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#1976521 - 06/29/10 12:27 AM ethics question
mr.big
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I have an awesome food plot,with a salt lick at 519 yards from my shooting bench,,I can easly set up at 75 yards on this same plot,,the farthest I ever killed a deer is 485 yards,,I know I can make the 500 yard shot on an unspooked deer,,,would it be unethical to intentionally set up 500 yards from where you know deer will be just to be able to say you killed a doe at 500 yards??

starting the middle of august I will fire 4-5 shots at that range every single day,,rifle will hold 3 to 3 1/2 inch groups at the range
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#1976532 - 06/29/10 03:38 AM Re: ethics question [Re: mr.big]
richmanbarbeque
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For me yes for you probably not.
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#1976542 - 06/29/10 05:28 AM Re: ethics question [Re: richmanbarbeque]
pastorbmp
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If you can shoot accurately consistently at that distance, do it. But, I thought the thrill of hunting was to see how close you get when killing the deer?!? I guess everyone is different.
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#1976589 - 06/29/10 06:35 AM Re: ethics question [Re: pastorbmp]
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 Originally Posted By: pastorbmp
If you can shoot accurately consistently at that distance, do it. But, I thought the thrill of hunting was to see how close you get when killing the deer?!? I guess everyone is different.
The thrill of getting up close and personal with your target is one thing. Making a clean long range kill with a gun you built and bullets you loaded well that's something else altogether!!!
With the practice you are going to put in and your proficiency with your weapon I’d say go for it!!
Good luck!!!!
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#1976612 - 06/29/10 07:01 AM Re: ethics question [Re: Beekeeper]
BlackBelt
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Years ago I cleanly took a deer at 305 yards with my HK91 (308 Win caliber).

Since then I decided that for me those types of shots are unnecessary and I won't be taking one that far again.

I took the shot just because I had faith in my ability and in my rifle.

However, as time has gone by, I've changed my mind and decided that it wasn't really 'sporting' to take that shot. My only reason for taking the shot was to prove something to myself, and in my opinion that isn't what hunting is about.

Since that shot years ago, the longest shot I've taken on a deer was at 60+/- yards. I drew a line personally that I wouldn't shoot over 100 yards at a whitetail where I hunt. There's just no reason to do so as there are so many deer. I'm a good enough hunter that I can slip in close enough and stealthily enough to take a shot at very close range.

Although I can understand why someone would take a super-long shot, for me it crosses the line I set for myself ethically as a hunter. Not bashing others decisions, but just throwing out my experiences.

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#1976617 - 06/29/10 07:05 AM Re: ethics question [Re: BlackBelt]
JohnnyBond
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No I don't think so ......if you can make the shot take it
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#1976630 - 06/29/10 07:16 AM Re: ethics question [Re: JohnnyBond]
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Very ethical, provided the following:

effective weaponry and marksmanship
suitable shooting conditions
legal situation (no bait in TN in order to position animal)
the intent of the hunt is to harvest the animal, not jus take a pot shot

IMO YMMV

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#1976633 - 06/29/10 07:19 AM Re: ethics question [Re: CBU93]
jb3
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I thinik it would be cool if there was no food plot or salt to attract the deer, meaning you were hunting and spotted the deer by glassing without everything set-up already.
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#1976636 - 06/29/10 07:21 AM Re: ethics question [Re: BlackBelt]
Beekeeper
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 Originally Posted By: BlackBelt
Years ago I cleanly took a deer at 305 yards with my HK91 (308 Win caliber).

Since then I decided that for me those types of shots are unnecessary and I won't be taking one that far again.

I took the shot just because I had faith in my ability and in my rifle.

However, as time has gone by, I've changed my mind and decided that it wasn't really 'sporting' to take that shot. My only reason for taking the shot was to prove something to myself, and in my opinion that isn't what hunting is about.

Since that shot years ago, the longest shot I've taken on a deer was at 60+/- yards. I drew a line personally that I wouldn't shoot over 100 yards at a whitetail where I hunt. There's just no reason to do so as there are so many deer. I'm a good enough hunter that I can slip in close enough and stealthily enough to take a shot at very close range.

Although I can understand why someone would take a super-long shot, for me it crosses the line I set for myself ethically as a hunter. Not bashing others decisions, but just throwing out my experiences.
Hypothetical:

It is the last day you can hunt this season. You have seen very few deer all season and none of them were what you considered a shooter. You are in a shooting house with a good field of view, a rifle you have confidence in and a 130+ buck that is at least 3.5 years old standing still at 300 yards.

Do you take the shot?
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#1976637 - 06/29/10 07:23 AM Re: ethics question [Re: jb3]
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Seems like target practice to me and not hunting but JMO
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