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#1937330 - 05/24/10 07:05 PM Something wierd
JCDEERMAN
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Something wierd is going on at our place in Hickman County.

There have been 2 instances (that I have heard) where something is causing a stir with our neighbors in the middle of the night. Once was about a month ago...A lady (that I know) was woken up in the middle of the night by her dog trying to get in her house. The dog was scared to death. She got in a closet with all the guns she owned and called all the neighbors. They came and tried to find what was causing the scare, but didnt see anything.

The second occurrance was about 2 weeks ago where her 1/4 mile away neighbor (her 38 year old grandson that watches over our place). He was in his house and his wife heard a loud roar outside that she couldnt explain. She opened her backdoor and all of their rabbit beagles were in their doghouses screaming bloody murder, the cows were all mooing and hearding up in the middle of the field in defense mode as instincts tell them too. They have lived out in the country their whole lives. He went outside with a shotgun and a spotlight, but didnt see anyhing.

One of the county deputies with the sherrifs office said that he spotted a bear about a mile from there about 2 months ago. I didnt really believe him, but now, I'm kinda having second thoughts. Remember, this is Hickman County....just southwest of Nashville by an hour or so.

Whats yalls thoughts? Could this be a bear? I NEVER woulda thought there would be a day where a bear would be seen anywhere around there
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#1937358 - 05/24/10 07:25 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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Could have been a bear; could have been "something" else. A friend of mine was hunting with me at Big Sandy a few years ago when he saw "something" else. He no longer deer hunts because of this sighting and insists I am crazy for walking thru the woods in the dark.
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#1937380 - 05/24/10 07:52 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: GRAMPS]
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Yep, def something unusual that really terrified them. Bear or large cat could do it.
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#1937421 - 05/24/10 08:28 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: GRAMPS]
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 Originally Posted By: GRAMPS
Could have been a bear; could have been "something" else. A friend of mine was hunting with me at Big Sandy a few years ago when he saw "something" else. He no longer deer hunts because of this sighting and insists I am crazy for walking thru the woods in the dark.


My dad has a few stories from Big Sandy from back in the 70's that scared him to death. To this day, I have never seen him be scared of anything. Some of the stories are just eary.

I would think a bear would be the best guess. He said that he had never seen animals act the way they were acting. And that they had never been so terrified...the cows behavior wasnt anything they have ever seen. It's kinda something that you just want an answer to. Especially if I am there just about every weekend without a worry in the world. It seems like there is a little aggression to the "thing". I guess my pistol will be riding my hip even when I'm out in the woods now, atleast until there is an answer.
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#1937432 - 05/24/10 08:36 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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could be bears,or panthers,or maybe a pack of Coyotes?
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#1938146 - 05/25/10 11:28 AM Re: Something wierd [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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 Originally Posted By: JCDEERMAN
Something wierd is going on at our place in Hickman County.

There have been 2 instances (that I have heard) where something is causing a stir with our neighbors in the middle of the night. Once was about a month ago...A lady (that I know) was woken up in the middle of the night by her dog trying to get in her house. The dog was scared to death. She got in a closet with all the guns she owned and called all the neighbors. They came and tried to find what was causing the scare, but didnt see anything.

The second occurrance was about 2 weeks ago where her 1/4 mile away neighbor (her 38 year old grandson that watches over our place). He was in his house and his wife heard a loud roar outside that she couldnt explain. She opened her backdoor and all of their rabbit beagles were in their doghouses screaming bloody murder, the cows were all mooing and hearding up in the middle of the field in defense mode as instincts tell them too. They have lived out in the country their whole lives. He went outside with a shotgun and a spotlight, but didnt see anyhing.

One of the county deputies with the sherrifs office said that he spotted a bear about a mile from there about 2 months ago. I didnt really believe him, but now, I'm kinda having second thoughts. Remember, this is Hickman County....just southwest of Nashville by an hour or so.

