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#1959681 - 06/14/10 09:25 PM UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread!
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I'll say this 1st off, Lesnar is Pretty much Unstoppable but I just dont like to watch him fight dont impress me if you will 4-1-0 and holds the belt???? Anyways just a little vent to upset some ppl you know who you are lol, he is the best and to be the best you have to beat the best, GO CARWIN GO get what you have worked for....and for the record Yes Frank Mir and Chuck Liddell need to Retire lol!

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventDetail.Home&eid=3262


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#1959965 - 06/15/10 09:18 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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i like Carwin, hope he wins
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#1960080 - 06/15/10 11:14 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: mathews338]
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First time I saw Carwin fight I said he is the guy that could beat Brock Lesnar! I think he is a better fighter. The only way Carwin loses is if Lesnar can just plain over power him. I think the kind of fighter Carwin is he will train to be the smatter fighter and I think he will win this fight! It is real hard not to pull for a real working mans fighter!!!
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#1960084 - 06/15/10 11:21 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Part of that life includes a full-time job as an engineer, and Carwin said that escape from the fight game has proven to far more beneficial than distracting.

"It's a place I get to go into at work, and I get to not think about fighting for a while and actually get to use my brain," Carwin said. "I went to college to retire in engineering. This whole fighting thing wasn't something that when I watched the first UFC, it wasn't like I was like, 'Wow, I want to do that.' It was more like, 'Wow, those guys are [expletive] crazy.'

"Now I guess I'm just part crazy, too."

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#1960877 - 06/15/10 08:16 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Glad to see some boys that know that Lesnar is HUMAN and not untouchable!
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#1962968 - 06/17/10 06:39 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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GO CARWIN! \:D
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#1963191 - 06/17/10 09:33 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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#1963193 - 06/17/10 09:33 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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Seriously whats your thoughts on Lesnar Dodge Man?
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#1963521 - 06/18/10 08:38 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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My thoughts on Lesnar is he is a BAD man! If he had started in MMA instead of the fake wrestling he would be a GREAT MMA fighter (not trying to say he is not now)! My thought is he is still new to the sport and Carwin has been fighting MMA for a long time. I like Brock and till I saw Carwin fight thought Brock would not be beat for a long time! I think with Brock being out of fighting for almost a year because of his illness gives Carwin a better chance to beat him than if Brock had a few more fights in the same time span. I don't like the Brock Lesnar that still thinks he is the WWE sometimes.

I like Brock when he acts tike a real fighter and dose not try to be a Bad A@#! On the other had I really like Carwin the more I see of him and the more I se how humble about fighting and then goes right back the a 5 or 6 day a week job when the fight is over.

I guess I and most people have more respect for Carwin than Brock. If Brock wins it will not be a shock to anybody but if Carwin wins it sure would not shock me one bit!
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#1964291 - 06/18/10 09:22 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Those are my thoughts I mean he is not a favorite but he is bad I give my cousin a hard time about it just because I am a Mir fan and he rubbs it in but I'll admit Mir is done IMO Lesnar is Bad though I just can't see how ppl call his technique MMA I mean Brocks only ground game is lay on em and pound I call it lay and pound...well that sound unapporpriate but something along those lines but what can I say if I was 285 and the champ I would do the same I guess and his power is phenominal though!
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#1964371 - 06/18/10 09:50 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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Brock is a bad motor scooter but if i wanted to watch wrestlin i would watch WWE. Brock kind of dumbs down UFC I hope Carwin thumps his head big time.
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#1965195 - 06/19/10 09:59 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: 8kler]
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#1965759 - 06/20/10 01:58 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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Carwin has WAY better boxing, and has close to the same level of wreslting as Lesnar.

I think if Lesnar gets him down, he will stay down. Brock hasn't been hit much, so his chin may not be able to take a good shot.

I say it will end in the first round.
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#1967867 - 06/21/10 10:19 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: ShaneHallum]
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#1968292 - 06/22/10 09:31 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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CARWIN.....CARWIN.....CARWIN......CARWIN.......CARWIN \:D
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#1968813 - 06/22/10 06:33 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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#1968935 - 06/22/10 07:48 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Wanderlei out of his fight Leben stepping in to take it coming off a TKO win against A-Train Simpson on the 19th!
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#1969881 - 06/23/10 09:48 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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 Originally Posted By: spitndrum
Wanderlei out of his fight Leben stepping in to take it coming off a TKO win against A-Train Simpson on the 19th!


