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#1884002 - 04/13/10 11:45 PM Eyes of a hawk
RKenney
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If you had the eyes of a hawk, while you were deer hunting in
thick cover, wouldn't that be fun. I guess "statue" bucks
standing in thick cover with a slight twitch of the ear, might be
more detectible.

When I say "statue" bucks, most hunters who hunt thick cover,
know exactally what I'm talking about.

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#1884024 - 04/14/10 01:06 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: RKenney]
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Yep, I once spotted a buck in some really thick cover,it was luck really that I saw him ,this one was actually bedded down and all I could see was the top of his rack.
Every once in a while I would take my eyes off of him to sort of rest my eyesight and it would take me 5 or so minutes just to find him again,amazing how they can just melt into their surroundings.
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#1884089 - 04/14/10 05:57 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: CopperHead77]
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;\) Yea buddy!
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#1884145 - 04/14/10 06:39 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: MUP]
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Ya it would be nice!
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#1884290 - 04/14/10 08:16 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: BigWes50]
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Amen had one last year bedded about 50 yards from the stand and I never knew he was there until he stood up.
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#1885452 - 04/14/10 09:59 PM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: Lincoln Co Archer]
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I'd rather have my eyes with his wings. Now that'd be some fun!
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#1885497 - 04/14/10 10:37 PM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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Didn't think about that Pursuit Hunter. Yes, that would really
be fun! I guess if I could be an animal, it would be a hawk or
an eagle. Buzzards can soar effortlessly, but I'm not too sure
if I could handle their diet.

Yea, I'll add a HA,HA! No smiley face.

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#1885667 - 04/15/10 07:41 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: CopperHead77]
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 Originally Posted By: Whitetail Junkie
Every once in a while I would take my eyes off of him to sort of rest my eyesight and it would take me 5 or so minutes just to find him again,amazing how they can just melt into their surroundings.


For an animal that is somewhat "monochrome" it is amazing at how they are almost invisible as long as they don't move.
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#1885685 - 04/15/10 07:50 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: BSK]
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Because birds' of prey incredible vision is based on the construction of their eyes, that type of vision is impossible to mimic. However, it is interesting how we humans can "train" our brain's vision processors to "see" more like prey animals see. Most prey animals have eyes built with a high density of rods--sensors sensitive to light and dark as well as motion. Our human eyes are more like a predators, with good binocular vision and many more cones that rods (good color vision and depth perception). Yet we do have more rods out at the periphery of our vision. And with practice we can use that peripheral vision to notice movement very much like prey animals can.

I've often been amazed that if you train your mind to focus on just movement, even the tiniest movement at great distance can catch your attention. I've also noticed this ability takes practice. Usually, "newbie" hunters don't have this ability at first, but will learn it with time. And like riding a bike, once you've leaned how to do it, you can basically turn it off and on at will. It may take a few days into a new hunting season to "rehone" the skill, but once learned it is never forgetten.
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#1885839 - 04/15/10 10:08 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: BSK]
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It's an almost "tense" zone you get into it seems, watching for the least bit of movement....but when you see it, and it's a deer moving thru, it's a cool feeling. ;\)
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#1885894 - 04/15/10 11:17 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: MUP]
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Hunting very seriously and with full concentration for any type Movement and even sound is very physically and mentally draining as well. Nothing will make you more tired than sitting in a tree all day on absolute full alert of ALL your surroundings! This is where I have a hard time relating to those who read books, or wear headphones, or play games, while on stand. I just cant even begin to tell them how much they are missing by not devoting their FULL attention to their surroundings!
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#1885904 - 04/15/10 11:24 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: Winchester]
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I can't do that stuff for fear of missing something! I couldn't stand the "not knowing if missed something" while I was reading a paragraph or something! ;\)
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#1885910 - 04/15/10 11:29 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Because birds of prey incredible vision is based on the construction of their eyes, that type of vision is impossible to mimic. However, it is interesting how we humans can "train" our brain's vision processors to "see" more like prey animals see. Most prey animals have eyes built with a high density of rods--sensors sensitive to light and dark as well as motion. Our human eyes are more like a predators, with good binocular vision and many moe cones that rods (good color vision and depth perception). Yet we do have more rods out at the periphery of our vision. And with practice we can use that peripheral vision to notice movement very much like prey animals can.

I've often been amazed that if you train your mind to focus on just movement, even the tiniest movement at great distance can catch your attention. I've also noticed this ability take practice. Usually, "newbie" hunters don't have this ability at first, but will learn it with time. And like riding a bike, once you've leaned how to do it, you can basically turn it off and on at will. It may take a few days into a new hunting season to "rehone" the skill, but once learned it is never forgetten.


Very good point. Our peripheral vision is much better at detecting movement and it is more sensitive to light than our central vision. Most of time, the first thing I see of a deer is a small movement of an ear, tail, or leg in my peripheral vision.
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#1885919 - 04/15/10 11:35 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Whitetail Junkie
Every once in a while I would take my eyes off of him to sort of rest my eyesight and it would take me 5 or so minutes just to find him again,amazing how they can just melt into their surroundings.


For an animal that is somewhat "monochrome" it is amazing at how they are almost invisible as long as they don't move.