Whats yalls thoughts? Could this be a bear? I NEVER woulda thought there would be a day where a bear would be seen anywhere around there


I've got a couple of close friends that have a farm in Hickman county they hunt, all of them have seen tracks and 2 of them claim to have seen a big cat!
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#1938240 - 05/25/10 12:53 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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Cool!
Where abouts in Hickman?
Cats don't usually roar.
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#1938263 - 05/25/10 01:28 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: skynimrod]
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 Originally Posted By: skynimrod
Cool!
Where abouts in Hickman?
Cats don't usually roar.


Yup, cougars have more of a high pitched screech

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#1938355 - 05/25/10 03:28 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: Bayou Buck]
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I haven't heard any recent reports, but my wife's grandfather and brother both say they have seen bear in SW Hickman County (this was 20 years or more ago). I wouldn't say that it is impossible for there to be an isolated one, with all the hills and hollows and caves back in the hillsides.

The guy that helps me cut firewood says that his grandfather cut the paw off of a "panther" (not a black one!) about 35 years ago. The story goes that he was in the chicken coop one evening right at dark and something started ripping one of the boards off of the coop. He happened to have a hatchet with him and when it stuck its paw back in to rip off another board he swung the hatchet and cut off its paw, and whatever it was ran off screaming. Supposedly he kept the paw and many people saw it; my firewood guy said it looked just like a tan housecat paw but was bigger than a man's fist.

I have had one pretty weird Hickman County sighting myself, two years ago (on Halloween morning, of all days!). It was right at 6:00AM as my wife and I were driving to work on Highway 100 a few miles from home, so it was still dark. As I came around a curve I saw something pretty big crouching next to the highway that ran (actually, it was more like "glided") across the road very quickly in front of us. It was very dark in color, about the body size of a small/medium deer but with much shorter legs and a very long tail. I didn't say anything because I thought I might have imagined it and my wife was probably snoozing and as she tends to do on the trip into work, but about a minute after we passed it she quietly asked me if I had seen something running across the road in front of us back in the curve. She described exactly what I had seen, so at least I knew that I hadn't imagined it. I'm guessing that it was a black coyote, but I see a bunch of coyotes out where we live and this one looked to be at least 2-3 times larger than the biggest one I have shot (41 lbs), and the tail didn't look right at all. I'm not jumping on the "black panther" bandwagon, but it was certainly the most unusual animal I have ever seen.

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#1938361 - 05/25/10 03:39 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: woodchuckc]
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Sounds like a bear to me.
Probably a young male looking to establish a territory.
A bear showing up in Hickman County doesn't shock me at all.
Really surprised we haven't had more showing up in lots of places across Tennessee. The bear population has been exploding in East TN.

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#1938366 - 05/25/10 03:51 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Wes,
My first thought was bear also, but it definitely had a tail right at half of the length of the body and the gait was not right for a bear (been around plenty of them in Michigan's Upper Peninsula when trout fishing while I was in college many moons ago).

I agree though - I would be surprised if there wasn't an occasional bear in Hickman County.

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#1938376 - 05/25/10 04:07 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: woodchuckc]
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Woodchuck,

Sorry for the confusion.
I was referring to the original post about the current strange sightings.

No idea what you saw, but I'm sure it wasn't a black panther. \:\)

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#1938549 - 05/25/10 07:35 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: skynimrod]
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 Originally Posted By: skynimrod
Cool!
Where abouts in Hickman?
Cats don't usually roar.


It's close to the 4-Way Market past Centerville towards Howenwald....Beaverdam RD area.
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#1938564 - 05/25/10 07:42 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Sounds like a bear to me.
Probably a young male looking to establish a territory.
A bear showing up in Hickman County doesn't shock me at all.
Really surprised we haven't had more showing up in lots of places across Tennessee. The bear population has been exploding in East TN.


Although it doesnt bother me that a bear is trying to establish a territory, I would still prefer them find another location \:\) . I've been bear hunting and killed a couple and am somewhat knowledgable about them, but I like the feeling of walking and being ANYWHERE on my property knowing that there is nothing out there that can hurt you. I NEVER use a flashlight during turkey or deer season....I would hate to run into a bad situation. I guess I just like to feel comfortable \:D
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#1938583 - 05/25/10 07:58 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: woodchuckc]
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 Originally Posted By: woodchuckc
I haven't heard any recent reports, but my wife's grandfather and brother both say they have seen bear in SW Hickman County (this was 20 years or more ago). I wouldn't say that it is impossible for there to be an isolated one, with all the hills and hollows and caves back in the hillsides.

