#2005162 - 07/23/10 08:25 PM
Re: Now I have a Different view
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mathews338
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yes it was but i don't understand. you guys are saying that the soil is the only difference, but the comparison was about 4 counties with VERY similar soil, 2 in KY and 2 in TN. so if they are so similar, then what is the difference?
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#2005639 - 07/24/10 01:18 PM
Re: Now I have a Different view
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yes it was but i don't understand. you guys are saying that the soil is the only difference, but the comparison was about 4 counties with VERY similar soil, 2 in KY and 2 in TN. so if they are so similar, then what is the difference?
Who is saying soils are the only difference? There are many differences, from agricultural use of the landscape to soil type/quality to all sorts of factors, including buck age structure. But the point is, TN hunters kill MORE mature bucks than KY hunters do, yet those TN mature bucks are not filling the recordbooks. Why? Differences in food resource volume and quality. When comparing two different locations, antler development is MORE a matter of NUTRITION than age. AGE is more important than nutrition only when comparing deer in the same location--where they all have about the same level of nutrition.
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#2005861 - 07/24/10 05:56 PM
Re: Now I have a Different view
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Why cant everyone be happy to even be able to hunt?? I Tennessee went to 1 buck limit the results would be the same.The same people would fine some more excuses to complain about instead of ammiting that they probally are that great of hunters...I know for a fact their are some BIG deer here in Tennessee.I have seen them..I have seen deer that would probally go into the record books time and time again..But most of the good hunters dont care about records...They just like the thrill of the hunt...I have also noticed that the same people kill big bucks year in and year out...Dont never hear them complain...they are just hunters...not every one can be a good hunter...just like not everyone can be a good football,basketball,baseball player...Thats all this debate comes down to making excuses why they cant kill big bucks...but people in other states do...We will never be Kentucky...and Kentucky will never be tennessee....SO PLEASE GET OVER IT>>>>thats whats runing hunting.
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#2006003 - 07/24/10 08:48 PM
Re: Now I have a Different view
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So the reason more B&C entries come from 2 KY counties that border 2 TN counties is because of glacial soils and more acres of agriculture?
Interesting opinions.
Talked to one of our soil scientists a while back (who is also an avid deer hunter). He mapped the soils on LBL and said they are some of the poorest in the region. However, LBL has one of the highest concentrations of B&C entries in TN. Just something to think about...
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#2006006 - 07/24/10 08:54 PM
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So the reason more B&C entries come from 2 KY counties that border 2 TN counties is because of glacial soils and more acres of agriculture?
Interesting opinions.
Talked to one of our soil scientists a while back (who is also an avid deer hunter). He mapped the soils on LBL and said they are some of the poorest in the region. However, LBL has one of the highest concentrations of B&C entries in TN. Just something to think about...
LBL has a ton of ag fields also.more there than anywhere else I hunt.I can't see all that low land soil being all that bad compared to the clay we have in a lot of the state.
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#2006070 - 07/24/10 09:28 PM
Re: Now I have a Different view
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RAFI, I'm just providing the facts. Our agency mapped the soils on LBL (as well as everywhere else in the U.S.). I have no reason to think our soil scientists would make flase claims. On a side note, I walked a lot of those ag fields on LBL this past turkey season. Next time you hunt there, see how many chert fragments you find in those crop fields. I can't imagine how many disc blades have been broken over the years. 
If you have your maps that prove these other maps wrong then post them up.
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#2006076 - 07/24/10 09:33 PM
Re: Now I have a Different view
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not saying LBL has the best soil in Tn but thier ag production is better than most places I hunt.i think thier soil on average is better than most places in Tn.
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#2006134 - 07/24/10 10:36 PM
Re: Now I have a Different view
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RAFI, I'm just providing the facts. Our agency mapped the soils on LBL (as well as everywhere else in the U.S.). I have no reason to think our soil scientists would make flase claims. On a side note, I walked a lot of those ag fields on LBL this past turkey season. Next time you hunt there, see how many chert fragments you find in those crop fields. I can't imagine how many disc blades have been broken over the years. If you have your maps that prove these other maps wrong then post them up.
Read the bottom left corner of the map where it says "NRCS." That is our map.
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