#1909690 - 05/03/10 08:54 AM
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In your opinion which sense do deer depend on most? Smell, sight, or sound (hearing).
BSK and you other pros, lets wait until some other have had a chance to weigh in before you give us the correct answer.
*I say it would be sight, then smell, then hearing. Reason; Deer can hear you lots of times in the woods. Many times they can look right at you and not spook until you actually move while they watch you. Sure they can smell you down wind but it would be inpossible to ALSWAYS be down wind of a predater.
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#1909727 - 05/03/10 09:20 AM
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#1909846 - 05/03/10 10:17 AM
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The nose knows.
X 2 If they get a wiff of you ot's all over !!!
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#1909900 - 05/03/10 11:33 AM
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smell,no doubt
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#1909916 - 05/03/10 11:48 AM
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Deer in different areas react differently. Some smell is most important some sight but I would say hearing is last.
Mule deer would be different than whitetail. They are sight first. Elk would be smell.
Mother-in-law would be.. Nevermind.
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#1909951 - 05/03/10 12:21 PM
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a deer can see you and not know what you are. a deer can hear you and not know what you are. if a deer smells you, it knows exactly what you are and will react accordingly(either flee or hide).
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#1910085 - 05/03/10 01:46 PM
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Ok. Any OTHER pros (educated in the field of wildlife) go ahead and lets hear it. Sounds like smell is the popular census.
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#1910105 - 05/03/10 02:06 PM
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a deer can see you and not know what you are. a deer can hear you and not know what you are. if a deer smells you, it knows exactly what you are and will react accordingly(either flee or hide). x2
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#1910126 - 05/03/10 02:19 PM
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#1 Smell - one of the best noses in the business! #2 Sight - their ability to see movement is incredible #3 Hearing - actually, I don't believe it is any better than ours
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#1910169 - 05/03/10 02:42 PM
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a deer can see you and not know what you are. a deer can hear you and not know what you are. if a deer smells you, it knows exactly what you are and will react accordingly(either flee or hide). x2
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#1910242 - 05/03/10 03:20 PM
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My opinion, nose, sight then sound.
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#1910729 - 05/03/10 08:16 PM
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You can camo out climb a tree and become invisible, sit very still and be silent but nothing you can do to totally eliminate your scent.
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#1910775 - 05/03/10 08:38 PM
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I'm not a "pro", but it seems like a no brainer. I have been busted by all of the deer's senses, but by far, their nose rules. In the right conditions and terrain, I have watched mature deer become paralyzed when they catch a human scent molecule.
If they are in cover, they can wait you out.....all day long.
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#1910793 - 05/03/10 08:46 PM
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Smell.
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#1910965 - 05/04/10 03:33 AM
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I'm not sure that smell is the most important. I do feel it becomes less important each year unless you are hunting deep woods. If I had to pick one sense it would be sight combined with hunter movement.
Each year, where most of us hunt, deer become more accustomed to man. The smell of man is common. The sound of man is common. The sight of man is common. The movement of man, when he becomes a predator, is not common.
A man driving a tractor does not bother deer a bit. But let the man climb off that tractor and you have a different story.
Now deep woods deer is a different story. You see you just can't lump deer into a general category. You have to consider all the factors.
I have been studying deer for half a century and I don't know jack about them. I never thought I'd see the day they climbed on my patio and licked my grill.
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#1911179 - 05/04/10 09:08 AM
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I'm not sure that smell is the most important. I do feel it becomes less important each year unless you are hunting deep woods. If I had to pick one sense it would be sight combined with hunter movement.
Each year, where most of us hunt, deer become more accustomed to man. The smell of man is common. The sound of man is common. The sight of man is common. The movement of man, when he becomes a predator, is not common.
A man driving a tractor does not bother deer a bit. But let the man climb off that tractor and you have a different story.
Now deep woods deer is a different story. You see you just can't lump deer into a general category. You have to consider all the factors.
I have been studying deer for half a century and I don't know jack about them. I never thought I'd see the day they climbed on my patio and licked my grill. good point
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#1911298 - 05/04/10 10:49 AM
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BW I believe that many deer which live near farms or rural houses smell people often. They even get used to them driving by on tractors and lawnmowers but as you say, try getting off that machine and the deer usually get nervous. There's been a lot of discussion about scent controlling clothing and I believe that deer can detect human odor at different levels of strength, thus may sence danger based on this. This ability to detect the degrees of human odor may be why many hunters believe in the scent control measures practiced by many.
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#1911330 - 05/04/10 11:36 AM
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Smell no doubt. They can see or hear things and still not know exactly what each is. If they smell you, they know exactly what it is!
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#1911519 - 05/04/10 02:15 PM
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There senses are all strong, but there nose is powerful.
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#1911605 - 05/04/10 03:05 PM
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If smell you they don't necessarily wait around to see you. If they see you they tend to try and smell and or hear you before bolting.Same goes for when they hear you, they try to smell and or see you. But as BW said it all depends on many factors.
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#1911677 - 05/04/10 04:33 PM
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The answer is none of the above in every particular situataion....
But hearing and sight are strictly thought proccess related..how the deer interprets what it is seeing and hearing in relation to what it has been conditioned to environmentaly, or what it has experianced within the last few minutes.... smell is a chemical related proccess,...that is still subject to same rules.....
reguardless of popular opinion, deer are not inteligent.....but that don't make us hunters look to good sometimes does it!!! 
