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#2008101 - 07/26/10 09:45 PM Re: When to hang [Re: Boone 58]
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I think deer are alot more tolerant than we think. Yeah, I hang stands and only go in there 3 times per year max (in some locations). But as far as hanging a stand and not hunting them for a couple of months, I dont see a problem. I try my best to hang them as early as possible, but like this past weekend, you could literally walk outside and start sweating....you dont wanna get over-heated.

I hung 2 this past weekend, but have to hang 4 more....not to mention ALL the ladder stands and box stands we have. This logging is having us move them around alot. I am going to do 1 or 2 here and there, but I cant wait till it starts to get cooler.

The earlier the better, but you gotta do it within your means.
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#2008301 - 07/27/10 06:28 AM Re: When to hang [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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many times I have killed deer the day I hang a stand or the first time that I hunt it....

The best thing, IMO, is to limit your non-hunting time in that area.
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#2008407 - 07/27/10 08:50 AM Re: When to hang [Re: redcorn]
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 Originally Posted By: redcorn
I personally don't subscribe to the theory that stands should be in place well before season starts. Most people move stands around a lot during season anyway. I put mine in weeks or even days before because of trespassers and thieves. I think it's more important that you've already done your homework before season so that you know where to put the stand.


I subscribe to this stragegy as well, and for the same reasons.
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#2008409 - 07/27/10 08:53 AM Re: When to hang [Re: Mike Belt]
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Excellent advice Mike. ;\)
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#2010476 - 07/28/10 10:49 PM Re: When to hang [Re: MUP]
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I hate to sound like a geek, but I do all my initial stand hanging and pruning between February and May. I make quick rounds towards the end of the summer (preferably on a rainy day) to do final pruning for new growth. After reading all of your posts, I have a question: Why are you all waiting until now to hang your stands?

I mean, sure you can probably get away with this if you are hunting restricted access/ private property/ non pressured deer, but why risk tipping off a mature buck this late in the game?

In the pressured areas I hunt, I often see setups where hunters come in one month to a day or two before the season and cut massive shooting lanes and virtually all of the vegetation around their stands. If you did this back in the winter, you could get away with it. Late in the summer/ early Fall, you are leaving your declaration of intent for all deer who coming into their 2nd hunting season and older to see.

So my question is this: Assuming you knew you were going to be hunting these properties this Fall, why didn't you hang, rearrange and prune your stand months ago when the deer were still in their Winter patterns and your movement, scent and pruning would have no possible affect on the hunting season?

It is not my intent to be condescending in anyway. I am merely curious why some, perhaps many or most hunters choose this tactic.
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#2010498 - 07/28/10 11:12 PM Re: When to hang [Re: Poser]
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It would be a gamble for me to hang stands or trim areas that early. I don't know which trees will produce acorns and be preferred when season starts. A place that was hot last fall might be barren this fall. The landscape changes quickly and deer adapt and change movement patterns.
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#2010507 - 07/28/10 11:38 PM Re: When to hang [Re: redcorn]
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Redcorn,

I trim and prep all potential setups, but only use them as needed in any given season. Therefore, a setup over a grove of oaks not producing mast this year, won't get hunted until it does produce. Nevertheless, I prune it in the early Spring so that its ready when needed.

As for the Fall movements, your scouting from the previous Winter should tell you 90% of what you need to know. Acorns aside, how would hanging stands based on summer patterns in in July or August possibly anticipate Fall movements?
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#2010819 - 07/29/10 10:06 AM Re: When to hang [Re: Poser]
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Poser,

I should have typed late summer of early fall, as I was referring to early season. I think you make a good point that scouting from the previous winter will give insight for next season's fall/winter patterns. However, I think this is more true for properties that receive predictable amounts of pressure year to year.

Where I hunt, deer may alter their travel patterns weekly or even daily based on the amount of external pressure they perceive, whether this pressure comes from hunters, coyotes, dogs, etc. I have had to dismiss many pre-planned stand locations because of this influence.

I think preparing potential setups is a good idea though, especially if you know through experience those locations most likely to be productive.

