#1897586 - 04/24/10 11:20 PM
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RKenney
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I know it's early in the year, but what do ya'll think will be
the changes in the upcoming deer season, as far as the
regulations go? I don't really care what they are, as long as we
can kill atleast one male deer and a few does.
This is not a "limit post", but I would like to hear some ideas,
as to what you think will change or maybe should change.
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#1897588 - 04/24/10 11:24 PM
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I think about the only change will be a few more doe tags for b and a units
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#1897610 - 04/25/10 04:50 AM
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Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them. They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year.
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#1897613 - 04/25/10 05:17 AM
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Like to see more doe tags but satisfied all in all.
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#1897619 - 04/25/10 06:36 AM
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Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them. They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year.
seems to me the "actual resource" is improving every year without further restrictions. deer hunting in tennessee is better than ever. we would be better off if people like you DON'T spend your money and quit hunting altogether. get over it!
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#1897641 - 04/25/10 07:07 AM
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Depends, Im thinking the TWRC and TWRA will have to ask the state legislature first lol
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#1897665 - 04/25/10 07:39 AM
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Micro manage some areas as needed
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#1897668 - 04/25/10 07:39 AM
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Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them. They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year.
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#1897684 - 04/25/10 07:56 AM
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Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them. They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year. seems to me the "actual resource" is improving every year without further restrictions. deer hunting in tennessee is better than ever. we would be better off if people like you DON'T spend your money and quit hunting altogether. get over it!
We would be better off if you took a bath. 
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#1897702 - 04/25/10 08:15 AM
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Wow,only a few posts for this thread to get personal.
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#1897705 - 04/25/10 08:18 AM
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That's you argument for lowering limits treetramp? You admit you don't even hunt in Tn and you are an authority on hunting in Tn? Your the one that stinks. Like a troll.
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#1897721 - 04/25/10 08:33 AM
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Well ill say it again for the millionth time just for you TN RDG RNR. I have my own land therefore i dont HAVE to buy my license. I dedicate it all to wildlife. That probably wouldnt happen if i sold it or didnt work hard to keep it. I am a fan of TWRA just not the big game division's level of interest in improving TN's deer hunting for current and future generation. Would like to see some interest in improvements. Not seeing it. My opinion. You dont have to like it. You dish it and ill give it right back.
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#1897732 - 04/25/10 08:41 AM
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Well there is an ignore button. You and stik feel free. 
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#1897737 - 04/25/10 08:46 AM
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Probably will stay about the same.
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#1897743 - 04/25/10 08:48 AM
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NAH I'm good. Never used it never will. If I get tired of the BS the site continues to allow I will just stop coming here.
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#1897757 - 04/25/10 08:57 AM
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I for one like the proposed changes recommendations. I really like the 14 day muzzleloader doe season. The TWRA has and will always do whats right for the state...even if we don't agree...leave it to the experts, IMO...
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#1897775 - 04/25/10 09:13 AM
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Wish we would get a lower buck limit, but oh well keep dreaming i guess.
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#1897852 - 04/25/10 10:07 AM
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I hope they consider changing SW Tn back to a muzzleloader season pre and post rifle. We're missing prime rut time otherwise.
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#1898193 - 04/25/10 03:52 PM
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Like the rest of us did till they changed it last year.
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#1898370 - 04/25/10 05:32 PM
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Notice I said SW TN
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#1898578 - 04/25/10 07:34 PM
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I doubt they will change anything.
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#1898648 - 04/25/10 07:57 PM
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x2 and everything else stay the same.
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#1898813 - 04/25/10 09:01 PM
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I don't have much to say about regs anymore, I'm just going to hunt and harvest what I want too and try and deal with everybody else around me I guess
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#1898872 - 04/25/10 09:34 PM
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What about a 10,000 dollar fine for killing a yearling buck? No,
no, no, no,.......just joking...,just joking.
Bored again. I guess I can't wait for deer season to begin.
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#1899000 - 04/26/10 03:26 AM
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Probably nothing. It is working too well as it is.
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#1899126 - 04/26/10 07:05 AM
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Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them. They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year.
That above post is proof someone doesn't know anything about deer management in TN.
...or doesn't want to know. I guess it makes one feel better about their own lack of success when they can believe "the authorities" are to blame.