The guy that helps me cut firewood says that his grandfather cut the paw off of a "panther" (not a black one!) about 35 years ago. The story goes that he was in the chicken coop one evening right at dark and something started ripping one of the boards off of the coop. He happened to have a hatchet with him and when it stuck its paw back in to rip off another board he swung the hatchet and cut off its paw, and whatever it was ran off screaming. Supposedly he kept the paw and many people saw it; my firewood guy said it looked just like a tan housecat paw but was bigger than a man's fist.

I have had one pretty weird Hickman County sighting myself, two years ago (on Halloween morning, of all days!). It was right at 6:00AM as my wife and I were driving to work on Highway 100 a few miles from home, so it was still dark. As I came around a curve I saw something pretty big crouching next to the highway that ran (actually, it was more like "glided") across the road very quickly in front of us. It was very dark in color, about the body size of a small/medium deer but with much shorter legs and a very long tail. I didn't say anything because I thought I might have imagined it and my wife was probably snoozing and as she tends to do on the trip into work, but about a minute after we passed it she quietly asked me if I had seen something running across the road in front of us back in the curve. She described exactly what I had seen, so at least I knew that I hadn't imagined it. I'm guessing that it was a black coyote, but I see a bunch of coyotes out where we live and this one looked to be at least 2-3 times larger than the biggest one I have shot (41 lbs), and the tail didn't look right at all. I'm not jumping on the "black panther" bandwagon, but it was certainly the most unusual animal I have ever seen.


I remember talking with you woodchuckc....you know just as well as I do that there is PLENTY of woods out there in Hickman County with absolutely nothing. Heck there is about 6,000 acres of timber company within a mile where there is no electricity run anywhere around there. It's all clearcut and pines. It kind of reminds me of Canada when I was up there bear hunting years ago.

I didnt want to get into the whole "big cat" debate, but I am one to believe that at times, there is a "big cat" somewhere in the state of TN, whether its passing through (more probable) or lives here. I dont doubt your story at all woodchuckc....its very likely, imo. Anyways, I do not think it is a "Big cat", but more probable a bear (99% probable). But I just never thought about a bear being anywhere around our place.

My dad once told me of a study back in the 70's (I believe) where they placed a bear in West TN, and they tracked him over several months ALL THE WAY back to East TN....thats all I know about it. Whatever it is, it seems to be somewhat aggressive and not scared to get into trouble at night. With dogs trying to get inside and jumping full throttle into doors, I know its not the usual coyote after them....1st of all because they live with those wild animals annually, and 2nd of all, they heard the sound of something big, deep, and unlike anything they have ever heard.

I would like him to scat \:D
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#1939101 - 05/26/10 07:45 AM Re: Something wierd [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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 Originally Posted By: JCDEERMAN
 Originally Posted By: woodchuckc
I haven't heard any recent reports, but my wife's grandfather and brother both say they have seen bear in SW Hickman County (this was 20 years or more ago). I wouldn't say that it is impossible for there to be an isolated one, with all the hills and hollows and caves back in the hillsides.

The guy that helps me cut firewood says that his grandfather cut the paw off of a "panther" (not a black one!) about 35 years ago. The story goes that he was in the chicken coop one evening right at dark and something started ripping one of the boards off of the coop. He happened to have a hatchet with him and when it stuck its paw back in to rip off another board he swung the hatchet and cut off its paw, and whatever it was ran off screaming. Supposedly he kept the paw and many people saw it; my firewood guy said it looked just like a tan housecat paw but was bigger than a man's fist.

