#1924695 - 05/14/10 02:35 PM
Re: World Class Leases in TN
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Mabey they meant "third world." 
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#1924709 - 05/14/10 02:55 PM
Re: World Class Leases in TN
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What part of those world class pine trees do deer eat?
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#1924751 - 05/14/10 04:08 PM
Re: World Class Leases in TN
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World Class - I would take Presidents Island and never look back. Those pics look like our lease and it aint world class.
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#1924768 - 05/14/10 04:32 PM
Re: World Class Leases in TN
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How does that expression go about one being born every minute?
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#1925327 - 05/15/10 05:46 AM
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That looks like some timber co. land that I looked at last year in McNairy county.
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#1925358 - 05/15/10 07:27 AM
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Don't guess I have traveled enough to know, but I ain't sure I would call TN a "world-class" deer destination.
Honestly I am glad it ain't. Think leases are high now, sheesh....
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#1925401 - 05/15/10 08:13 AM
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Give me a couple thousand acres of heavily wooded land in west tn. and five years to 'get it in shape" and you might be surprised what will come off of it....
I'm not saying that I know what I'm doing, but I do have that much faith in West Tn. deer.......I've seen too many BIG deer come out of heavily hunted areas.....
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#1925405 - 05/15/10 08:17 AM
Re: World Class Leases in TN
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That looks like places on the lease I am on in Rhea Co.
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#1925505 - 05/15/10 10:31 AM
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Wes...We just bumped our minimum size restriction from 120" to 125" this year. Hopefully this will allow some of the 2 year olds being killed another year to grow.
I don't know that I'd consider Ames to be world class but it's a great place to see lots of deer and bunches of 115-120" bucks running around. It does have enough land to work with (18,600 acres of a very diversified habitat). I would consider it a premium club with lots of potential.
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#1925727 - 05/15/10 01:53 PM
Re: World Class Leases in TN
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Give me a couple thousand acres of heavily wooded land in west tn. and five years to 'get it in shape" and you might be surprised what will come off of it....
I'm not saying that I know what I'm doing, but I do have that much faith in West Tn. deer.......I've seen too many BIG deer come out of heavily hunted areas.....
BH i would agree with that
I, too, would totally agree with that!
The river bottom lands from Western Middle TN, across West TN to the Mississippi River would compete favorably to any land in Kentucky.
The single big difference is currently the statewide regs.
Not that I'd want the KY regs with their 1-buck limit and short gun seasons, but that's the main difference, and not the soil. Our TN gun season has over twice as many days and our annual buck limit is 3 times more. Kinda wish we were somewhere more in between, myself.
However, 2,000 acres is not a large enough tract to optimally produce and hold fully mature bucks --- much of why state regs matter greatly to whatever deer "management" you try. If the average buck has a rut range of say only 3 square miles (about 2,000 acres), how many of those will have their range exactly centered in the middle of any 2,000-acre tract? Not many.
With "only" 2,000 acres "your" bucks may be more likely to be killed "off" your tract than on it. Not saying you can't have great success that's worth your efforts, just saying the current state regs are a major limiting factor. You might go thru similar motions on only 500 acres in KY, and achieve the same outcome as 2,000 acres of similar soil habitat in TN.
That's where a place like Ames (with over 18,000 acres and the Hatchie River running thru it!) has a better opportunity to approach "World Class". Yet even there, I suspect most "Ames" bucks do not have a rut range entirely within Ames' borders.
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