#1869741 - 04/03/10 02:00 PM
Re: Trophy Management Areas
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BSK
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Oh and as to soils, we grew 5' high soybeans with 30% crude protien, and had native vegetation that we sampled over 20%. I think what everyone forgets is,what about the browse in the woods,far away from ag/food plot fields,that dont get lime,fertilizer,that make up far more of the deers diet than food plots,or native vegetation on the edge of ag fields. Whose gonna lime and fert those areas that are poorer soils.? Ill garuntee my food plots are putting out the best they can,but how much difference does that make when Im surrounded by a couple thousand acres of hardwoods?
And another thing hunters fail to properly assess is food quality all year long. Growing soybeans and having summer native food sources that are 20% protein is great, but what are the deer eating from the first frost to spring green-up, especially in a poor acorn year? That period makes up a significant portion of every year, and also encompasses the most stressful period of a deer's annual life.
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#1869753 - 04/03/10 02:20 PM
Re: Trophy Management Areas
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Good point above,Ive never thought about having my crops tested,just my dirt,who/where will test my clover to see how much protein its putting out?What else would you wanna see in a crop test?
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#1869878 - 04/03/10 05:20 PM
Re: Trophy Management Areas
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who/where will test my clover to see how much protein its putting out?What else would you wanna see in a crop test?
http://watersag.com/frame.htm
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#1870203 - 04/03/10 09:00 PM
Re: Trophy Management Areas
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thanks 8 pts
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#1873868 - 04/06/10 09:33 AM
Re: Trophy Management Areas
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BSK...Ames is talking about going to a 125" minimum this year. I can live with that but if they do I look for quite a few "mistakes". We take quite a few upper 120's and 130's so I don't think that's an unrealistic move overall. I don't see moving above that.
You would be suprised at the number of deer shot that don't make it. Even with a group of hunters that I consider NOT you typical whitetail hunter. I hunted there for 4 years myself and there are some serious hunters out there. Even with that group there are deer WAY under the minimum. When they go to 125" it can only get worse. Can you imagine what would happen if the same thing happened to the general hunting public. There would be dead bucks left all over the place because when they were ground checked they discovered the size wouldn't make it. Most can not judge the score. IMO antler points are all you could do, we can all count points. Expecting people to score a rack is setting yourself up for disappointment.
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