That really sucks all around. For sure sucks for Yoshihiro Akiyama! LOL
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#1970011 - 06/23/10 11:08 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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#1971321 - 06/24/10 11:21 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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 Originally Posted By: spitndrum
Those are my thoughts I mean he is not a favorite but he is bad I give my cousin a hard time about it just because I am a Mir fan and he rubbs it in but I'll admit Mir is done IMO Lesnar is Bad though I just can't see how ppl call his technique MMA I mean Brocks only ground game is lay on em and pound I call it lay and pound...well that sound unapporpriate but something along those lines but what can I say if I was 285 and the champ I would do the same I guess and his power is phenominal though!


So Spit according to this statement I take it you are not a Matt Hughes fan? Lesnar is a bad man no doubt. Don't forget he is an Div I All American and National Champion. Yeah it was a long time ago but wrestling is like riding a bike. It will all come back to you over time. I am pulling for Carwin. If he can land one good solid punch to Brock's lunch box head he is going down. I don't think he has ever been hit. Now Carwin's chin can also be put into question. Look at the Gonzaga fight when he got tagged and buckled. He came back and one by KO but Gonzaga is not known for huge punching power. Only time will tell. I just hope Lesnar is laying face down or up doesn't matter but knocked out cold.
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#1971442 - 06/24/10 01:34 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: WingNut]
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 Originally Posted By: WingNut


So Spit according to this statement I take it you are not a Matt Hughes fan? Lesnar is a bad man no doubt. Don't forget he is an Div I All American and National Champion. Yeah it was a long time ago but wrestling is like riding a bike. It will all come back to you over time. I am pulling for Carwin. If he can land one good solid punch to Brock's lunch box head he is going down. I don't think he has ever been hit. Now Carwin's chin can also be put into question. Look at the Gonzaga fight when he got tagged and buckled. He came back and one by KO but Gonzaga is not known for huge punching power. Only time will tell. I just hope Lesnar is laying face down or up doesn't matter but knocked out cold.



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1999 NCAA II Heavyweight National Champion, Academic All-American
1998 Senior Bowl, Lead North in tackles
1997 NCAA II 1st Team All-American Football
1997 NCAA II Heavyweight National Runner-up
1997 Academic All-American
1996 RMAC Player of the Year
1996 NCAA II Heavyweight National Runner-up
1996 NCAA II All-American Football
1996 Academic All-American

Shane Carwin gained success both as an athlete, and a student. Shane went to Western State where he was a 3x NCAA Division 2 National Finalist, and a National Champion wrestler. He was also a 2x All-American in Football, the 1996 RMAC Football Player of the year, was invited to participate in the 1998 Senior Bowl as a linebacker, and also participated in the Indianapolis Combine. Shane was also a 3x Academic All-American. After graduating from Western State, he completed his 2nd degree at Colorado School of Mines where he was an assistant wrestling coach for 2 years.


That is with out wrestling his senior year at all so he could focus on Football and school. He is just as good a Brock in wrestling background!
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#1972293 - 06/25/10 07:53 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: ]
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Dodge Man I was never questioning Carwin's wrestling credentials. I know his background and that he was a Div II all american in both football and wrestling. I think that the wrestling is not going to be a factor. I think Lesnar is going to charge at him right from the get go and try to bring him down, kind of like he did Heath Herring. If Carwin stuffs the first take down its going to be who is the last man standiing. I think the wrestling is going to cancel out. I just hope that when/if the two collide and push into the fence that the cage holds up.
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#1972398 - 06/25/10 09:03 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: WingNut]
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I think Carwin will expect Brock to do just that so I think Carwin will train to stop the charge or will take the fight to Brock before Brock can charge him. I think if Carwin would charge Brock and get Brock off of his game plan it would really mess Brock up!
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#1972418 - 06/25/10 09:08 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Yeah no doubt. I just hope its a good fight. I would like to see them slug it out and then Carwin just KO him. Still kinda disappointed Silva is out. Never a dull fight when he fights. Chris Leban showed some class by stepping up on about 15 days rest to fight.
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#1972809 - 06/25/10 03:08 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: WingNut]
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All of Brocks wins have come in the 2nd round or latter! I am willing to bet if Carwin can take the fight to Brock and not let Brock fight like he wants to that shane can beat him early! I would be real surprised if they stand in the middle and swing away but man what a 30 sec fight that would be! \:D
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#1972870 - 06/25/10 04:03 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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I am going to predict an upset in this one. Carwin by KO or Ref Stoppage due to strikes.
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#1972888 - 06/25/10 04:20 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Kirk]
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Would not upset me one bit! \:\)
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#1973227 - 06/25/10 09:26 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Carwin is a bad mama jomma.


The wrestling will cancel out, unless Brock gets rocked and Carwin gets on top. As a wrestler, you don't like being on your back.. so unless Brock is ready for it. I think he will panic if Carwin rocks him and gets in a dominant position.
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#1974137 - 06/26/10 09:33 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: WingNut]
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I am a Hughes fan Jerry but he is like any other in my head is getting old I don't care to watch him anymore \:D
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#1976487 - 06/28/10 11:24 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: WingNut]
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#1976489 - 06/28/10 11:24 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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#1976951 - 06/29/10 12:00 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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Brock still needs to slow down and learn more..