I have had one pretty weird Hickman County sighting myself, two years ago (on Halloween morning, of all days!). It was right at 6:00AM as my wife and I were driving to work on Highway 100 a few miles from home, so it was still dark. As I came around a curve I saw something pretty big crouching next to the highway that ran (actually, it was more like "glided") across the road very quickly in front of us. It was very dark in color, about the body size of a small/medium deer but with much shorter legs and a very long tail. I didn't say anything because I thought I might have imagined it and my wife was probably snoozing and as she tends to do on the trip into work, but about a minute after we passed it she quietly asked me if I had seen something running across the road in front of us back in the curve. She described exactly what I had seen, so at least I knew that I hadn't imagined it. I'm guessing that it was a black coyote, but I see a bunch of coyotes out where we live and this one looked to be at least 2-3 times larger than the biggest one I have shot (41 lbs), and the tail didn't look right at all. I'm not jumping on the "black panther" bandwagon, but it was certainly the most unusual animal I have ever seen.


I remember talking with you woodchuckc....you know just as well as I do that there is PLENTY of woods out there in Hickman County with absolutely nothing. Heck there is about 6,000 acres of timber company within a mile where there is no electricity run anywhere around there. It's all clearcut and pines. It kind of reminds me of Canada when I was up there bear hunting years ago.

I didnt want to get into the whole "big cat" debate, but I am one to believe that at times, there is a "big cat" somewhere in the state of TN, whether its passing through (more probable) or lives here. I dont doubt your story at all woodchuckc....its very likely, imo. Anyways, I do not think it is a "Big cat", but more probable a bear (99% probable). But I just never thought about a bear being anywhere around our place.

My dad once told me of a study back in the 70's (I believe) where they placed a bear in West TN, and they tracked him over several months ALL THE WAY back to East TN....thats all I know about it. Whatever it is, it seems to be somewhat aggressive and not scared to get into trouble at night. With dogs trying to get inside and jumping full throttle into doors, I know its not the usual coyote after them....1st of all because they live with those wild animals annually, and 2nd of all, they heard the sound of something big, deep, and unlike anything they have ever heard.

I would like him to scat \:D


I would also agree with you and Wes that it is likely to be a bear. I live about 9 miles further west of the 4-Way, down by NaCoMe camp, if you know where that is, so maybe your critter will end up wandering down my way!

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#1939733 - 05/26/10 05:57 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: woodchuckc]
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Many reports back in those days. I never saw one but the reports around the Turney Center exit were almost daily.
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#1939840 - 05/26/10 06:47 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: Wes Parrish]
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#1939856 - 05/26/10 07:01 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
Many reports back in those days. I never saw one but the reports around the Turney Center exit were almost daily.


Wouldnt suprise me at all. There is SO MUCH un-inhabited land there along HWY 50 right there around the Turney Center. Tens of thousands of acres of literally nothing. I remember years ago getting off at that exit and going that way to our place through Coble and seeing deer out the wazoo. I was actually told there was a sow and a cub seen off HWY 50 about 5 years ago...which would mean that there was a male somewhere around there. I always wondered if there could be a bear somewhere through there.

It will be interesting to see what I get on my trailcameras when I put them back out around the start of July. If I get a bear on there, I will definately post the pics....though its highly unlikely I will. Dont know if bears like salt, but we will see. If I do get a picture, I would assume the local county officer would want to investigate it? Does someone know? I would imagine so. I think we just got a new Game Warden. Hope he's up to the task
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#1939858 - 05/26/10 07:03 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: Mag]
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 Originally Posted By: Mag
Aliens


Actually, as I recall, bowriter has a story about camping there close to the Turney Center at a big pond while he was camping...something he couldnt explain.
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#1939888 - 05/26/10 07:24 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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#1940038 - 05/26/10 08:58 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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 Originally Posted By: JCDEERMAN

My dad once told me of a study back in the 70's (I believe) where they placed a bear in West TN, and they tracked him over several months ALL THE WAY back to East TN....


That's correct. Relocated bears will travel hundreds of miles to get back to their territory. Here in British Columbia -North America's Bear capital- the CO's (Conservation Officer's) captured a bear in the city of Vancouver. They put a radio collar on it and then transported the bear with the helicopter 600 miles north. Guess what! Within less than two years that same bear was right back in Vancouver again, same Neighborhood.

