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#1859973 - 03/28/10 02:41 PM deerstand on my property. what woud you do
rem270
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a few years ago we found a buddy stand on our property that belonged to the neighbor beside us. it was about 75yds across the line. we left a note on it to get it out of there and he finally did.
theres another stand up the hill about 50yds. its on our property but closer to his line than the buddy stand was. im guessing its his but its definately not being used because the chain is broke and i knocked it down about 2 weeks ago. its a metal stand and in pretty good shape and beings its been there for atleast 5 yrs i know and him not getting it out of there do i have rights to it? its on my land and he hasnt got it out of there.
im thinking of getting it and putting it up somewhere else.
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#1859997 - 03/28/10 03:04 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: rem270]
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finders keepers, use it.
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#1860000 - 03/28/10 03:05 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: rem270]
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If i found a tresspassers stand on my side of the fence it would be gone.
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#1860010 - 03/28/10 03:14 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: lung-buster]
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leave a not in a zip lock baggy, if it was an honest mistake give it back, if he is a jerk keep it
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#1860017 - 03/28/10 03:18 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: 51 pointer]
rem270
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[quote=51 pointer]leave a not in a zip lock baggy, if it was an honest mistake give it back, if he is a jerk keep it [/quote
thats what we did with the buddy stand and he got it out. this other one i think he will never get it out of there because its old. only thing it needs is a new seat
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#1860138 - 03/28/10 04:05 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: rem270]
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If it's the same persons stand they should have gotten the message the 1st time. Your land, your stand.
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#1860192 - 03/28/10 04:19 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: archer19]
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 Originally Posted By: archer19
If it's the same persons stand they should have gotten the message the 1st time. Your land, your stand.



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#1860379 - 03/28/10 05:32 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: lung-buster]
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 Originally Posted By: lung-buster
If i found a tresspassers stand on my side of the fence it would be gone.
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#1860386 - 03/28/10 05:35 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: rem270]
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Tough question... Do what you think is right...I know what I would do...I know not much help...
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#1860440 - 03/28/10 05:59 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Double-D-Team]
landman
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the last one I found like that I took it down and moved to were I keep my equipment, but I also left a note in a zip lock bag, it was the game wardens phone # telling owner if he wanted stand back to call him for it....he never called
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#1860880 - 03/28/10 08:57 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: ]
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tell me where it is and i will get it or just tell me in relation to the old buddy stand heck we can get it this week when we go up there lol
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#1860937 - 03/28/10 09:37 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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keep it.
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#1860971 - 03/28/10 09:55 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: landman]
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I take them to the police station, and leave a note on the tree telling them where they can pick them up. If they are wooden, I burn them right there, or saw them to pieces. The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

I have found over the years, as wrong as it may seem, that the harsher and meaner you are to trespassers the less recurrences there will be with them. If they believe you are insane, they will be afraid to come onto your property.

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#1860977 - 03/28/10 10:00 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: rem270]
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If its during the season we will leave a note telling them that they have so many days to remove the stand. After the time period is up and the stand is not removed we will leave a note on the tree telling them that they can claim their stand from the local sheriffs department. Never had anyone go and claim a stand although we have had a few nasty notes in return. The way I see it if they are brave enough to trespass then they ought to be brave enough to go claim their stand.
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#1861039 - 03/28/10 10:41 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I take them to the police station, and leave a note on the tree telling them where they can pick them up. If they are wooden, I burn them right there, or saw them to pieces. The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

I have found over the years, as wrong as it may seem, that the harsher and meaner you are to trespassers the less recurrences there will be with them. If they believe you are insane, they will be afraid to come onto your property.


Thats pretty sorry to do to a kid.I know they were not allowed on the land but there was no reason to do that to a kid.Can't believe you would get on here and brag about it.

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#1861058 - 03/28/10 11:06 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: RAFI]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I take them to the police station, and leave a note on the tree telling them where they can pick them up. If they are wooden, I burn them right there, or saw them to pieces. The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

I have found over the years, as wrong as it may seem, that the harsher and meaner you are to trespassers the less recurrences there will be with them. If they believe you are insane, they will be afraid to come onto your property.