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#1899135 - 04/26/10 07:13 AM
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Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them. They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year. That above post is proof someone doesn't know anything about deer management in TN. ...or doesn't want to know. I guess it makes one feel better about their own lack of success when they can believe "the authorities" are to blame.
When i think of knowledgable, professional deer managers the name Brian Kinkle never comes to mind. Now when i think of cloacas and hired hands thats a different story.
You dont know anything about deer management either. Your just doing your daily JOB of blasting people with a different opinion.
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#1899154 - 04/26/10 07:44 AM
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How do you pronounce "cloacas" that seems innappropriate on a family type website.
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#1899157 - 04/26/10 07:48 AM
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Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them. They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year. That above post is proof someone doesn't know anything about deer management in TN. ...or doesn't want to know. I guess it makes one feel better about their own lack of success when they can believe "the authorities" are to blame. When i think of knowledgable, professional deer managers the name Brian Kinkle never comes to mind. Now when i think of cloacas and hired hands thats a different story. You dont know anything about deer management either. Your just doing your daily JOB of blasting people with a different opinion.
Well apparently neither does anyones name that works for the twra either in your opinion.......and cloacas, as well as hired hands, come in both sexes... 
Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them.
I wasn't aware that twra sold buck tags individualy...If that was the states motivation then the limit would most likley still be 11...
They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year.
Just what is the actual resource in YOUR opinion?  In MY opinion, I think they are doing an excellent job managing for the HERD. ..They may not be managing for the HORNS (antlers) as well as youd like for them to, but then that doesn't need to be thier number one goal either... in MY opinion...
...I'll give you anther dime and you can go to ky and buy yourself a twenty cent cup of coffee...
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#1899179 - 04/26/10 08:11 AM
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Keep the 3 Buck limit like they finally had sense to do last year(for Unit B) and legalize corn.
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#1899215 - 04/26/10 08:50 AM
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LMAO, Advice all the way from taking a bath (which is good advice here) to learning how to manage deer!! This one should be entertaining for sure!
I will agree with DA that baiting will likely be legalized in the near future!
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#1899284 - 04/26/10 09:20 AM
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Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them. They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year. That above post is proof someone doesn't know anything about deer management in TN. ...or doesn't want to know. I guess it makes one feel better about their own lack of success when they can believe "the authorities" are to blame.
sometimes i agree but i know guys that have the skills but just don't have the right neighbors and those are the guys that do need TWRA to help them but that not gonna happen and you guys will just keep saying that they are a bunch of unskilled cry babies
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#1899294 - 04/26/10 09:24 AM
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so you can kill 50 deer instead of 25
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#1899307 - 04/26/10 09:27 AM
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I sure hope baiting never becomes legal.
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#1899312 - 04/26/10 09:29 AM
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Nothing... As long as they can sell 3 buck tags they will manage to support that. Thats what is most important to them. They show little interest each year in improving the actual resource for the TN deer hunter which is unaccebtable IMO and why they wont get a dime from me again this year. That above post is proof someone doesn't know anything about deer management in TN. ...or doesn't want to know. I guess it makes one feel better about their own lack of success when they can believe "the authorities" are to blame. When i think of knowledgable, professional deer managers the name Brian Kinkle never comes to mind. Now when i think of cloacas and hired hands thats a different story. You dont know anything about deer management either. Your just doing your daily JOB of blasting people with a different opinion.
This ought to get interesting!!
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#1899332 - 04/26/10 09:42 AM
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If baiting were legal, would we all start out as apprentice baiters?
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#1899444 - 04/26/10 10:55 AM
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Serious question, How come at Wal-Mart just before archery season, they roll out a big skid of Deer Corn in the sporting goods Dept., but with baiting illegal in Tennessee, why don't TWRA officers go in there and speak to the store managers?
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#1899470 - 04/26/10 11:22 AM
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Normally they will do something that will make you scratch your head....especially since they finally let people hunt with a gun during more primetime than ever
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#1899508 - 04/26/10 11:59 AM
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Serious question: BSK, are you a TWRA employee?
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#1899511 - 04/26/10 12:04 PM
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everyone has access to 100's of thousands of acres of prime hunting land in Tn.