Carwin will give him one hell of a run
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#1976990 - 06/29/10 12:43 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: ShaneHallum]
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I will be giving away something used either at weigh ins or during the fight (UFC 116) all you have to do is be a member on this site (www.mtxmma.com) to win. My gloves from UFC 111 sold for $10,000 and this is possibly one of the biggest UFC HWT Fights in history. I will personally sign and authenticate the prize as well.

Sign up and if you are a member of shane-carwin.com all you have to do is log in they are on the same network.

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#1977122 - 06/29/10 02:36 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Very Cool I might sign up!
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#1977219 - 06/29/10 03:43 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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Very Cool I might sign up!


They don't ask for anything but a email so it is real easy! i signed up in seconds! \:\)

Shane's website is cool also! It takes about as long to sign up on his website and he replies to questions and posts all the time! You can also send him anything you want and he will autograph it for free and send it back to you!

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#1977515 - 06/29/10 08:31 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Cool Gear I might get one of those shirts!
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#1977550 - 06/29/10 08:44 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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Lesnar will beat him like a school girl..... ;\)
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#1979898 - 07/01/10 08:10 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Rackseeker]
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Just ordered the the fight this morning. This fight is going to be a good one. I just hope it doesn't end in 20 seconds. Carwin can punch like a dang donkey can kick. I like both fighters. I think lesner will win IF his chin can stand up to carwins heavy fist.

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#1981597 - 07/03/10 03:41 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: medwc]
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Tonights the night brock gona take a little nap \:D
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#1981617 - 07/03/10 04:22 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: 8kler]
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I ordered it yesterday! I can't wait! I wish some of you guys lived closer maybe we could all get to gather and watch it and split the cost! \:D
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#1981639 - 07/03/10 04:46 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Spit and me usually get together, but we haven't done that in several months. I'd like to have a big get together and cook out before the fight. We all should plan something out.
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#1981674 - 07/03/10 05:12 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: ShaneHallum]
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prelims will start on Spike in about 2 hrs
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#1981802 - 07/03/10 07:48 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Bring it ON!!!

Carwin Carwin Carwin!!!
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#1981897 - 07/03/10 11:26 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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Brock, Brock, Brock!!!!

That was Good!!!!

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#1981905 - 07/03/10 11:44 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: medwc]
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That was a good fight. Brock showed some good class in that fight too.


and what about Chris Leben \:D he's the man!
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#1981911 - 07/03/10 11:59 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: ShaneHallum]
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Overall, an entertaining card. Brock got the win without really landing a punch. Plus, he proved he could take a punch (and a pounding). Carwin simply punched himself out on Brock's hard head.
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#1981918 - 07/04/10 12:28 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: ShaneHallum]
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and what about Chris Leben \:D he's the man!


I love it, I like him arrogant but seems those are my favorite fighters!
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#1981921 - 07/04/10 12:32 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: de novo]
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 Originally Posted By: Novocaine
Overall, an entertaining card. Brock got the win without really landing a punch. Plus, he proved he could take a punch (and a pounding). Carwin simply punched himself out on Brock's hard head.


Brock is the Best yall there I said it....

#1 IMO fight woulda been stopped any other fight because Lesnar was running away and just had his hands up, I thought it shoulda been stopped...

#2 Carwin looked comfortable but after the fight in the octagon interview he said he was going out...

#3 Why can't Lesnar just admit that he was getting that Rump whipped, when the question was asked he started thanking all his sponsors and such \:D

#4 Overall he honestly impressed me tonight with the show of class included the touch of gloves and the start of the 2nd round with a grin across the octagon saying OK OK you handed it to me and now its my turn raising his hand for a glove touch to start the 2nd, and him using submission to win hats off to Brock I enjoyed it honestly!
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#1981922 - 07/04/10 12:32 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Kirk]
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 Originally Posted By: Kirk
I am going to predict an upset in this one. Carwin by Ref Stoppage due to strikes.


Shoulda been IMO
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#1982052 - 07/04/10 09:52 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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I have seen them stop fights for a lot less punishment. Carwin had Lesnar down and applied 50+ unanswered power shots. Lesnar was turtled up and getting his head rocked. He was NOT advancing position, He was not trying for a submission, he wasn't fighting back at all, he was just laying there getting pummeled. They need to be consistent on stoppages. They stopped the Bonner fight and Schaub fight earlier in the night for a lot less damage.


