i have let a couple of small bucks walk off later hearin a shot from the direction he went. of course i assumed somebody shot that deer only to see it 3 days later.

exactly, unless you actually saw the same deer on the ground how would you know what the other hunter was shooting at?

Let a nice basket six walk 2 years ago, then boom shot on the next farm. That's where i ask the question....should I just shoot everything? The farm next to ours will shoot anything that walks past us.

let a buck pass, and actually heard it get shot by a neighbor? My cousin and I both have. Just curious.

Ok, let me rephrase the question: Who has proof that the neighbor shot the buck that you let pass? I still have.

This is something I do not worry about. It changes NOTHING!

Oops, ignore my post above.

But really, who cares? If that buck wasn't up to your standards, who cares if it was up to the standards of your neighbor? If that buck made your neighbor happy, more power to them.

Oh, it doesn't bother me Bryan, I was just wondering since these posts keep flaring up from time to time, who has actually witnessed the deed, or has seen the bucks after the fact. I'm happy for our neighbor each time he connects, which is a lot btw, and I talk with him frequently before, during and after the season. He's actually quoting some QDM philosophies to me now about shooting more does! Bad thing is, we don't have that many deer period to be shooting every one we see. My doe sightings totalled 9 this past season, with only four bucks seen as well, two spikes, a decent 7 pt(which I took with my ML), and a nice little 8 ptr that got a pass during rifle.

Yeah if i was getting pics of monster mature bucks every year i wouldnt worry about the regs or neighbors either.

That's actually when I would be getting a little concerned about the neighbors!

Yeah if i was getting pics of monster mature bucks every year i wouldnt worry about the regs or neighbors either.

I see it happen all the time. The funny thing is the ones that say we need to let the smaller bucks go are the ones that shoot more of the ones I let walk. lol They either say they thought he was bigger or he kept coming back everyday so I couldn't take it anymore. It doesn't bother me what they kill. It's them saying we need to let them go when they are the people shooting them.

One neighbor is killing everything that crosses the fence and that would be fine except he is not checking them in or stopping with limits. Changing limits would not change this situation at all. His luck will eventually run out.

yep and i see on here so many times that it doen't matter what your neighbors kill, if you want to kill mature bucks and only have permisson on a small piece of land, it matters alot

you guys just say they need to become more skilled

how can all the skill in the world help you kill mature bucks when you only have access to 100 or so acres and everyone around you shoots the heck out of yearlings, i smart enough to realize they ain't gonna kill all of them but they can put a huge dent in them

i'm lucky i only have to deal with 2 guys on 35 acres that borders me all of the other properties around me that totals about 800 acres do not allow hunting at all

everyone does have the right to shoot whatever they want and i have no problem with that i would be the first to give my congrats to anyone no matter what they shot

everyone has personal goals and has the right to try to meet them

sounds to me like a good spot,800 acres on the border that no one hunts sounds good to me

But that's the point. If you know how to manage habitat and deer herds, you can have that despite what the neighbors are doing.

yep and i see on here so many times that it doen't matter what your neighbors kill, if you want to kill mature bucks and only have permisson on a small piece of land, it matters alot

you guys just say they need to become more skilled

how can all the skill in the world help you kill mature bucks when you only have access to 100 or so acres and everyone around you shoots the heck out of yearlings, i smart enough to realize they ain't gonna kill all of them but they can put a huge dent in them

i'm lucky i only have to deal with 2 guys on 35 acres that borders me all of the other properties around me that totals about 800 acres do not allow hunting at all

everyone does have the right to shoot whatever they want and i have no problem with that i would be the first to give my congrats to anyone no matter what they shot

everyone has personal goals and has the right to try to meet them

Selling snake oil may help sell tags but it aint doing a [censored] thing to help the deer herd improve.

Ha, well i will agree with half of that. If we did have a properly managed deer herd some could have that despite what the neighbors are doing.

Sometimes the skills that need to be improved are not the hunting skills but the skills needed to identify better areas to hunt and then find ways to hunt that property either by getting permission or by leasing it. IMO