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#1911340 - 05/04/10 11:47 AM Re: Should High Fences be Illegal? [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
I would define "high fence" as a fence high enough to keep the animals from getting over it. ;\)


Sounds good except that all of the animals on a certain area would have to be able to jump the same size fence. Remember that in high fence areas its not always just deer and even if it was , can all deer jump over the same height of fence ? Believe it or not there are yearlings , does and younger bucks too, not just 200" monsters running around everywhere.

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#1911366 - 05/04/10 12:16 PM Re: Should High Fences be Illegal? [Re: B&C chaser]
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Yea, but I did say "animals"...all inclusive. ;\) Just what I would consider the definition to be. \:\)
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#1911386 - 05/04/10 12:30 PM Re: Should High Fences be Illegal? [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
Yea, but I did say "animals"...all inclusive. ;\) Just what I would consider the definition to be. \:\)


OK good deal. My point was that a 4 or 5 ft fence may keep some "animals" in, but it may take a 8 ft or so fence to keep other "animals" in. I think that maybe this was the direction that bowriter was headed or he could have been talking about "low" fence hunts, I'm not sure and shouldn't try to speak for him.

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#1919011 - 05/10/10 09:01 AM Re: Should High Fences be Illegal? [Re: B&C chaser]
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i believe many times when an individual has the funds available for land and a high fence, they also have the ability to have the twra and their resources as well - in terms of free seeds, plants, machinery, etc. of course, a high fence usually has a locked gate - so twra could be kept at bay. i think it is like shooting fish in a barrel because you can somewhat control the deer's movements - by restricting pressure, outside influences, food availability, etc. and you know the deer is there - that always helps.
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#1919951 - 05/10/10 09:51 PM Re: Should High Fences be Illegal? [Re: pass-thru]
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No. Enough government restriction as it is.but i would never step foot in one
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#1924089 - 05/13/10 10:30 PM Re: Should High Fences be Illegal? [Re: pass-thru]
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#1928607 - 05/17/10 03:36 PM Re: Should High Fences be Illegal? [Re: Tiny]
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I don't think they should be illegal, either.

I think that once the enclosures reach a certain size (and I'll leave that to the experts) with available cover, etc ... the game in them is every bit as difficult to hunt as a non-fenced area.

I also think that folks who do this should NOT have to pay for any animal contained, as long as they don't 'bait it' before closing it up. The animals were there of their own volition, utilizing the environment. As for 'taking the animal out of public use' ... well, they are also keeping animals out. So I see a zero-sum situation.
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#1929313 - 05/18/10 06:25 AM Re: Should High Fences be Illegal? [Re: Greg .]
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Since most all wildlife have the ability to swim, geographical boundaries are non-existent. Those that can't swim can surely fly. Man-made barriers are great for keeping humans confined , but not wildlife, IMO. High Fences can't confine humans if they want in or out bad enough.

Why would anyone want to completely surround their land with a high fence? Are they trying to keep humans out or animals in?

If they are trying to keep humans out, then maybe they should put up three sides of the fence and do a drive to run as many of the animals off the property as they can before finishing the fence. If they are trying to entrap animals and keep them on their property, then , IMO, they should be required by law to obtain permission from the state wildife people and maybe even get a permit or license to enclose the wildlife. Maybe there should be an annual fee as well.

Many people keep talking about "doing what they want on their land" and I agree that if it does not effect anyone or anything else, then you should be allowed to do whatever you want on your land. However, when it has direct effect on the wildlife, that is not okay.

IMO, enclosing deer on a property and preventing them from traveling around as nature intended is harmful to not only those enclosed,but can have a direct effect on the surrounding herd as well.

Will the deer finally begin inbreeding? Not sure, but maybe.

let's say that your property has a high concentration of mast crop trees and some essential crop land as well. You high fence the area and keep other deer away from that food source and you can do damage to the herd. Also, let's say that your mast crop has a bad year and you also have a bad crop year, then the deer's food is limited.....Will you be obligated to supply YOUR WILDLIFE with food if this happens?

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#1931239 - 05/19/10 06:54 PM Re: Should High Fences be Illegal? [Re: Bottom Hunter]
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I dont believe they should be illegal! i dont hunt them but to each his own and for many reasons.
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