#1989168 - 07/11/10 07:11 AM
Re: Broad head question
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Bottom Hunter
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four blade 90 grain muzzy for me....been using them for years.....
I had some trouble out og them many years ago but got that worked out.
What was happening was the tips would come unscrewed while still in the quiver and i still believe to this day that it costed me my best deer ever.....I guess that the vibration from the wheeler would get the tips loose and they would just unscrew themselves somehow. I should have always checked them before using them, but I never thought about it until I had two tips come off in the quiver...I began putting a touch of glue on the inside of the tips.
I really like their performance. Complete pass thru most every time.....
never shot an expandable.......
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#1989285 - 07/11/10 10:49 AM
Re: Broad head question
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I just do not like a Mechanical broadhead,to much can go wrong,Murphys law raises its head enough when you are bowhunting.This is just my opinion,But every time I see a young hunter showing off his quiver of Mechanical Broadheads,I cringe
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#1989297 - 07/11/10 11:21 AM
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muddyboots
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I hated mechanical broadheads and used muzzy for years. Two years ago a buddy switched to rage and i was seeing what they were doing to the deer he shot. I tried some last year and ain my 25 years bowhunting i have never seen anything perform like them. I am a converted rage fan.
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#1989299 - 07/11/10 11:27 AM
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Wes Parrish
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What can really go wrong?Its a pretty simple design.The blades are pushed backwards.I think people worry to much. 
Having been an avid bowhunter for over 20 years, and never having a "Murphy's Law" issue with the Muzzys I had used for most of that time, I decided to give a very popular mechanical a try. I test shot them, and was impressed in getting a little tighter group than with my Muzzys. Adjusted my sights a tad, loaded my quiver with them, then was eager to drop a fat doe on the Archery Opener.
It was one of the best opening days (weather wise) I'd experienced. Right before legal shooting time, I nocked an arrow, and waited diligently on the breaking dawn. It was getting light, and I heard deer walking towards me.
I removed my bow from its holder, and got in position to face the approaching deer. That's when I noticed something hanging from the broadhead. One of the retracted blades was simply hanging down! I quickly put that arrow back in the quiver, and replaced it with another. But worse, two of those blades were sticking out! Something was bad wrong with all my broadheads!
Upon closer examination, I discovered the tiny screws holding the blades had come loose on most of my mechanical heads. I think this happened from nothing more than my bow being vibrated by riding in the truck. The blades were still being held by the rubber band, but were otherwise totally loose. I then discovered that five of my seven arrows had one or more blades missing (or unscrewed).
And here I sat, high in a tree stand, on one of the most promising archery openers ever.
Not to mention, all those deer got by me before I could find an arrow that looked shootable.
I left the stand at 8am that morning, vowing to never try another mechanical head. Went back to my Muzzys. That was about 10 years ago.
This past year, upon the advise of some very accomplished bowhunters who had been longterm happy with the Spitfire mechanicals, I gave them a try. Had no problems with the Spitfires, but I'll refrain from recommending any mechanical to anyone.
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#1989325 - 07/11/10 12:10 PM
Re: Broad head question
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RAFI
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What can really go wrong?Its a pretty simple design.The blades are pushed backwards.I think people worry to much. Having been an avid bowhunter for over 20 years, and never having a "Murphy's Law" issue with the Muzzys I had used for most of that time, I decided to give a very popular mechanical a try. I test shot them, and was impressed in getting a little tighter group than with my Muzzys. Adjusted my sights a tad, loaded my quiver with them, then was eager to drop a fat doe on the Archery Opener. It was one of the best opening days (weather wise) I'd experienced. Right before legal shooting time, I nocked an arrow, and waited diligently on the breaking dawn. It was getting light, and I heard deer walking towards me. I removed my bow from its holder, and got in position to face the approaching deer. That's when I noticed something hanging from the broadhead. One of the retracted blades was simply hanging down! I quickly put that arrow back in the quiver, and replaced it with another. But worse, two of those blades were sticking out! Something was bad wrong with all my broadheads! Upon closer examination, I discovered the tiny screws holding the blades had come loose on most of my mechanical heads. I think this happened from nothing more than my bow being vibrated by riding in the truck. The blades were still being held by the rubber band, but were otherwise totally loose. I then discovered that five of my seven arrows had one or more blades missing (or unscrewed). And here I sat, high in a tree stand, on one of the most promising archery openers ever. Not to mention, all those deer got by me before I could find an arrow that looked shootable. I left the stand at 8am that morning, vowing to never try another mechanical head. Went back to my Muzzys. That was about 10 years ago. This past year, upon the advise of some very accomplished bowhunters who had been longterm happy with the Spitfire mechanicals, I gave them a try. Had no problems with the Spitfires, but I'll refrain from recommending any mechanical to anyone.
So all your anti mech has been based on that one time?Hell I've had blades fall out of fixed blade heads but didn't stop using them.None of them are fool proof.
I shot muzzy for a long time and have shot rockets for a long time.The rockets have put deer down faster and lead to better blood trail with the 1 3/4" cut.
I hate hearing people say they lost a deer with a mech and then say they hit it in the shoulder.They seem to think if they were shooting a fixed blade they would have got the deer.I;ve seen a lot of deer shot in the shoulder with fixed blade that were never found.
Bottom line is both styles of broadheads work if you make a good shot.Neither work very well if you make a bad shot.
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#1989412 - 07/11/10 02:16 PM
Re: Broad head question
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Rowdy
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I have shot Thunderheads for many years ,even through the muzzy craze.To me the best thing out there. They are tough and easy to tune.Bone Crushers is what I callem 
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#1989432 - 07/11/10 02:47 PM
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Wes Parrish
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Different styles of broadheads have different advantages & disadvantages.
Fixed blades are less apt to give you an unexpected problem.
Fixed blades will generally penetrate better, and break bone better.
We all try to make the best shots possible.
But sometimes we're a little off, no matter what kind of broadhead we're using. Maybe the fixed blade is more likely to bust thru both shoulders; maybe the mechanical is more likely to drop the deer with a gut shot.
Shoot what works best for you, but don't assume more expensive is better, or that mechanicals are without disadvantage over fixed.
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#1989441 - 07/11/10 02:56 PM
Re: Broad head question
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fishboy1
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Thunderheads are great broadheads but a little "flimsy" IMO.
Muzzys are a little more expensive but are tougher made.
ex 1. First bow season I got a little bored one day. Had an armadillo making a ruckus all morning and decided to let him have it. WHACK> killed the dillo' but mangled my thunderhead. Bent the point and all the blades. Had to trash the head.
ex 2. Shot a muzzy at a deer and missed, hit the dirt behind it and got about 8" of penetration. Had to dig the arrow out of the ground. A rock stopped the arrow and my muzzy head was fine, just had a ding in the edge of the blade. Resharpened it when I got home and have killed a couple deer with it since. Still in balance and still flies and spin checks ok.
I take the time to tune my bow each year so the field point vs. broadhead issue doesn't bother me.
The chance that a mechanical head "could" deploy incorrectly is not another variable I want to worry about. YES they have gotten much better, but I still hear a LOT of stories each year about how a mechanical BH failed. Bow hunting is tough enough without loosing sleep wondering if my gear might fail.
IF I shot a deer and couldn't recover it, I don't want to wonder if it was my shot, or my mechanical BH that was the point of failure.
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