Folks spend way too much time and energy focusing on what they don't have instead of taking advantage of the opportunities that are smacking them in the face. JMO
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#1899596 - 04/26/10 01:17 PM
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Serious question, How come at Wal-Mart just before archery season, they roll out a big skid of Deer Corn in the sporting goods Dept., but with baiting illegal in Tennessee, why don't TWRA officers go in there and speak to the store managers?
the same reason that walmart might also sell buck shot...or that chevy sells a car that will go that will go 120 mph's when the legal speed limit is just 65 or what ever...as a free society we should be able to regulate ourselves. its called character..tho it seems that to many find that task just to difficult now days.......
everyone has access to 100's of thousands of acres of prime hunting land in Tn.
Folks spend way too much time and energy focusing on what they don't have instead of taking advantage of the opportunities that are smacking them in the face. JMO
Thats the truth right there!
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#1899625 - 04/26/10 01:31 PM
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BSK is not a TWRA employee. I am not a TWRA employee. We just have the knowledge and experience to think TWRA is doing a good job. Is there room for improvement? Always. Do you know what it is? NO! Their job is to manage the wildlife...all the wildlife, not make you happy.
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#1899650 - 04/26/10 01:47 PM
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#1899674 - 04/26/10 02:02 PM
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This is not a "limit post", but I would like to hear some ideas,
as to what you think will change or maybe should change.
Hopefully the mindset of some will change,you prob won't kill what Jordan or Drury will,you'll prob never even see what they see each yr,it's not the norm nor will it ever be. TN has some really great bucks but no matter what the regs you should always focus on reality for your area and not what was on the outdoor channel.
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#1899686 - 04/26/10 02:20 PM
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everyone has access to 100's of thousands of acres of prime hunting land in Tn.
Folks spend way too much time and energy focusing on what they don't have instead of taking advantage of the opportunities that are smacking them in the face. JMO
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#1899693 - 04/26/10 02:26 PM
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If baiting were legal, would we all start out as apprentice baiters?
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Apparently, you become a master with experience.
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See here is the thing. BTW- I am pretty shakey today excuse the typos. I know for a fact that TN is one of the verry best managed staes in the country. How do I know that? I hunted just about every one of them. IL is one the worst managed. Second is probably Ohio.
Yet TN hunters just won't recognize what we have. TN hunters continue to want to kill IL or Ohio deer. All you have to do is go up there and hunt because you will never kill them here. EVER.
All these arm chair biologist continue to blame TWRA for everything. Do you know what TWRA stands for? Nowhere in that name is happy hunter. If you think you can do a better job of managing ALL the wildlifee in TN, take your degree down to the headquarters and apply for a job. And it had better be a masters.
In the meantime, if you think the buck limit should be one, then by God just shoot one. If you want to kill KY or IL size bucks, go hunt IL or KY cause you aint going to ever kill them here.
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#1899782 - 04/26/10 03:23 PM
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WHAT WILL CHANGE?
I GUESS WE JUST WAIT AND SEE WHEN THE REG'S. COME OUT...
Let me say this: I'm not qualified to make changes so let's leave it to the experts...TWRA....
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I correct myself. The majority of TN deer hunters are happy with things the way they are. I am just sick and tired of these armchair biologist crying all the time without knowing a dang thing about wildlife management or even understanding the basic concepts. Got a degree in truck driving or banking so now they know how to manage a deer herd.
Pisses me off.
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#1899966 - 04/26/10 05:21 PM
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I correct myself. The majority of TN deer hunters are happy with things the way they are. I am just sick and tired of these armchair biologist crying all the time without knowing a dang thing about wildlife management or even understanding the basic concepts. Got a degree in truck driving or banking so now they know how to manage a deer herd.
Pisses me off.
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#1900070 - 04/26/10 06:08 PM
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I correct myself. The majority of TN deer hunters are happy with things the way they are. I am just sick and tired of these armchair biologist crying all the time without knowing a dang thing about wildlife management or even understanding the basic concepts. Got a degree in truck driving or banking so now they know how to manage a deer herd.
Pisses me off. That's the truth.
that pisses me off !!!
who was it that said experience is the best teacher, can't seem to remember i'm too stupid
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#1900119 - 04/26/10 06:40 PM
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I correct myself. The majority of TN deer hunters are happy with things the way they are. I am just sick and tired of these armchair biologist crying all the time without knowing a dang thing about wildlife management or even understanding the basic concepts. Well thats an assumption that you yourself "dont know a dang thing about". There are plenty of individuals on this website that have higher degrees and more experience in the related field than you. Some of you who think your the only ones with credientials and experience in the field are sadly mistaken. Big difference in deer HERD management and deer HUNTER management. That's your tip for the day.
