#1885979 - 04/15/10 12:17 PM
Re: Montana Bans Game Cams!
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The only thing I use them for is to show me what's in the area,and that helps me to hunt a little harder/stay a little longer. EXACTLY, there is absolutely no argument that trail cams definitely offer an advantage over nothing at all. Now how much of an advantage, and how you use the info obtained from them, is totally up to the individual. But to say that they are useless from a hunting standpoint is way off base imo, as they absolutely can provide much information when used. I agree with BSK that they wont automaticaly put you in the right spot to kill every buck you get a pic of, but the info obtained from them is very very useful in many situations. Its the ones using them for the wrong reasons that has likely started their demise. It will be interesting to follow this one and see where it ends up??
From my experiences--and I use trail-cameras differently than most--they have provided no advantage. Again, 90+% of old buck kills have occurred outside the area where that particular buck was being photographed. The cameras provided no locational help at all.
Now if I were hunting different properties, without question cameras could be used to help choose the "best" property to hunt, and that would be an advantage.
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#1885982 - 04/15/10 12:22 PM
Re: Montana Bans Game Cams!
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Interestingly, here is the actual regulation:
"87-3-134 MCA. Restriction on use of electronic motion-tracking device while hunting. It is unlawful for a person, while hunting, to possess any electronic motion-tracking device or mechanism, as defined by commission rule, that is designed to track the motion of a game animal and relay information on the animal's movement to the hunter. A radio-tracking collar attached to a dog that is used by a hunter engaged in lawful hunting activities is not considered a motion-tracking device or mechanism for purposes of this section."
Notice the first two sentences: "Restriction on use of electronic motion-tracking device while hunting. It is unlawful for a person, while hunting, to possess any electronic motion-tracking device or mechanism..."
This regulation clearly states electronic devices are not allowed while hunting--in the process of actually hunting. That means you could not use or check a trail-camera while hunting, but COULD check your trail-cameras while not actually in the process of hunting.
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#1886033 - 04/15/10 01:32 PM
Re: Montana Bans Game Cams!
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Again, it will be interesting to see where this ends up??
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#1886066 - 04/15/10 02:16 PM
Re: Montana Bans Game Cams!
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Again, it will be interesting to see where this ends up??
I agree. This will be an interesting debate.
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#1886078 - 04/15/10 02:28 PM
Re: Montana Bans Game Cams!
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44fanatic
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BSK,
Direct paste from the MT regs:
Motion-Tracking Devices and/or
Camera Devices
It is illegal for a person to possess or
use in the field any electronic or camera
device who’s purpose is to scout the
location of game animals or relay the
information on a game animal’s location
or movement during any Commission adopted
hunting season.
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#1886093 - 04/15/10 02:41 PM
Re: Montana Bans Game Cams!
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skynimrod
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Only banned 'during' the season(s) as I read that - run your censes the rest of the year no worries  ferg....
June and July would be the only 2 months to use them. The rest all have hunting.
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#1886976 - 04/16/10 07:13 AM
Re: Montana Bans Game Cams!
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BSK,
Direct paste from the MT regs:
Motion-Tracking Devices and/or
Camera Devices
It is illegal for a person to possess or
use in the field any electronic or camera
device who’s purpose is to scout the
location of game animals or relay the
information on a game animal’s location
or movement during any Commission adopted
hunting season.
Thanks 44fanatic. Well that changes the equation, doesn't it!
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#1893746 - 04/21/10 08:46 PM
Re: Montana Bans Game Cams!
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Maybe the start of a trend nation wide? Hope not.
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i guess they think that patterning animals with a game cam gives hunters an unfair advantage.i think its crap. 