Thats pretty sorry to do to a kid.I know they were not allowed on the land but there was no reason to do that to a kid.Can't believe you would get on here and brag about it.


i don't think so. i hope it taught him a lesson.
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#1861062 - 03/28/10 11:11 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: landman]
ShaneHallum
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Id have me another stand. plain and simple
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#1861082 - 03/28/10 11:41 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: stik]
RAFI
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I take them to the police station, and leave a note on the tree telling them where they can pick them up. If they are wooden, I burn them right there, or saw them to pieces. The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

I have found over the years, as wrong as it may seem, that the harsher and meaner you are to trespassers the less recurrences there will be with them. If they believe you are insane, they will be afraid to come onto your property.


Thats pretty sorry to do to a kid.I know they were not allowed on the land but there was no reason to do that to a kid.Can't believe you would get on here and brag about it.


i don't think so. i hope it taught him a lesson.


It was not the kids fault it was the dads.He should have pulled the dad aside and done what ever he was going to do.The kid might not of known he was even doing anything wrong.Besides he should have called a GW to handle it instead of trying to act big and bad because they had the kid and father out numbered.Something tells me if he had been alone and walked up on two adults he would have handled it a little different.

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#1861092 - 03/28/10 11:53 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: RAFI]
stik
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the kid would grow up to be a poacher/trespasser just like his dad. life's lessons are rough sometimes.
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#1861119 - 03/29/10 05:48 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: RAFI]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I take them to the police station, and leave a note on the tree telling them where they can pick them up. If they are wooden, I burn them right there, or saw them to pieces. The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

I have found over the years, as wrong as it may seem, that the harsher and meaner you are to trespassers the less recurrences there will be with them. If they believe you are insane, they will be afraid to come onto your property.


Thats pretty sorry to do to a kid.I know they were not allowed on the land but there was no reason to do that to a kid.Can't believe you would get on here and brag about it.


We have to teach our kids the proper way to hunt, allowing them to poach is not the way we pass on the future of our sport. The folks who know me, and live near my land know that if they came to me and asked if they could take their kid during youth hunts, I would say no problem. So when people take advantage of my generosity I play hardball.

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#1861123 - 03/29/10 05:50 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: RAFI]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I take them to the police station, and leave a note on the tree telling them where they can pick them up. If they are wooden, I burn them right there, or saw them to pieces. The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

I have found over the years, as wrong as it may seem, that the harsher and meaner you are to trespassers the less recurrences there will be with them. If they believe you are insane, they will be afraid to come onto your property.


Thats pretty sorry to do to a kid.I know they were not allowed on the land but there was no reason to do that to a kid.Can't believe you would get on here and brag about it.


i don't think so. i hope it taught him a lesson.


It was not the kids fault it was the dads.He should have pulled the dad aside and done what ever he was going to do.The kid might not of known he was even doing anything wrong.Besides he should have called a GW to handle it instead of trying to act big and bad because they had the kid and father out numbered.Something tells me if he had been alone and walked up on two adults he would have handled it a little different.


Not at all, I was born partly stupid. I am not afraid of anyone, and certainly not afraid to confront someone who is poaching property I worked dam hard to buy, and work dam hard to manage. Zero tolerance is the only way to keep it under control.

If you came home and someone was in your backyard how would react?

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#1861171 - 03/29/10 06:54 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: archer19]
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If it's only about 25 yds from the property line. I'd probably drag it over to his side and just leave it. But wouldn't blame you for "confiscating" it, as I would consider doing it too, being the second one I had found. ;\)
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#1861197 - 03/29/10 07:16 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: landman]
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I would try and do the same thing that you did with the buddy stand, if no response its yours IMO
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#1861214 - 03/29/10 07:34 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: BigWes50]
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loosen the top steps...jk
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#1861283 - 03/29/10 09:02 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: BoneHead1]
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If I was on someones land by mistake and it would be a mistake. No one would destroy my tree stand. We would call game warden pay fine etc.. if need be.
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#1861326 - 03/29/10 09:26 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: turkeyhunter]
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For Sale old deer stand needs seat.
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#1861396 - 03/29/10 10:10 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: landman]
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keep it
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#1862328 - 03/29/10 08:22 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: guthooked]
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I have an uncle that has been farming for several years now. I asked him years ago why he didn't POST his property. He told me that most people will do what they want to do regardless of whether the property is posted or not. Especially if it is out in BFE. He would prefer to leave it unposted rather than fixing fences or gates all the time. A lot of it has to do with trust and responsibility for others. I can say that the 15 years he owned 200 acres of good bottom land on the Duck River in Hickman county, he never had problems with fences, destroyed crops etc...He says that posted property can infuriate the wrong person to do things they shouldn't. That is his reasoning.
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#1862560 - 03/29/10 10:23 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: landman]
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Put it back up on the tree, chain it (with your lock), and hunt out of it. If he comes to get in it while you are in it you can tell him what you think of him.
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#1862637 - 03/29/10 11:07 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: KennyDale]
jakeway
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I've found a couple on our lease. I put a very conspicuous plastic bag with a note asking them to remove the stand. If the stand is still there at end of season the stand will be removed and re-used elsewhere.