Bow Girl,
You seem to be of the opinion that the people that want a lower buck limit know what they are talking about. This quote from Tree Tramp is from another thread.
Cant shoot a doe but you can shoot 3 bucks. Genius.
The area he is talking about has a lower density of deer than other areas of the state. I do not have a degree in game management but I have worked on the family farm all of my life and I know that the number of males in the herd has less to do with increasing the herd than the number of females in the herd. The area he is referring to can stand more pressure on the bucks but the does need to be protected to increase the herd in that area. From his remarks I gather that he has no idea about how a deer herd, or any other herd for that matter, increases.
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#1900313 - 04/26/10 07:28 PM
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everyone has access to 100's of thousands of acres of prime hunting land in Tn.
Folks spend way too much time and energy focusing on what they don't have instead of taking advantage of the opportunities that are smacking them in the face. JMO i understand that but one of my buddies has to drive 100 miles to meet his goals when he would like to be able to reach them in his own back yard, he understands it also that is why he goes somewhere else instead of the land he bought just to deer hunt on
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#1900317 - 04/26/10 07:30 PM
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See here is the thing. BTW- I am pretty shakey today excuse the typos. I know for a fact that TN is one of the verry best managed staes in the country. How do I know that? I hunted just about every one of them. IL is one the worst managed. Second is probably Ohio.
Yet TN hunters just won't recognize what we have. TN hunters continue to want to kill IL or Ohio deer. All you have to do is go up there and hunt because you will never kill them here. EVER.
All these arm chair biologist continue to blame TWRA for everything. Do you know what TWRA stands for? Nowhere in that name is happy hunter. If you think you can do a better job of managing ALL the wildlifee in TN, take your degree down to the headquarters and apply for a job. And it had better be a masters.
In the meantime, if you think the buck limit should be one, then by God just shoot one. If you want to kill KY or IL size bucks, go hunt IL or KY cause you aint going to ever kill them here.
Done with my rant.
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#1900321 - 04/26/10 07:31 PM
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I correct myself. The majority of TN deer hunters are happy with things the way they are. I am just sick and tired of these armchair biologist crying all the time without knowing a dang thing about wildlife management or even understanding the basic concepts. Well thats an assumption that you yourself "dont know a dang thing about". There are plenty of individuals on this website that have higher degrees and more experience in the related field than you. Some of you who think your the only ones with credientials and experience in the field are sadly mistaken. Big difference in deer HERD management and deer HUNTER management. That's your tip for the day.
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#1900338 - 04/26/10 07:35 PM
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Beekeeper, I think it was your post and you are correct. Not realizing the difference between deer herd management and deer hunter management is the major problem between the two and that is where it gets DUMB. Until you recognize that TWRA is only charged with deer herd management, you appear DUMB!
Sorry, I guess it was Bowgirl. I can't keep up with all this crap. I', out of here.
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#1900340 - 04/26/10 07:37 PM
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Beekeeper, I think it was your post and you are correct. Not realizing the difference between deer herd management and deer hunter management is the major problem between the two and that is where it gets DUMB. Until you recognize that TWRA is only charged with deer herd management, you appear DUMB!
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I correct myself. The majority of TN deer hunters are happy with things the way they are. I am just sick and tired of these armchair biologist crying all the time without knowing a dang thing about wildlife management or even understanding the basic concepts. Well thats an assumption that you yourself "dont know a dang thing about". There are plenty of individuals on this website that have higher degrees and more experience in the related field than you. Some of you who think your the only ones with credientials and experience in the field are sadly mistaken. Big difference in deer HERD management and deer HUNTER management. That's your tip for the day. Your starting to sound like another ,former member,relax
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#1900403 - 04/26/10 07:50 PM
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For us in lawrence and wayne counties giving up the week of what used to be the second MZ season and going to bow was not my favorite move but i sure enjoy deer hunting here in the great state of TN!
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Funny how people can hunt their whole lives in their home state yet cannt be an expert on deer management but some others can hunt out of state a few times and be experts at deer management in that state.