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#1911971 - 05/04/10 08:36 PM
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I've often wondered if when we go in to predator mode(hunting). We don't put off a different scent to the deer. It's been proven that they become conditioned to certain smells and sights and have no reaction to it,like others have said above but as soon as we change in to the hunting mode they act totally different.
Is it even possible for that to happen?
I've seen hikers walking down a trail before and seen deer on the same trail,within a few minutes and no reaction at all. I saw the same deer cross where a hunter had just been and flag and go the other direction. I don't know if it was just a coincidence or not,but I saw it happen myself.
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#1914195 - 05/06/10 01:13 PM
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When it comes to pure sensativity, a deer's sense of smell is by far the most sensative. They have noses as good if not better than a blood-hound's, and a blood-hound can track one individual through the smell of numerous other people, even days later.
Deer eye-sight is unique in the way their retinas are built. Instead of having one centrally located "focal point" they have a band across the back of their eye that keeps everything along the center of their vision--all the way side to side--in sharp contrast. This allows them to see any movement along the entire horizon across an incredibly wide arc of vision. They only have a very small blind spot directly behind their head.
From all indications, deer don't have much better hearing than we do, although they are exceptionally good at interpretting what they hear. We humans tend to ignore most of what we actually hear.
Now without question deer smell, see and hear us every day. Few areas outside of the remotest mountains are devoid of daily human activity. However, deer have a shocking ability to decipher which of those humans activities are dangerous and which aren't, even down to the ability to determine which individual types of human actvity and even which individual people are dangerous.
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#1914729 - 05/06/10 05:46 PM
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#1915396 - 05/07/10 05:15 AM
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You could walk into the elk pens at UW and pet any elk in there. Then walk in with a dart gun and you better be able to climb a fence.
Many times I have noticed the same behavior in deer. The minute you have something in your hands, it is a different deal. Stop walking and start sneaking and see what happens. Make eye contact and see what happens. All wildlife can sense a predator. So can many humans. If Huntwriter is reading this, I'll bet he can add quite a bit. This is his specialty.
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#1915501 - 05/07/10 07:38 AM
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This is exactly why you can oftentimes walk right up on game without even intending to. Then you start sneaking and cant get anywhere close! Most prey animals have an uncanny ability to sense danger! Thats why the big bucks walk right under BSK, he takes his bow and they think they are safe :), then he pulls his gun from hiding and shoots them!
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#1915523 - 05/07/10 07:55 AM
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Most prey animals have an uncanny ability to sense danger! Thats why the big bucks walk right under BSK, he takes his bow and they think they are safe
Think they are safe? They KNOW they are safe if I have a bow in my hands!
They dance around under my tree and laugh at me.
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#1915594 - 05/07/10 08:40 AM
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John is right. Animals can detect the smallest behavioral changes in humans and other animals. It's part of their survival skill. Are animals born with that skill? No they learn it from their mother, like many other things.
How keen that sense is can be best shown with an example of my wife and me. My wife is a photographer and when she takes pictures of wildlife she talks to the animals in a soothing voice, walks toward them, stands still then walks some more. With that tactic she can get very close to deer without alarming them. While she tries to get closer she never looks directly at the animals. Unbeknown to her she mimics deer browsing behavior. She told me that she just copied the way I walk among the tigers and elephants.
On the other hand if I try to walk up to deer I think like a hunter and the deer run. Why? Can they read my mind? No they can't but they pick up on the tiniest behavioral changes, so small that we do not notice them, but deer and other animals do.
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#1915657 - 05/07/10 09:26 AM
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I wonder what it feels like to talk in third person, act out your thoughts and dreams, and make all answers and statements fit the bill you like? Sorta like having a Mentor that you can control, but make them do and say all the things you want to hear. Just wondering if anybody here has ever thought much about it?
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#1915672 - 05/07/10 09:38 AM
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Not only can deer interpret the most minor behavior changes, deer also learn exactly which human behaviors are dangerous and which are not. In addition, they can easily learn humans "here" are OK, but humans "over there" are not.
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#1915682 - 05/07/10 09:41 AM
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John is right. Animals can detect the smallest behavioral changes in humans and other animals. It's part of their survival skill. Are animals born with that skill? No they learn it from their mother, like many other things.
How keen that sense is can be best shown with an example of my wife and me. My wife is a photographer and when she takes pictures of wildlife she talks to the animals in a soothing voice, walks toward them, stands still then walks some more. With that tactic she can get very close to deer without alarming them. While she tries to get closer she never looks directly at the animals. Unbeknown to her she mimics deer browsing behavior. She told me that she just copied the way I walk among the tigers and elephants.
On the other hand if I try to walk up to deer I think like a hunter and the deer run. Why? Can they read my mind? No they can't but they pick up on the tiniest behavioral changes, so small that we do not notice them, but deer and other animals do. They use "The Force"
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#1939735 - 05/26/10 06:00 PM
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nose is the one that doesnt fool them. they hear alot of things and sometimes dont panic cause they are curious animals...but when they smell danger they react without thought to "WHAT" THEY HEARD, OR SEEN....YOU CAN FOOL A DEER THAT SEES YOU BY NOT MAKING OR MOVING YOUR EYES ON CONTACT.
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