The first couple times it was never touched all year. The second two stands, the landowner told me he hadn't given anyone else permission, but a week late he called and said the stands belonged to a neighbor, that he had forgotten he'd given permission to. I'm glad I hadn't removed the stands right away.

Obviously, if you own the land, there wouldn't be this mistake. But if you are leasing it, and the landowner isn't a hunter, misunderstandings like this can happen.
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#1862935 - 03/30/10 08:57 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

What you did was illegal. Two wrongs do not make a right. You destroyed someones personal property. I have very little patience with trespassers also but I make sure I handle things in a responsible adult manner. If you have every turned around in someones private drive then you to are a trespasser. Does that mean you should have had your truck crushed?

If I was to find a tree stand now with season closed I would simply call the game warden explain it looks to have been left for a long time and ask what I can do with it.
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#1864297 - 03/31/10 06:00 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: DWM]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: DWM
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

What you did was illegal. Two wrongs do not make a right. You destroyed someones personal property. I have very little patience with trespassers also but I make sure I handle things in a responsible adult manner. If you have every turned around in someones private drive then you to are a trespasser. Does that mean you should have had your truck crushed?

If I was to find a tree stand now with season closed I would simply call the game warden explain it looks to have been left for a long time and ask what I can do with it.


Illegal? Not so sure about that, property used/left on my property. I think the armed trespassing charges trump anything related to destroying the treestand, BTW it wasn't totally destroyed, just unusable to hunt out of anymore.

Trying to compare turning around in someones drive way to poaching deer off of someone else property is hilarious. I would do it again tomorrow if the need arised, and never think twice about it. Would you rather me shoot them dead? After all I could have been afraid for my life and was just protecting myself since they pointed a rifle at me....

Zero tolerance is the only way to deal with trash hunters, and establishing a firm understanding that you don't screw around helps keep issues from reoccurring.

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#1864496 - 03/31/10 08:45 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: DWM]
Gray Ghost
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 Originally Posted By: DWM
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

What you did was illegal. Two wrongs do not make a right. You destroyed someones personal property. I have very little patience with trespassers also but I make sure I handle things in a responsible adult manner. If you have every turned around in someones private drive then you to are a trespasser. Does that mean you should have had your truck crushed?

If I was to find a tree stand now with season closed I would simply call the game warden explain it looks to have been left for a long time and ask what I can do with it.


Sorry but this is preposterous.
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#1864638 - 03/31/10 10:06 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Gray Ghost]
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life is tough and it is even tougher when you are stupid. Most of the time they know they are doing wrong. It is a tough lesson. Keep the stand! If they think they are right they will try to find out where it went.
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#1866285 - 03/31/10 10:37 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: DWM
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

What you did was illegal. Two wrongs do not make a right. You destroyed someones personal property. I have very little patience with trespassers also but I make sure I handle things in a responsible adult manner. If you have every turned around in someones private drive then you to are a trespasser. Does that mean you should have had your truck crushed?

If I was to find a tree stand now with season closed I would simply call the game warden explain it looks to have been left for a long time and ask what I can do with it.


Illegal? Not so sure about that, property used/left on my property. I think the armed trespassing charges trump anything related to destroying the treestand, BTW it wasn't totally destroyed, just unusable to hunt out of anymore.