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Mr. Bro if that is directed at me, might I remind you I lived and guided in those states for many years and worked with their game departments. I have hunted many states far more than I hunted TN. I worked for the Il folks before they even had any deer.
If it was not directed at me, I agree.
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#1900621 - 04/26/10 10:14 PM
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I never thought my simple question would go bad. I just wondered
what some of you thought the "changes" might be or should be.
Just opinions, was what I was looking for, not fighting and
squabbling.
I always like to hear ideas and input from other hunters. Altough
I have deer hunted since 1967, I am always open for civil and
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#1900643 - 04/26/10 10:38 PM
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And experience coupled with education.
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#1900894 - 04/27/10 07:36 AM
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Serious question: BSK, are you a TWRA employee?
Good God no!
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Yes he is. He is a clerk in the turkey tag department.
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#1900995 - 04/27/10 08:48 AM
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Yes he is. He is a clerk in the turkey tag department.
I heard he was in charge of the "bow lobby". He's a busy man. Hehe!
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#1901061 - 04/27/10 09:20 AM
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everyone has access to 100's of thousands of acres of prime hunting land in Tn.
Folks spend way too much time and energy focusing on what they don't have instead of taking advantage of the opportunities that are smacking them in the face. JMO i understand that but one of my buddies has to drive 100 miles to meet his goals when he would like to be able to reach them in his own back yard, he understands it also that is why he goes somewhere else instead of the land he bought just to deer hunt on 100 miles,where does he live?
not saying that KY is better than TN it's just that he has permisson there and has confidence in it
he kills some deer off his farm in TN, just to small to be able to manage for what he really wants
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I feel his pain. I drive 4 hours oneway to hunt think I missed
3 weekends between the opener and MLK day. It would be nice to
be able to hunt my 20 acres and kill a trophy and still be home
for supper. Not happening so I do what I have to my choice no
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Yes he is. He is a clerk in the turkey tag department.
Now that's funny!!!
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I feel his pain. I drive 4 hours oneway to hunt think I missed
3 weekends between the opener and MLK day. It would be nice to
be able to hunt my 20 acres and kill a trophy and still be home
for supper. Not happening so I do what I have to my choice no
Complaints.
Same here just wish we could have it here but that's just wishful thinking
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I feel his pain. I drive 4 hours oneway to hunt think I missed
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everyone has access to 100's of thousands of acres of prime hunting land in Tn.
Folks spend way too much time and energy focusing on what they don't have instead of taking advantage of the opportunities that are smacking them in the face. JMO i understand that but one of my buddies has to drive 100 miles to meet his goals when he would like to be able to reach them in his own back yard, he understands it also that is why he goes somewhere else instead of the land he bought just to deer hunt on 100 miles,where does he live? jackson co. he drives to KY to hunt back and forth every weekend instead of getting room or making camp because he wants to be home with wife and kids for couple hours at night not saying that KY is better than TN it's just that he has permisson there and has confidence in it he kills some deer off his farm in TN, just to small to be able to manage for what he really wants
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#1902325 - 04/27/10 08:49 PM
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:D Some of y'all are killing me! LMAO! And this.......... When i think of knowledgable, professional deer managers the name Brian Kinkle never comes to mind. Now when i think of cloacas and hired hands thats a different story.
You dont know anything about deer management either. Your just doing your daily JOB of blasting people with a different opinion. ....There are plenty of individuals on this website that have higher degrees and more experience in the related field than you. Some of you who think your the only ones with credientials and experience in the field are sadly mistaken. BowGirl's got game (or something) I'll give you that! Good thing I'm NOT one of those experts with credentials, I'm just a hunter!  But just curious BowGirl, are your credentials what you posted in your profile? Ocupation: Bartender / Victoria's SecretI'm just curious. No competition thing, 'cause personally I got nothing.  
Heck no, sometimes you have to throw em off your scent i guess. tndrbstr sure fell for it he's asking me out on a date.
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I was more interested in the "pour me up a drink" qualifications!
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#1902368 - 04/27/10 09:13 PM
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Serious question, How come at Wal-Mart just before archery season, they roll out a big skid of Deer Corn in the sporting goods Dept., but with baiting illegal in Tennessee, why don't TWRA officers go in there and speak to the store managers?
Really
So what your saying is the TWRA should arrest anyone who sales corn?
Just because something is being sold, does not mean I have to go buy it and use it.
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