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#2010859 - 07/29/10 10:41 AM Re: When to hang [Re: redcorn]
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Point taken, Redcorn.

I am still wondering if the average hunter/typical hunter/most hunters are simply not taking advantage of the most productive and important off season period: immediate post season through the Spring.

The scouting and work you do during this time frame, in my opinion, will have the most direct effect on the outcome of your hunting season and is perhaps the single most important tactic of the entire year (with the exception of actually hunting).

We can talk about food plots all day long, philosophize about funnels, stand arrival time, all day sits, but if you don't understand the way the subtleties of the way the deer are using the terrain during hunting season, it's all relying on luck.
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#2011324 - 07/29/10 08:19 PM Re: When to hang [Re: Poser]
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The only way to be consistently successful is to hunt where there is fresh deer sign. I wouldn't do anthing now. When the season gets here go check for fresh sign. If it's there, hunt it with your climber. If the sign isn't there, move on - you won't have wasted time hanging a stand in a poor location. Just the way I'd do it.
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#2011801 - 07/30/10 10:47 AM Re: When to hang [Re: Poser]
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Point taken, Redcorn.

I am still wondering if the average hunter/typical hunter/most hunters are simply not taking advantage of the most productive and important off season period: immediate post season through the Spring.

The scouting and work you do during this time frame, in my opinion, will have the most direct effect on the outcome of your hunting season and is perhaps the single most important tactic of the entire year (with the exception of actually hunting).

We can talk about food plots all day long, philosophize about funnels, stand arrival time, all day sits, but if you don't understand the way the subtleties of the way the deer are using the terrain during hunting season, it's all relying on luck.



I do most of this during turkey season. So far, all the scouting I have seen during this time relates to late, late season patterns. But like Redcorn said, the deer on the properties I hunt change too much. Deer do one thing in late Sept. and by mid-october they are on a totally different pattern. By the first on November it is different and full pre-rut. The Rut speaks for itself. I think you are dead-on on your point though. It just isn't relative for my hunting grounds. I wish it were, cause the way I turkey hunt it gets awful boring so I do alot of deer scouting.
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#2011805 - 07/30/10 10:51 AM Re: When to hang [Re: whistlinwingman]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
Point taken, Redcorn.

I am still wondering if the average hunter/typical hunter/most hunters are simply not taking advantage of the most productive and important off season period: immediate post season through the Spring.

The scouting and work you do during this time frame, in my opinion, will have the most direct effect on the outcome of your hunting season and is perhaps the single most important tactic of the entire year (with the exception of actually hunting).

We can talk about food plots all day long, philosophize about funnels, stand arrival time, all day sits, but if you don't understand the way the subtleties of the way the deer are using the terrain during hunting season, it's all relying on luck.



I do most of this during turkey season. So far, all the scouting I have seen during this time relates to late, late season patterns. But like Redcorn said, the deer on the properties I hunt change too much. Deer do one thing in late Sept. and by mid-october they are on a totally different pattern. By the first on November it is different and full pre-rut. The Rut speaks for itself. I think you are dead-on on your point though. It just isn't relative for my hunting grounds. I wish it were, cause the way I turkey hunt it gets awful boring so I do alot of deer scouting.


Thats what I do while turkey hunting...if I was doing it for the birds I wouldn't be using my bow!! \:D




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#2011851 - 07/30/10 12:02 PM Re: When to hang [Re: tndrbstr]
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Turkey season is the same for me. I focus on the birds full on until the action breaks in the mid morning. I typically spend the rest of the day runnin and gunnin and scouting for deer while I'm at it. Some of my best, out of the way, deep woods set ups have come from turkey season. I found the biggest primary scrape area I've ever seen while crawling through a thicket after a midday gobbler.

I marked this spot on my GPS and paid it another visit after turkey season to prune and cut shooting lanes. Even though this area of public land gets extreme pressure, the closest evidence of a tree stand I found was at least a quarter mile away. It may be the single best setup I have on public land, though I never would have found it if it weren't for turkey hunting, which, by the way, was unsuccessful this past season, but will pay off this Fall!
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