Trying to compare turning around in someones drive way to poaching deer off of someone else property is hilarious. I would do it again tomorrow if the need arised, and never think twice about it. Would you rather me shoot them dead? After all I could have been afraid for my life and was just protecting myself since they pointed a rifle at me....

Zero tolerance is the only way to deal with trash hunters, and establishing a firm understanding that you don't screw around helps keep issues from reoccurring.


2 wrongs , never add up to being right!!!!
leave a note, if it stays very long, then move it or use it.
And destroying some one else property is against the law, the trespass charge is also against the law, but neither "trumps" the other.
Both are wrong.

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#1866301 - 03/31/10 10:46 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: budro2]
Bertman
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How much do you want for the stand?
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#1866359 - 04/01/10 01:13 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: landman]
baller_9
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Leave a note on the stand explaining they are on your property and must take the stand down immediately. Leave your number as well if they need to know where the lines actually are. If you take their stand and they think they had some right to hunt there they may decide to steal all your stands as well. That’s why I take the note approach and give them one chance.
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#1866520 - 04/01/10 07:37 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
DWM
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 Originally Posted By: DWM
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

What you did was illegal. Two wrongs do not make a right. You destroyed someones personal property. I have very little patience with trespassers also but I make sure I handle things in a responsible adult manner. If you have every turned around in someones private drive then you to are a trespasser. Does that mean you should have had your truck crushed?

If I was to find a tree stand now with season closed I would simply call the game warden explain it looks to have been left for a long time and ask what I can do with it.


 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Illegal? Not so sure about that,
Yes illegal! If your not sure then maybe you should check.

 Originally Posted By: Setterman
BTW it wasn't totally destroyed, just unusable to hunt out of anymore.
Thanks for clearing that up because I always thought unusable was the same as destroyed.

 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Trying to compare turning around in someones drive way to poaching deer off of someone else property is hilarious.
That was an exaggeration to try to get a point across to you but guess it went over your head.

 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Would you rather me shoot them dead? After all I could have been afraid for my life and was just protecting myself since they pointed a rifle at me....
You previously stated you was afraid of no one. Now you are saying that your second option would be to make up a lie and shoot a father and son for hunting without permission. I guess you would have shot the boy first because he was the one with the gun being it was juvenile season. I think I know all I need to know about you. May God Bless

 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Zero tolerance is the only way to deal with trash hunters
As far as zero tolerance goes, that would have been to call the law and take legal action. It can be more effective without stooping to their level. You said yourself when you spoke of calling GW they quickly left.
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home
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#1866576 - 04/01/10 08:02 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

I have found over the years, as wrong as it may seem, that the harsher and meaner you are to trespassers the less recurrences there will be with them. If they believe you are insane, they will be afraid to come onto your property.

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The problem with that approach as a first time response is that sooner or later you are bound to run into someone a little badder than you, and you will pay a heavy price for such a heavy-handed approach. Believe me, not everyone is afraid of having the 'law' called on them. Because of my job I deal with some baddest boys I've ever seen, and many of them carry shovels in their trucks... just to hide any problems that they might have to 'fix'.
I DO understand your frustration, but just know that there ARE people out there that will NOT tolerate that type of behaviour, even if they are in the wrong.
If you have family that depend on you for their living/existence, you also have to think about them when you approach a situation like this. Is it worth leaving kids without a father, or a wife without a husband? To me, the answer would be 'no'. It's not worth it to chase off a couple of trespaasers/hunters when there are far better ways to deal with that situation.
I'm just saying...


Edited by BlackBelt (04/01/10 08:08 AM)

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#1868036 - 04/01/10 09:53 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: BlackBelt]
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 Originally Posted By: BlackBelt
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.
I have found over the years, as wrong as it may seem, that the harsher and meaner you are to trespassers the less recurrences there will be with them. If they believe you are insane, they will be afraid to come onto your property.

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The problem with that approach as a first time response is that sooner or later you are bound to run into someone a little badder than you, and you will pay a heavy price for such a heavy-handed approach. Believe me, not everyone is afraid of having the 'law' called on them. Because of my job I deal with some baddest boys I've ever seen, and many of them carry shovels in their trucks... just to hide any problems that they might have to 'fix'.
I DO understand your frustration, but just know that there ARE people out there that will NOT tolerate that type of behaviour, even if they are in the wrong.
If you have family that depend on you for their living/existence, you also have to think about them when you approach a situation like this. Is it worth leaving kids without a father, or a wife without a husband? To me, the answer would be 'no'. It's not worth it to chase off a couple of trespaasers/hunters when there are far better ways to deal with that situation.
I'm just saying...


