#1891728 - 04/20/10 02:09 PM
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Two of the biggest deer killed in recent years, a 190 inch 8 pt and a massive 13 pt that grossed 214 turned out to be poached. According to some reports, had they been legally killed, they would have been the largest 8 pt ever recorded by the Boone and Crockett Club and the largest typical buck killed during the 2009 - 2010 hunting season respectively.
Thanks to the dedication and hard work of Minnesota and Ohio wildlife officers, the two guys who thought they could cheat their way into the record books were caught and denied record book status.
Since catching cheaters is at least as challenging as legally tagging a trophy buck, I propose (with tongue planted firmly in my cheek) starting a scoring system to award points and record book status to the wildlife officers who catch and convict scumbags like Johnny Clay and Troy Reinke.
My new scoring system, which I'm calling the Leopold and Stoddard system would award points to WO's on the basis of the B&C score of the poached animal, the number of days jail time served, and the dollar amount of the fines assessed.
My complete rant, along with photos and links to the back stories is here http://www.pursuithunting.com/2010/04/broken-records.html
What do you guys think?
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#1891734 - 04/20/10 02:16 PM
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cecil30-30
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My oh my..What an 8pt! and its a typical on top of it!
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#1891739 - 04/20/10 02:19 PM
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#1891750 - 04/20/10 02:23 PM
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My oh my..What an 8pt! and its a typical on top of it!
Apparently it had only 5 inches of deductions, mostly due to a kicker point. Awesome symmetry!
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#1892219 - 04/20/10 05:31 PM
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Double-D-Team
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Very sad they were killed in the wrong....
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#1892316 - 04/20/10 07:19 PM
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sounds good to me
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#1892369 - 04/20/10 07:49 PM
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There was a very nice Illinois deer that was posted on here last fall that turned out to be illegal. The buck was killed before a buck tag was purchased. Fortunately, they emailed pictures back to buddies in TN to brag a little before they purchased their buck tag to "make it legal". One of your TN Wildlife Officers helped Illinois make the case. It is amazing what some folks will do for a few minutes of fame.
Edited by scn (04/20/10 07:51 PM)
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#1892390 - 04/20/10 08:04 PM
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plinker22
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I am all for it. I think a reward for WO getting the job done would be great.
Piece of crap poachers should never have their name mentioned. Those bucks were incredibly magnificent animals that some scum bag poached!
Gurrrrrrr!!!
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#1899098 - 04/26/10 06:47 AM
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BowGuy84
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there is a great thread on kentuckyhunting.net deer section about the one from Ohio...people claim to have seen it been hunting it and blah blah blah. Lots of crow eatten shortly there after. One ole cuss (smart) bet $1000 to every taker that it was somehow not legit.
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#1899191 - 04/26/10 08:24 AM
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I sure would have liked to have been there when they hauled his sorry a$$ out of the deer expo. As I think about it, I think the WO's who arrested him should get bonus points for executing the perfect perp walk. What could have been better than marching him in handcuffs through a crowd of deer hunters? Too bad they didn't issue tomatoes in advance.
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#1899526 - 04/26/10 12:20 PM
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BigWes50
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I know this is going to sound bad but every human can abuse something, power is pure evil. You would end up having WO and GW trying to make cases and stuff against hunters that haven't done any wrong. I've seen it with my own eyes and know of good guys that get a pissed off GW or WO on you and make your life hell!
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#1899647 - 04/26/10 01:43 PM
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I know this is going to sound bad but every human can abuse something, power is pure evil. You would end up having WO and GW trying to make cases and stuff against hunters that haven't done any wrong. I've seen it with my own eyes and know of good guys that get a pissed off GW or WO on you and make your life hell!
Sad but true, and in many cases the ones with an ego problem are the very ones who pursue a career where they can abuse their power, ex. police officers/wildlife officers, fit the bill! Definitely not all of either one, but they sure exist!
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In other words, one case could end in a hefty fine and some jail time, while another of the same caliber might end in probation. I like the idea of rewarding the officers tho, very much. 
