My point. I don't care to change up what I enjoy
just to TRY and appease a group that would never
accept me anyway. PC is out off control nowadays IMO

I have an awesome food plot,with a salt lick at 519 yards from my shooting bench,,I can easly set up at 75 yards on this same plot,,the farthest I ever killed a deer is 485 yards,,I know I can make the 500 yard shot on an unspooked deer,,,would it be unethical to intentionally set up 500 yards from where you know deer will be just to be able to say you killed a doe at 500 yards??

starting the middle of august I will fire 4-5 shots at that range every single day,,rifle will hold 3 to 3 1/2 inch groups at the range

Nope

I hunt because of the challenge that it gives me
Now if that means I stop using a compound and start
a using a re curve without sights or want to make long
long range shots that is what I will do..
A Long stretch to clubbing a baby seals.

All the politically correct BS doesn't interest
me. Honestly IMO does more to damage the tradition.

Guess I am a redneck and I will keep on killing animals,
eating them and decorating my house with their heads not
For a second pretending to care if I stepped on a
bug or broke a branch in the process no matter who
it may offend.

Most people are a product of where they are born,or live,500 yard shots are taken ,and made with regularity in the western US.

I can't see the challenge of the "hunt" when you shoot at excessive distances. The deer has little advantage at that distance. They can't really see , hear or smell you at that distance or even if they did, they wouldn't be too concerned, IMO.

Since it takes very little hunting skills to take a deer at excessive distances, then the challenge must be the shot. Right?

So, would it be safe to say that hitting a living animal at 500 yards is more difficult than a paper target or milk jug? Actually, in most cases a target (jug) would be somewhat smaller than a live deer, so IMO the jug would be more difficult to hit. Maybe it's because the animal can move, but surely no one would dare shoot at a deer at 500 yards while it was moving.....would they? Surely not.

So, since the "shot" has nothing to do with hunting and it's more about making a great shot, then why not just shoot something that won't suffer if you don't make a clean hit.....?

Plus, someone else mentioned the fact that at that distance you can not be sure what is behind your target or even what obstructions there might be that you just simply can not see. I have trouble making out tree limbs and sage grass at closer distances through a scope, much less at 500 yards.

What a hunter should always do before taking a shot is clearly identify the target and make sure that there is nothing behind or in front of the target. Even at close distances, hitting a limb can send a bullet off in to all sorts of directions. At that distance, once you touch off that trigger, the bullet has a long way to go before reaching the target. Bullets have no eyes and no conscience....Clearly seeing the target and knowing what's in the area (in front and behind) is the responsible thing to do and I just can't see that being the case at 500 yards.....

again, thanks for the civil discussion (for the most part,lol)