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#1868853 - 04/02/10 05:35 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: budro2]
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golly setterman you must be a real bad man, was you and youre buddy armed
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#1869057 - 04/02/10 08:33 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: jakerri]
Setterman
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Here the last I am going to say on this subject and what I did in to a sorry no good piece of trash's treestand. My property is unbelievably posted that Stevie Wonder would know when he crossed the property line. It is ringed by a 2 strand 3 foot tall high tension wire fence, there is a posted and patrolled sign every 15 feet for the entire boundary as well and a road cut just inside the fence that is maintained as clean dirt so I can see boot prints.

So the piece of white trash, knew he was over the line, and knew I was serious. Yet, he still chose to push the envelope and teach his child how to be a slob hunter. Just what we need is more slob hunters.

I would do the same thing tomorrow if it came to it, and yes I carry a pistol at all times, when not at work. But it is in my truck during business. I would also, not even hesitate to put someone in their grave if they even remotely threatened me on property that I paid for, that I pay property taxes on each year, and that I pay to maintain annually. If that makes me a bad guy, then so be it, but I am not some cowering sissy who will back down one inch from some no good poacher, and certainly not when they are doing kids a disservice.

My name and number is clearly marked on my posted signs, and if the guy had the gumption to pick up the phone I would have gladly let him take his son during juvi days. However, he chose to poach, and it cost him a stand and his pride.

Maybe those who wish to cast stones at me, don't own any land, have never dealt with trash poachers, or are afraid to stand up to another man when necessary. Whatever the case may be, that is the way it is when it comes to my property. I don't work all week long to pay for something, so that others can sneak in and steal from me.

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#1869104 - 04/02/10 09:19 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
budro2
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Here the last I am going to say on this subject and what I did in to a sorry no good piece of trash's treestand. My property is unbelievably posted that Stevie Wonder would know when he crossed the property line. It is ringed by a 2 strand 3 foot tall high tension wire fence, there is a posted and patrolled sign every 15 feet for the entire boundary as well and a road cut just inside the fence that is maintained as clean dirt so I can see boot prints.

So the piece of white trash, knew he was over the line, and knew I was serious. Yet, he still chose to push the envelope and teach his child how to be a slob hunter. Just what we need is more slob hunters.

I would do the same thing tomorrow if it came to it, and yes I carry a pistol at all times, when not at work. But it is in my truck during business. I would also, not even hesitate to put someone in their grave if they even remotely threatened me on property that I paid for, that I pay property taxes on each year, and that I pay to maintain annually. If that makes me a bad guy, then so be it, but I am not some cowering sissy who will back down one inch from some no good poacher, and certainly not when they are doing kids a disservice.

My name and number is clearly marked on my posted signs, and if the guy had the gumption to pick up the phone I would have gladly let him take his son during juvi days. However, he chose to poach, and it cost him a stand and his pride.

Maybe those who wish to cast stones at me, don't own any land, have never dealt with trash poachers, or are afraid to stand up to another man when necessary. Whatever the case may be, that is the way it is when it comes to my property. I don't work all week long to pay for something, so that others can sneak in and steal from me.


Who going to hunt your ground when you are in jail? Be hard for a lawyer to defend you with all you have said on here,If you truly think it is justified to take a human life over trespassing.
If the guy with the stand had the same attitude as you, then one of ya'll would probably be dead now. Not judging you, just hoping you might re think some of your positions.

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#1869404 - 04/03/10 03:42 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: budro2]
Setterman
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A simple trespass issue would not end with me killing someone, but him threatening my life with a weapon would. That would also not be illegal, that is self defense.

Also, I forgot to add, if he or anyone wished to challenge me on the destruction of the treestand. Go ahead sue me....

