#1958685 - 06/13/10 07:20 PM
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with all this rain we have had and have been having that there will be as many acorns as last year?
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#1958696 - 06/13/10 07:31 PM
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RKenney
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I don't know, but I have seen some fruit trees loaded down. Down the road from me, there is a peach tree with the limbs sagging.
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#1958701 - 06/13/10 07:39 PM
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i sure hope so. i've got a spot that always produce when the acorns are there.
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#1958715 - 06/13/10 07:54 PM
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I hope not,Ill have em cornered.
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#1958755 - 06/13/10 08:21 PM
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I hope not either..I mean I do for the deers sake and health,but then I don't because they are so hard to hunt when there is a bumper crop of acrons,just like this past year..My sightings was way down..BUt the sign was still there,and I got tons of trail cam pics,they just wasn't moving much..
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#1958770 - 06/13/10 08:33 PM
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Just find the tree(s) their on and you will see plenty!
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#1958893 - 06/13/10 10:48 PM
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Boone 58
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From earlier observations i belive there will be a heavy crop of white oak....not sure about red oak yet...
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#1958896 - 06/13/10 10:53 PM
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Rain? ETN is almost 5" short for the year already.
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#1959203 - 06/14/10 09:06 AM
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I'm seeing a pretty big acorn crop developing again.
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#1959209 - 06/14/10 09:10 AM
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Wes Parrish
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Seeing a big acorn crop developing (before they hit the ground) still doesn't mean we'll have many (edible) acorns.
But it is good to know we "might" have a good acorn crop, as the alternative of having no acorns developing assures us we won't.
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#1959221 - 06/14/10 09:15 AM
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mathews338
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i think we will and i hope it is just like last year because i do not have many oaks around me and when the few i do have are loaded the deer are not hard to hunt
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#1959223 - 06/14/10 09:16 AM
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I like years when there are a good acorn crop myself, makes finding them a no brainer.
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#1959243 - 06/14/10 09:32 AM
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mr.hicks
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i hate a bad hay year for my horses but it will mean less fawns killed by the farmers.
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#1959270 - 06/14/10 09:52 AM
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One thing I particularly like about an above average acorn year I like years when there are a good acorn crop myself, makes finding them a no brainer. With a good acorn crop, I think the average hunter sees FEWER deer while hunting, then hunts less due to his disappointment of seeing fewer deer, usually resulting in a lower deer harvest. For this reason, I would expect the deer harvest to decrease in years of good acorn crops and increase in years of poor acorn crops,
During years with more than abundant mass the deer can quickly adapt and readily avoid areas of moderate to higher hunting pressure and still fill thier all nutritional needs... during low mass years the average core area for most any deer, and thus the herd as whole, is going to expand and folks are gonna be seeing more of em...imo
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#1959324 - 06/14/10 10:26 AM
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Wes Parrish
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Tndrbstr,
What you stated above is generally the case. So it's somewhat baffling why the buck harvest went up in my area (in 2009 over 2008), although the doe harvest did go down.
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#1959329 - 06/14/10 10:27 AM
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Can't hurt .
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#1959417 - 06/14/10 11:28 AM
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Tndrbstr,
What you stated above is generally the case. So it's somewhat baffling why the buck harvest went up in my area (in 2009 over 2008), although the doe harvest did go down.
my guess would be it had to do with the change in the muzzeloader season...
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#1959428 - 06/14/10 11:38 AM
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Seeing a big acorn crop developing (before they hit the ground) still doesn't mean we'll have many (edible) acorns.
Yup, all depends on the rainfall towards the end of the summer, especially August and early September.
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#1959434 - 06/14/10 11:48 AM
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with all this rain we have had and have been having that there will be as many acorns as last year?
Hard to say. I remember a few years ago, we didn't have much rain at all after the first week or two of June. July and August could be dry as a bone, like it was back then. I hope that's not the case, though.
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#1959502 - 06/14/10 12:51 PM
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A La Nina pattern is expected to kick in during the peak of the summer. This usually means hot and dry for the Southeast. However, a big tropical storm season is also expected which could mean some big rains if hurricanes come up from the Gulf.
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#1959512 - 06/14/10 01:01 PM
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One thing I particularly like about an above average acorn year I like years when there are a good acorn crop myself, makes finding them a no brainer. With a good acorn crop, I think the average hunter sees FEWER deer while hunting, then hunts less due to his disappointment of seeing fewer deer, usually resulting in a lower deer harvest. For this reason, I would expect the deer harvest to decrease in years of good acorn crops and increase in years of poor acorn crops, During years with more than abundant mass the deer can quickly adapt and readily avoid areas of moderate to higher hunting pressure and still fill thier all nutritional needs... during low mass years the average core area for most any deer, and thus the herd as whole, is going to expand and folks are gonna be seeing more of em...imo Exactly, most hunters simply dont change their hunting styles to adapt to the changes in deer movement. This is where you hear the famous, 'My area was full of deer last year and I killed XYZ, but this year they are all gone, I dont know what happened to them'?? LOL, when they have simply changed their patterns due to a change in food source. You have to hunt them where they are, not where you want them to be! Abundant food, especially acorns, being spread out over so much area, can really limit the amount of area the deer have to cover to get what they need, nutrition wise, which is where most people miss out by hunting the wrong areas when this happens! We also normally have a good tightly timed and intense rut during good acorn years as well, but after the last few years I dont put much weight on anything that is "supposed" to happen! lol
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#1959585 - 06/14/10 03:01 PM
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Great post Winchester. Dead on the money.
In a bumper acorn crop year, hunting ag fields in October isn't going to pay many dividends.
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#1959637 - 06/14/10 08:58 PM
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You have to hunt them where they are, not where you want them to be!
That is EXACTLY right! I couldnt have said it better myself
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#1959691 - 06/14/10 09:32 PM
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RKenney
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Preffered acorn areas is the key. When there are alot of acorns, deer become choosey. Humans are the same way. If you go thru a buffet with all kinds of food, you will choose the best.
I know some areas where there are a few older white oaks where the ground is very fertile. The deer flock to those trees first. Just because the the woods are full of acorns, doesn't mean the deer won't be concentrated.
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#1959847 - 06/15/10 06:05 AM
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This is where you hear the famous, 'My area was full of deer last year and I killed XYZ, but this year they are all gone, I dont know what happened to them'??
one of the worse habits for some hunters to learn to ever get out of is to quit huntng last years deer...imo and it seems to be worse when they are hunting a particular deer too....
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