Since that day our CO's only capture bears for show,as not to upset city folks, then they take the animal in the woods and give it a bullet in the head.
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#1940211 - 05/27/10 02:08 AM Re: Something wierd [Re: huntwriter]
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Several things I couldn't explain and with witnesses.
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#1940270 - 05/27/10 06:36 AM Re: Something wierd [Re: bowriter]
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Only logical conclusion is "BIG FOOT"

Maybe moon magic.
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#1940298 - 05/27/10 07:31 AM Re: Something wierd [Re: Hawk]
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Aight, everyone post their weirdest encounter. Bored today and enjoy the stories. Some things are definitely hard to explain.
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#1940788 - 05/27/10 02:24 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: Winchester]
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I've saw trail camera photos of a bear on a friends lease in Southern Mississippi. They called in Wildlife and Fisheries and they caught the bear and relocated it to a swamp about 60 miles away. A week later the bear was back on the same camera and this time it had a collar. They called again and I dont know what happened to it.

There is also a pretty good bear population close to the MS River in West Mississippi and east Louisiana. Not sure how much their range has expanded by now.

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#1940790 - 05/27/10 02:26 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: Winchester]
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Wolves or on a come back!
I can handle big cats in the dark
Bears OK too Been their done that.
Wolves no way....
Bigfoot will let out a scary roar/shrill also.
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#1940977 - 05/27/10 04:43 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: skynimrod]
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I was hunting in Northwest Arkansas around Clarksville on my grandather's farm one weekend. The first day, my uncle shot a young doe, and he left it for about 15 minutes next to a creek bottom to get his 4-wheeler. When he came back it had been half way eaten. Didn't think much of it because there were a lot of coyotes in the area. The next day I was hunting a ladder stand on a gas pipeline and noticed a large body about 80 yards off stalking through the grass. I put my scope on it just as it slipped back in the brush. It looked like it might weigh just shy of a 100lbs and had the body of a cat. But the odd thing I noticed was that it had a long tail with what looked like rings around the very end. I told my family but nobody else saw the animal that weekend while hunting.

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#1940997 - 05/27/10 04:58 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: passthrough76]
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Cougars do have very long tails, and that's what usually gets your attention right away. The long tail sticking way up in the air twitching back and forth. They are very heavy also. Way heavier than you would think for their size.

Like many other animals the younger ones (males in particular) get pushed out of the area by their own family.
They have to Leave, or Die I guess.


Edited by skynimrod (05/27/10 04:59 PM)
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#1941268 - 05/27/10 07:21 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: skynimrod]
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I have been walking through the woods about an hour before dark without a flashlight and had something off to my side off the logging road about 30 yards. I would take a few steps and it would take a few steps. I sat there for 10 minutes and just listened and didnt hear a thing. I took a few more steps and stopped and I heard it take an extra step and then stop. You talk about putting chills up my back. It only walked when I walked. It was one of those nights that you couldnt see the hand in front of your face. I got up in my stand REAL quick. Didnt see a thing that morning. This was the same land I started this thread about. Though, this was about 6 years ago.
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#1941341 - 05/27/10 08:36 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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Sounds like whatever was following you 6 years ago....is now grown up....dum dum duuuummmm!
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#1943671 - 05/30/10 04:00 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: Winchester]
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I hate to admit it ,but just maybe on the big cats.I have had many around here come to me ,honest church going people swearing they have seen them.I hate to eat crow.I have been in the woods all my life,and never seen sign of a cat.Bears now thats a different story ,we have em come through all the time.My friend at work who lives (in Bell county KY) Took Pictures of a mother bear with 4 cubs.Now that is unusual,unless she adopted one or two
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#1943704 - 05/30/10 04:35 PM Re: Something wierd [Re: Good time Charlie]
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Several years ago I was hunting on South Cherokee close to Dutch Settlement just down the mtn from Pace Gap and saw something large and black less than 200 yards down the ridge from where I was at. It did not appear to be a Bear or Hog but I would estimate that it weighed well over 100 lbs. I never could get a clear look at it and after it had been gone for some time I couldn't find any sign of it's passing. I watched it for over 10 min. but it never came clear of the brush where it was at and the ridge fell away so steep that I lost sight of it as it moved down toward the river.
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