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#1869489 - 04/03/10 08:27 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Here the last I am going to say on this subject and what I did in to a sorry no good piece of trash's treestand. My property is unbelievably posted that Stevie Wonder would know when he crossed the property line. It is ringed by a 2 strand 3 foot tall high tension wire fence, there is a posted and patrolled sign every 15 feet for the entire boundary as well and a road cut just inside the fence that is maintained as clean dirt so I can see boot prints.

So the piece of white trash, knew he was over the line, and knew I was serious. Yet, he still chose to push the envelope and teach his child how to be a slob hunter. Just what we need is more slob hunters.



Setterman,from what I am reading in your posts ,you are extremly paranoid,and confrontational,and hotheaded.That does not make a good combonation when dealing with a situation such as you had.
If I had been at the scene YOU would have gone to jail,plus pay for the damaged tree stand, and the tresspassers would have gotten a ticket or a warning.. Think about that Sir..


Edited by IceMann (04/03/10 08:28 AM)
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#1869768 - 04/03/10 02:45 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: IceMann]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: IceMann
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Here the last I am going to say on this subject and what I did in to a sorry no good piece of trash's treestand. My property is unbelievably posted that Stevie Wonder would know when he crossed the property line. It is ringed by a 2 strand 3 foot tall high tension wire fence, there is a posted and patrolled sign every 15 feet for the entire boundary as well and a road cut just inside the fence that is maintained as clean dirt so I can see boot prints.

So the piece of white trash, knew he was over the line, and knew I was serious. Yet, he still chose to push the envelope and teach his child how to be a slob hunter. Just what we need is more slob hunters.



Setterman,from what I am reading in your posts ,you are extremly paranoid,and confrontational,and hotheaded.That does not make a good combonation when dealing with a situation such as you had.
If I had been at the scene YOU would have gone to jail,plus pay for the damaged tree stand, and the tresspassers would have gotten a ticket or a warning.. Think about that Sir..


I hope you are not pretending to be a law enforcement officer. Because you would have no grounds to take me to jail. Sure the guy could have sued me for destroying his treestand, but there was no jailable offense committed. Of course any crooked cop could take a person to jail for any reason at all, only for them to be released later.

You need to read your handbook and the laws of this state, armed trespassing is a serious offense in TN. It can result it in 11/29 if convicted. Destroying the treestand, would be simple destruction of property, however in court since that property was on my property it would more then likely get thrown out.

Now if things escalated and I pulled a gun on the guy, I could be held for reckless endangerment, however, seeing how they were armed, and on my property, once again I win.

See this all goes back to it being on MYproperty, not just randomly out in the country. I certainly hope you aren't a LEO. Go read the case from 4 or 5 years ago where a genetlemen shot 2 guys dead for riding ATV's on his property. He was released after 1 hour, and the courts found him not guilty on all counts in both civil and criminal trials. Why? It was on his property, no different then breaking something some owns that is found in your home.


Edited by Setterman (04/03/10 02:47 PM)

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#1870109 - 04/03/10 08:17 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: IceMann]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: IceMann
(I hope you are not pretending to be a law enforcement officer. Because you would have no grounds to take me to jail. Sure the guy could have sued me for destroying his treestand, but there was no jailable offense committed. Of course any crooked cop could take a person to jail for any reason at all, only for them to be released later. )

I dont pretend to be any body,I am not a crooked cop,and you seriously need to get a grip.Destruction of private property IS a jailable offense,Whether its a 50.00 treestand,or a 1000.00 treestand..
The guy who killed the people on the atvs that were tresspassing is now serving life in prison,and almost got the death penalty.
I have no interest in discussing this thing that happened to you, just trying to give you some real life facts to save you a lot of possable jail time if you injured these people ,not to count the lawsuitsyou would face.I am not taking up for any tresspassers,but thats all I will say on this..


You need to research the ATV cases, there have been two in the last couple of years that I know of, one in AL. Where the guy did get hammered, because it was premeditated. The other was here, and he was found innocent on all counts, and both civil/criminal cases were ruled in his favor.

On the destruction of private property, you are so wrong it is hilarious. Once property is placed in a permanent manner on another property it becomes the property of the landowner. Especially when it is done under illegal terms. I have friends in high places that know a heck of a lot more about the laws in this state then myself, and obviously you.

As I said earlier, I am through with this topic, and would do the exact same thing tomorrow if pushed to do so.