Actually... If you look at a deer's coloration, they are perfectly camoflaged acording to the principles that I learned in the Marine Corps. We were taught to apply dark camo makeup to the areas of the face that are normally brightest (forehead, top of the nose, cheekbones) and light colored makeup to dark areas (under the chin, under the nose, under eyebrows). Take a look at that deer you've got hanging on the wall and see if he doesn't fit that description to a "T"
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#1885924 - 04/15/10 11:39 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
I can't do that stuff for fear of missing something! I couldn't stand the "not knowing if missed something" while I was reading a paragraph or something! ;\)


One of my first questions for the big guy is going to be "how many big bucks did I just barely miss killing that I never knew were there." I imagine it will be a pretty long highlight real.

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#1885926 - 04/15/10 11:41 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: BowGuy84]
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 Originally Posted By: BowGuy84
 Originally Posted By: MUP
I can't do that stuff for fear of missing something! I couldn't stand the "not knowing if missed something" while I was reading a paragraph or something! ;\)


One of my first questions for the big guy is going to be "how many big bucks did I just barely miss killing that I never knew were there." I imagine it will be a pretty long highlight real.


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#1885930 - 04/15/10 11:45 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: BSK]
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I didn't know that BSK but I have noticed in the dark, or shadows, that I can see animals better in my peripheral vision than looking straight at them. Try taking the dog out in the night and watching him wander around. You will be able to see him better if look slightly off to the side than straight on.
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#1885940 - 04/15/10 11:52 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Pursuit Hunter
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Whitetail Junkie
Every once in a while I would take my eyes off of him to sort of rest my eyesight and it would take me 5 or so minutes just to find him again,amazing how they can just melt into their surroundings.


For an animal that is somewhat "monochrome" it is amazing at how they are almost invisible as long as they don't move.


Actually... If you look at a deer's coloration, they are perfectly camoflaged acording to the principles that I learned in the Marine Corps. We were taught to apply dark camo makeup to the areas of the face that are normally brightest (forehead, top of the nose, cheekbones) and light colored makeup to dark areas (under the chin, under the nose, under eyebrows). Take a look at that deer you've got hanging on the wall and see if he doesn't fit that description to a "T"


This procss of camouflage is called "coutershading" and is one of the most common forms of animal coloration in Nature (darkest on the back, lightest on the belly). Species of nearly every Kingdom of living things use this system. It is obviously very effective hence the reason Natural Selection selects for it so often.

But I wouldn't consider countershading to be "true" camouflage, such as a leopard's spots or a tiger's stripes.

But wouldn't it be nice if deer were one of the species where the male used bright coloration to attract females? Can you imagine bucks in brilliant shades of red and royal blue!

Of course, deer wouldn't be anywhere near as successful of a species at avoiding predation if that were the case!
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#1885943 - 04/15/10 11:52 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: BlueMarlin]
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I have really good vision,20/15,but not Hawklike,I see deer ,Ive noticed quicker than most people,when my son asked me about,I told him that horizontal lines in the woods get my attention.Not much else in the woods that have horizontal lines,not sure when I picked that up.
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#1885948 - 04/15/10 11:55 AM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: BlueMarlin]
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 Originally Posted By: BlueMarlin
I didn't know that BSK but I have noticed in the dark, or shadows, that I can see animals better in my peripheral vision than looking straight at them. Try taking the dog out in the night and watching him wander around. You will be able to see him better if look slightly off to the side than straight on.


Try looking at very faint objects in the dark with your peripheral vision instead of looking straight at it. You can see much fainter stars at night out of your peripheral vision compared to looking directly for them. Our retina has a very high density of color-sensitive cones right near the center of our vision, but a higher density of light/dark/motion-sensative rods at the periphery.
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#1885960 - 04/15/10 12:02 PM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Hunting very seriously and with full concentration for any type Movement and even sound is very physically and mentally draining as well. Nothing will make you more tired than sitting in a tree all day on absolute full alert of ALL your surroundings!


I couldn't agree more. My wife just can't understand why I come home exhausted from 4 or 5 days straight of deer hunting! I really need a rest!


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This is where I have a hard time relating to those who read books, or wear headphones, or play games, while on stand. I just cant even begin to tell them how much they are missing by not devoting their FULL attention to their surroundings!


I guess every person is different. But I find I'm actually MORE attuned to my surroundings when I read a book. My ears are on high alert, and the way I read when hunting--read down a page and then slowly look all the way around me, left to right and then right to left and even in back of me--I end up seeing deer far sooner. I find that when I don't read I tend to fall into a visual "trance" and end up staring off in one direction for long periods of time.

I guess it's just the way my mind is built. If it isn't receiving stimulating input it goes into "zone-out" mode. Kind of like it did for four straight years of High School! ;\)
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#1885963 - 04/15/10 12:04 PM Re: Eyes of a hawk [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
I have really good vision,20/15,but not Hawklike,I see deer ,Ive noticed quicker than most people,when my son asked me about,I told him that horizontal lines in the woods get my attention.Not much else in the woods that have horizontal lines,not sure when I picked that up.


I've know hunters who are EXTREMELY good at this process--actually seeing bits and pieces of deer. I definitely am not. Again, everybody's brains work differently. I'm MUCH better at seeing the tiniest movement--the turn of an ear or the flick of a tail--than I am at identifying deer by "shape" clues.
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