#2000846 - 07/20/10 01:19 PM
Re: Undisturbed pockets?
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I'm a huge proponent of creating and protecting official sanctuaries on a given piece of hunting land. Deer need locations--even fairly small ones--where they know they can escape hunting pressure.
However, I'm also a HUGE believer in locating and hunting "de facto" sanctuaries--sanctuaries that naturally occur because of hunter preference. These de facto sanctuaries are simply places no one has been hunting for whatever reason. I've said it before and I'll say it again, in fairly heavily hunted areas, locating and hunting de facto sanctuaries is one of THE MOST IMPORTANT TECHNIQUES FOR CONSISTENTLY SEEING AND KILLING MATURE BUCKS.
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#2000855 - 07/20/10 01:25 PM
Re: Undisturbed pockets?
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BSK,
Never have I heard that before.. de facto...huh. Kind of like virgin ground?
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#2000858 - 07/20/10 01:29 PM
Re: Undisturbed pockets?
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"De facto" is Latin for "in fact." A "de facto" sanctuary is an area that has become a sanctuary even though no one ever designated it as such. It has become a sanctuary simply because no one hunts there, and the deer have picked up on that fact and gravitate to it when hunters invade the woods.
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#2000865 - 07/20/10 01:32 PM
Re: Undisturbed pockets?
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Got it...my Latin sucks....so the back forty of my grandpa's farm that we haven't hunt in 10 years would be like this? De facto sanctuary.
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#2000890 - 07/20/10 01:50 PM
Re: Undisturbed pockets?
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Got it...my Latin sucks....so the back forty of my grandpa's farm that we haven't hunt in 10 years would be like this? De facto sanctuary.
Yup.
A long-term research project I worked on was all about locating de facto sanctuaries, and then once located, measuring the results hunters had hunting in the de facto sanctuaries compared to areas outside these sanctuaries. It was an eye-opening experience to say the least.
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#2000933 - 07/20/10 02:46 PM
Re: Undisturbed pockets?
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Got it...my Latin sucks....so the back forty of my grandpa's farm that we haven't hunt in 10 years would be like this? De facto sanctuary. Yup. A long-term research project I worked on was all about locating de facto sanctuaries, and then once located, measuring the results hunters had hunting in the de facto sanctuaries compared to areas outside these sanctuaries. It was an eye-opening experience to say the least.
A partial piece of some adjoining property I purchased a while back has about a 5 acre section on a steep hillside that nobody was hunting. I hunted the property along with another family prior to purchasing it and know that they weren't hunting it either. Once I owned it and got to pushing my way through overgrown logging roads one day I found bedding areas all over it and quite a few sheds much to my surprise. Don't let anybody hunt it now either.
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#2001013 - 07/20/10 04:22 PM
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I guess I need to make a trip to North Georgia and check Grandpa's old farm and the back forty. Like I said no one has hunted that property in 10 years. I might get lucky...
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#2001024 - 07/20/10 04:28 PM
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I guess I need to make a trip to North Georgia and check Grandpa's old farm and the back forty. Like I said no one has hunted that property in 10 years. I might get lucky...
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#2001244 - 07/20/10 08:07 PM
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We purposeful set these aside as sanctuaries. We never hunt in them but certainly hunt around the edges of them.
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#2001741 - 07/21/10 08:23 AM
Re: Undisturbed pockets?
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We purposeful set these aside as sanctuaries. We never hunt in them but certainly hunt around the edges of them.
What I am working towards,lots of saw work
That's why I'm letting a logger pay me for the priviledge of sawing away!
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