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#1870195 - 04/03/10 08:58 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
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Ya'll should get a room. \:\)
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#1873574 - 04/05/10 11:29 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Football Hunter]
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ok thats enough --- dont kill them --- instead just kidnap em' lol \:\)

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#1873643 - 04/06/10 06:23 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: BlackBelt]
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Take a dump in it!
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#1874856 - 04/06/10 08:24 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Longhunter]
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Nobody is really a landowner. You are just leasing or renting it until the govt wants it for some reason. Taxes = rent payment, So the treestand actually belonged to Obama.
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#1875076 - 04/06/10 10:21 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: archer19]
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to a certian extent, as a private property owner, a person has to develope a "Hitler" attitude, being nice just does not work anymore. been there done that, 3 years of being nice just got me more headaches, Hitler works better, after a short time span word of mouth will be a persons best asset
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#1875137 - 04/06/10 10:56 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Chaneylake]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: Chaneylake
to a certian extent, as a private property owner, a person has to develope a "Hitler" attitude, being nice just does not work anymore. been there done that, 3 years of being nice just got me more headaches, Hitler works better, after a short time span word of mouth will be a persons best asset


Exactly, I chose more of a Mao approach \:\)

Folks will steam roll you if you give them half a chance, and I don't give them that chance. Zero tolerance, no BS is the only way to keep what is yours....yours.

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#1875212 - 04/07/10 05:56 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
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I have to agree with you two Chaney and Setterman. Those meth head trespassers don't understand "please" and "thank you". ;\)
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#1875289 - 04/07/10 06:48 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: MUP]
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As my grandfather would remind me,"we don't own the land, the land owns us! It will be here long after we pass. Just care for it as we would ourselves and our childern".
Talk with the guy. Determine if it was a mistake. Then set limits. Ask to hunt his land. If you take a bigger buck on his side. He might rethink his choice stand placement.


Edited by Mountian Man_TN (04/07/10 06:52 AM)
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#1875295 - 04/07/10 06:53 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: IceMann]
richmanbarbeque
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 Originally Posted By: IceMann
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Here the last I am going to say on this subject and what I did in to a sorry no good piece of trash's treestand. My property is unbelievably posted that Stevie Wonder would know when he crossed the property line. It is ringed by a 2 strand 3 foot tall high tension wire fence, there is a posted and patrolled sign every 15 feet for the entire boundary as well and a road cut just inside the fence that is maintained as clean dirt so I can see boot prints.

So the piece of white trash, knew he was over the line, and knew I was serious. Yet, he still chose to push the envelope and teach his child how to be a slob hunter. Just what we need is more slob hunters.



Setterman,from what I am reading in your posts ,you are extremly paranoid,and confrontational,and hotheaded.That does not make a good combonation when dealing with a situation such as you had.
If I had been at the scene YOU would have gone to jail,plus pay for the damaged tree stand, and the tresspassers would have gotten a ticket or a warning.. Think about that Sir..


This really funny from a guy who about went a-wall on trespassers last year.

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#1875634 - 04/07/10 11:45 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: richmanbarbeque]
Setterman
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 Originally Posted By: richmanbarbeque
 Originally Posted By: IceMann
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
Here the last I am going to say on this subject and what I did in to a sorry no good piece of trash's treestand. My property is unbelievably posted that Stevie Wonder would know when he crossed the property line. It is ringed by a 2 strand 3 foot tall high tension wire fence, there is a posted and patrolled sign every 15 feet for the entire boundary as well and a road cut just inside the fence that is maintained as clean dirt so I can see boot prints.

So the piece of white trash, knew he was over the line, and knew I was serious. Yet, he still chose to push the envelope and teach his child how to be a slob hunter. Just what we need is more slob hunters.



Setterman,from what I am reading in your posts ,you are extremly paranoid,and confrontational,and hotheaded.That does not make a good combonation when dealing with a situation such as you had.
If I had been at the scene YOU would have gone to jail,plus pay for the damaged tree stand, and the tresspassers would have gotten a ticket or a warning.. Think about that Sir..


This really funny from a guy who about went a-wall on trespassers last year.


Missed that one, unless you are referring to me which I do not think you are.