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#1982068 - 07/04/10 10:21 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Kirk]
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Agree with you Kirk but its a Money thing you know this, that fight had to last longer than the 1st round cause all of Carwins wins were in the 1st round!
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#1982113 - 07/04/10 11:57 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Kirk]
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LMBO!!!

Oh so now we are going to start the "Well if the Ref would have done this and that.", Fight is over and Brock won.

Very hard to be consistent on stoppages. It is a judgement call by the ref. Brock was getting pounded but he didn't seem out of it. You have to protect yourself. You go ahead and just stand up to mule kicks(Carwin's punches). JMO fellas

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#1982146 - 07/04/10 12:32 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: medwc]
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The only question I can ask is, who has the real champions belt today.

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#1982194 - 07/04/10 01:37 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Rackseeker]
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EVEN Dana White couldn't believe it wasn't stopped. Dana was interviewed after the fight and he said he was concerned while it was going on that the fight was not stopped. HOWEVER, he was glad it wasn't after the fight progressed. He said it showed just how tough Brock really was.

No sour grapes or whining, just an opinion about refereeing.

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#1982212 - 07/04/10 01:58 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Kirk]
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 Originally Posted By: Kirk
I have seen them stop fights for a lot less punishment. Carwin had Lesnar down and applied 50+ unanswered power shots. Lesnar was turtled up and getting his head rocked. He was NOT advancing position, He was not trying for a submission, he wasn't fighting back at all, he was just laying there getting pummeled. They need to be consistent on stoppages. They stopped the Bonner fight and Schaub fight earlier in the night for a lot less damage.




Ain't that the dang truth! I have seen a lot of fights stopped for way less!
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#1982217 - 07/04/10 02:00 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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Carwin said his body just gave out on him.

"I appreciate the outpouring of support and everyone who showed up at The Foundation Room last night after the fight. You guys know how to make a man feel like a winner even on his lowest of days. I really do want to thank #TeamCarwin. You guys pushed me up this mountain and many of you have
been with me for a long time. I will need your help to climb back to the top so I appreciate you standing by me.

The game plan last night was to be patient and let the fight come to you. When I had him in trouble the ref keep saying he was going to stop it and then towards the end of the 1st my body began to seize up. In between rounds I could not move my legs and had what felt like a whole body cramp. My cardio was fine but my body was not. What can you do? You have to stand up and face your opponent.

Heading into the second I knew I need to finish the fight or I was going to be in trouble. Much like the Champion he is I am sure Brock was thinking the same thing. I had zero take down defense as my legs were dead to me and the rest is as they say history.

Brock was a good guy through this entire fight. He did not talk a bunch of smack and he fought like a warrior. He did what he needed to do to keep his belt and that is what being a Champion is all about. I am going to have to claw my way back to the top but I wouldn't want it any other way. I know I belong
with the very best; all I need to do is prove it again.

Loosing is what happens on the way to winning. I will be back and better from the lessons learned in this fight.

Thank you to my Coaches, Sponsors, Manager, Family, Friends and Fans."

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#1982357 - 07/04/10 07:07 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Dodge Man]
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I will give Lesner his due respect, he had a 265 pound man laying on him beating the crap out of him for over 2 1/2 minutes and was able to survive, regroup and win.

Chris Leben pulled out an impressive submission on Akiyama. You could here the Japanese MMA community collapse when he tapped out.

This was one of the best action MMA fight cards I have seen a few years.

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#1982674 - 07/05/10 10:22 AM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: Kirk]
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The final punch count I heard was Carwin landed 57 consecutive shots on the ground against Lesnar. At times Lesnar covered, moved, and threw a few hammer fists back. At times Lesnar turtled up in a fetal position, appeared to quit, and absorbed blows. When the ref refused to stop it he would try to survive again. Simply staying conscious shows how tough Lesnar is.

Prefight, tons of money was wagered on Carwin. He started out as >+200 underdog and by the time the fight started it was a pick 'em. The bookies would have lost a ton of money with a Carwin victory. Based on this alone, Carwin would have been hard pressed to win the fight without a knock out.And Lesnar showed he won't be KO'd.
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#1983137 - 07/05/10 09:24 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: de novo]
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I will give Lesnar respect for the class he showed except after the fight when he was punching his face like I'm not hurt I'm not hurt and he didnt have a straight peice on his face \:D
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#1983263 - 07/05/10 11:05 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: spitndrum]
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All depends on the ref. Could have been stopped, but wasn't. Victory to Lesner. I've never been impressed with Lesner as a fighter, but he's holding the belt.
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#1988587 - 07/10/10 04:38 PM Re: UFC 116 Lesnar vs. CARWIN Official Thread! [Re: buckhorn40]
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Next up for Lesnar is Cain Velasquez at UFC 121. October 23 in Anaheim.
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