#1951915 - 06/07/10 12:09 PM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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Got a link to that "Enjoyable Debate"? 
Look at the very bottom of page 5 here: Indiana Discussion That's where it all began.
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#1951937 - 06/07/10 12:32 PM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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mrk80
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thought it was 2
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#1951959 - 06/07/10 12:46 PM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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Like I have said here for years! Any time a small group of individuals, can show up at a single meeting, one weekday out of the year, and get changes made to the entire states seasons/bag limits/etc. Whether they be good or bad, or in the favor of the state biologist/employees that are paid to make these very decisions, is a very flawed system.
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#1952014 - 06/07/10 01:41 PM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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Wes Parrish
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Like I have said here for years! Any time a small group of individuals, can show up at a single meeting, one weekday out of the year, and get changes made to the entire states seasons/bag limits/etc. Whether they be good or bad, or in the favor of the state biologist/employees that are paid to make these very decisions, is a very flawed system.
Certainly not a perfect system in TN, but far worse it would be if those same wildlife decisions were made by state legislators. You think it's "political" now? Imagine how bad it would be if most of those making the decisions not only don't hunt or fish, but are totally clueless about wildlife issues, and couldn't care less if you have a zero or a 3-buck limit.
We actually have it better in TN (regarding how our wildlife agency is governed and sets seasons/rules) than most states.
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#1952023 - 06/07/10 01:52 PM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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Like I have said here for years! Any time a small group of individuals, can show up at a single meeting, one weekday out of the year, and get changes made to the entire states seasons/bag limits/etc. Whether they be good or bad, or in the favor of the state biologist/employees that are paid to make these very decisions, is a very flawed system.
That is exactly what happened in Indiana.
The state deer biologists said that going to an OBR was not a biological detriment to the herd. If the hunters wanted it they would do it.
Enough squeaky wheels showed up at the meetings and it passed. A lot of Indiana deer hunters were blindsided that first year. They never knew a thing about it until they went to get their Hunting Guide the next year.
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#1952047 - 06/07/10 02:05 PM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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Got a link to that "Enjoyable Debate"? Look at the very bottom of page 5 here: Indiana Discussion That's where it all began.
Interesting indeed.
When I get time I'll post there.
Not sure where he is getting " Here are the statistics that Indiana DNR kept in relation to going to a 1 buck limit."
The IDNR has not kept any "trophy records" for about 12 or more years. That is handled now by the Indiana Deer Hunters Association which was the prime mover of the OBR.
In the recent renewal of the OBR trial the IDNR stated emphatically that the record books was not reliable data to base anything on.
Since the deer biologist at that time said that Indiana had only 5 to 6 thousand "double dippers" (one buck with a bow and one buck with a firearm) proior to the OBR and now we are killing about 6,000 MORE that we did then, I sure cant see any "buck savings".
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#1952776 - 06/07/10 11:44 PM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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Seems like this went from a question about Kentucky to a discussion about limit changes and politics in Indiana. Oh well now we can start the Kentucky vs. Indiana debate, that will be nice ! Maybe I misunderstood the title question, but I thought it meant do you think that all hunters in Kentucky only shoot 1 buck each, not do you agree or disagree with a 1 buck limit.
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#1952812 - 06/08/10 06:08 AM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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Do you think considering TN is #3 and KY #4 in the top 10 poorest states in the U.S. that it plays a role in poaching? Deer would make a good meal for families needing food..?
I doubt this, since families on food stamps are able to buy WAY YONDER more groceries than I am able to buy.
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#1952930 - 06/08/10 08:55 AM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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Seems like this went from a question about Kentucky to a discussion about limit changes and politics in Indiana. Oh well now we can start the Kentucky vs. Indiana debate, that will be nice ! Maybe I misunderstood the title question, but I thought it meant do you think that all hunters in Kentucky only shoot 1 buck each, not do you agree or disagree with a 1 buck limit.
LOL..... the OBR does seem to get a lot of attention doesn't it?
I hunt KY too and I can say that they have a disapportioned amount of game outlaws.
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#1953300 - 06/08/10 01:50 PM
Re: How many believe that KY has a 1 buck limit..?.
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[LOL..... the OBR does seem to get a lot of attention doesn't it?
I hunt KY too and I can say that they have a disapportioned amount of game outlaws.
I totally agree !!! The farm we hunt in Ky has a public gravel road that runs through it and during deer season about every 10 minutes you hear gravel turning and the local poachers are creepin' by tryin' to do a drive by. Its funny that same gravel road gets almost zero traffic the rest of the year.
Last year my buddy was hunting a stand in a hollow not far off of that road. His truck was parked on the side of the road at the edge of one of our fields. He heard a vehicle approach, then shots were fired, doors open and shut and talking. All of this was in sight of his vehicle.
We have also found gloves under one of our stands, but hey at least they got out of the vehicle ! The rural areas with gravel roads and the smaller country roads truly are a poachers paradise.
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