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#1875654 - 04/07/10 12:04 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
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Lol. Setterman, you are no better than the person who stepped foot on your property. You taught the kid just as bad of a lesson as the moron dad. Maybe instead of reading all those law books you should try reading THE LAW BOOK, and read about how a great man dealt with bad situations. JMHO

Edited by bowhunterfanatic (04/07/10 12:08 PM)

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#1875795 - 04/07/10 02:16 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
WestTn Huntin'man
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
I take them to the police station, and leave a note on the tree telling them where they can pick them up. If they are wooden, I burn them right there, or saw them to pieces. The worst thing i have ever done by far in my life, was 2 years ago. On opening day of youth season, I found Bubba and Bubba Jr. in their newly installed 2 man stand on my property. I made them climb down and watch me destroy their stand by bending the ladder portion around a tree with help from a buddy of mine, and then stomping the seat off of it. When I informed them the next step was the GW coming, they quickly picked up the pieces and went home, never to return again.

I have found over the years, as wrong as it may seem, that the harsher and meaner you are to trespassers the less recurrences there will be with them. If they believe you are insane, they will be afraid to come onto your property.

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#1875805 - 04/07/10 02:46 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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i think some 9 volt battery mechanical ambush claymores with tripwires and a plastic spoon between the circut wires, placed on your groomed foot print road and in some trees also might just do the trick

go all out man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jk.......

i dont care much for trespassing poachers either
i have planted my share of jb welded rock spikes in water filled ruts for 4 wheelers and in other places that have slow approaches in the past and it put a stop to them and hit them i imagine pretty expensively in the wallet also, the other sweet thing abot jb weld rock spikes is the 4 wheeling tresspasser has to make a decision to either pull it out of his tire then and their and go flat or drive back to whereever going thump , thump , thump and still has to pull it out eventually



get a split in half round creek rock
jb weld 1 sharpened spike and 2 large roofing nails on either side of it and the flat side of the rock and put in water filled ruts and places where they ride and dont dismount on slow approaches

1 in 1 side of a water rut and then another about 10 ft on the other side is a really good





just some advice for people with 4 wheeler problems
you dont wanna hurt anyone except for their wallets and 4 wheeler tires are expensive
just set up a problem and decision making process for someone when the gift for them happens

i actually could hear people swearing up a storm on the place i did this from my back porch about 400 yards away
it was pretty funny to say the least and after about 3 weekends of them encountering presents they stopped riding out their for good


Edited by T32MD (04/07/10 02:47 PM)
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#1876550 - 04/07/10 09:35 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: renegade50]
Setterman
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bowhunterfanatic- I would do it tomorrow again, without hesitation. I would rather the kid get a stern reality check, then a slap on the wrist. Same thing plagues our youths now, no one fails or gets whipped, they just get a slap on the hand or a passing grade. Total BS, life is cruel, especially when you don't follow the law.

Westtnhuntinman- What is wrong with setting a firm example which won't soon be forgotten? You all for slaps on the wrist for poachers as well?

T32MD- I prefer the plywood with nails driven through buried in the dirt. It works well. Had some punks several years ago using my place as a moto track. Great thing about 4 flat tires, is that they get to come retrieve their ATV's from the police office that lives down the street. It is easy for me to winch them right up on a trailer and drop them off at his house.

Maybe you all that don't own a piece of hunting ground aren't getting the picture. It pays to be firm, but be nice when someone comes and asks.

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#1876660 - 04/07/10 10:58 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: Setterman]
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I agree with much of that. Too many kids get a free pass, a slap on the wrist, but you also were breaking the law sir. If you would have just gone a-wall on the dad, I could definitely understand, but I doubt the kid knew he was doing wrong. His dad probably told him it was ok to be there.

I also own some seperate pieces of hunting property. I have witnessed a couple poaching acts that I still have trouble believing I saw. Granted, I'm still pretty young, and was by myself, but I didn't go crazy on the guys. I made sure they knew I was serious though, and haven't had any trouble from them since.

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#1876718 - 04/08/10 05:56 AM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: bowhunterfanatic]
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The kid knows he was in the wrong now for sure. ;\)
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#1880986 - 04/11/10 09:20 PM Re: deerstand on my property. what woud you do [Re: landman]
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Landman, pretty good idea!
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