I've seen enough older bucks on our 1000 acres the last few years (game cams) to know that if I had 18,600 acres of much better habitat that I could have some big bucks as Ames seems to have.

Truth is, most hunters aren't good enough hunters to shoot 3.5+ year old bucks so getting them to 4.5 and 5.5 wouldn't be to hard unless mother nature took them out. How many do you know that do it on a yearly basis? Heck, every 3 years? I feel pretty confident, that on most properties, most hunters can't shoot 2.5 year old bucks consistently. Most of the hunters on our lease can't. If they could, trust me, they would. At least the ones making the minimum.

Not putting hunters down, just stating the facts. One thing I've learned through game cameras is they are there, in much larger numbers than most think and if most hunters could shoot them with ease, there would be a bunch more in the harvest every year.

World Class is also a term only defined by the individual. Unless there is leases (non fenced) in TN that consistently produces 170"+ bucks, then my personal opinion is there is no "world class" leases here. I don't know of any in the southeast except one in Mississippi and one is Arkansas and I don't have the $100,000+ to join those.

I've seen enough older bucks on our 1000 acres the last few years (game cams) to know that if I had 18,600 acres of much better habitat that I could have some big bucks as Ames seems to have.

Truth is, most hunters aren't good enough hunters to shoot 3.5+ year old bucks so getting them to 4.5 and 5.5 wouldn't be to hard unless mother nature took them out. How many do you know that do it on a yearly basis? Heck, every 3 years? I feel pretty confident, that on most properties, most hunters can't shoot 2.5 year old bucks consistently. Most of the hunters on our lease can't. If they could, trust me, they would. At least the ones making the minimum.

Not putting hunters down, just stating the facts. One thing I've learned through game cameras is they are there, in much larger numbers than most think and if most hunters could shoot them with ease, there would be a bunch more in the harvest every year.

World Class is also a term only defined by the individual. Unless there is leases (non fenced) in TN that consistently produces 170"+ bucks, then my personal opinion is there is no "world class" leases here. I don't know of any in the southeast except one in Mississippi and one is Arkansas and I don't have the $100,000+ to join those.

$100,000 a year seriously? that's unreal!

Clubs exist in TN that cost more than that to join.

what's so good about them, understand that it is probably a very good place to hunt but $100,000 or more

Are they worth that much? In my opinion, no. But what people do with their money is up them them.

If I had that much money to spend, I would join a lease in Iowa!