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#1998057 - 07/18/10 06:50 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: RKenney]
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Aging deer has never been my strong point but to me if it has a big rack like 165 well its mature to me...Let's be honest, a field full of bucks well the biggest rack is getting shot... ;\)
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#1998064 - 07/18/10 07:00 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: Double-D-Team]
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size DOES matter....lol

165, of course.
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#1998067 - 07/18/10 07:08 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: ghosthunter]
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Depends on which one gives me the first, best shot.
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#1998068 - 07/18/10 07:10 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: EastTNHunter]
LUNGBLOOD
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Could care less about the age. Biggest gets the bullet.
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#1998094 - 07/18/10 07:49 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: RKenney]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: RKenney
If you had a choice of killing a 6.5 year old 110" buck in
Tennessee or killing a let's say, a 165" 3.5 year old buck, which
one would you pick. Be honest now!

Being totally honest.
My choice would TOTALLY depend on the circumstances,
including whether pre-rut or post-rut in many of those.

If I were hunting on either public land or private land where I believed that 165" 3.5 had a fair chance of surviving until the next season, I would ENJOY passing him, (although I admit this decision would also be based on whether I'd be able to come back next year.) Just imagine how you would farther enjoy looking forward to even the possibility of seeing that buck again at 4 1/2. And, honestly, any mature buck should be considered a greater hunting challenge than a 3.5 immature one, no matter what the differences in antlers.

Now if I saw both those bucks on President's Island, my luck is both would be 8-pointers, and I'd be passing on both. But in a limited hunting opportunity such as PI, I'd probably be taking whichever one gave me the first and best shooting opportunity. Totality of circumstances dictates my choice, which is generally to pass on all bucks I believe to be 3 1/2 or younger.

Otherwise, the choice for me would be more a question of the circumstances, and given many of the places I hunt, I'd be more likely to pass on that 165" 3 1/2 LATE in the season (post-rut, greater chance for him to survive until next year), than EARLY in the season (pre-rut, less chance for him to survive).

But the choice given as stated, that would be a tough choice for me in most real "field" circumstances, as it's often hard to distinguish a 3 1/2 (one I personally want to pass) from a 4 1/2 (one I generally would consider a "shooter").

A more common choice I've actually made many times
has been in passing up a larger-antlered younger buck in favor of a smaller antlered older buck. As more hunters see the advantages of doing this, we may all have yet more to look forward, along with, a lot more larger antlers.

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#1998097 - 07/18/10 07:52 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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a lot of people would shoot both
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#1998100 - 07/18/10 07:55 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: ghosthunter]
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165 no doubt
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#1998107 - 07/18/10 08:02 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: RKenney]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: RKenney
A 160"+ buck at 3.5 in Tennessee, might not be as far fetched as
you might think. And no, it doesn't have to be on selected land.

I totally agree, as I regularly see them, and many are in fact seen on public hunting areas. The problem is, I'm seeing most of them dead, when they're a 120-plus-class 2 1/2, that was killed a year or two before they became a relatively HUGE antlered buck.

When a buck sports a 140-plus rack as a 3 1/2, just what do you think he had as a 2 1/2 ???

IMO, the biggest reason we're not seeing a lot more 140-class bucks in TN has little to do with soil, and nearly everything to do with us collectively as hunters mainly being so focused on antler scores that we rarely allow a top-end 2 1/2 to survive (at least in most areas being hunted).

When we shift more of our focus to AGE over antlers,
there will be an amazing increase in larger antlered older bucks.
In the meantime, it is mostly the smaller-than-average-antlered younger bucks that are surviving to 3 1/2 or older in Tennessee.

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#1998111 - 07/18/10 08:10 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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165
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#1998137 - 07/18/10 08:38 AM Re: Honest choice? [Re: TheAirMan]
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The 165 3 1/2 year-old buck.
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