#1857835 - 03/26/10 10:30 PM
Re: A Rare Serious Post From Me...
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I guess many people are "serious" about their hobby or sport, no
matter what it might be. I guess another question might be, are
people who are "serious" about their sport or hobby, more
sucsessful than those who aren't.
I do know in the business world, there are more sucsessful
people......that are "serious".
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#1857926 - 03/27/10 01:57 AM
Re: A Rare Serious Post From Me...
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Cuttin Caller hit it dead on. Some people take it so seriously they worry about everything to the extent they don't enjoy it. Life is too short to take much of anything seriously. I have had a few things in my life I have taken very seriously. Hunting has never been one of them nor has fishing nor has money. Jeff Coggins once said . Get a life. It is just hunting." My sentiments exactly
My friend who is dying rapidly and I shared a great laugh the other day about a very serious subject. She said it was the best she had felt in several days. I can't tell the story because it would get me banned but the laugh came about because we didn't take a particular doctor seriously. The line that broke us up was when she said, "Oh who the 7890 cares you geek."
Now you can't compare that to what scent you use. But you can worry about some really mundane aspects of hunting to the extent you worry more than you enjoy. I see it every year and I see it on here. The greatest joy and satisfaction in hunting is getting your butt out in the woods and learning about nature. How can you do that if you worry about how fast your bow is or are you shooting the right bullet or if you have the right call.
I'm going through some terrible stuff right now but I'm not going to take it seriously. I hope I can hunt a little next year. I'm sure going to try. But you can bet I won't be worrying about what call to use or why a deer crossed the fence where he did. I sure don't care what the buck limit is or our soil content. That to me is not serious.
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#1858108 - 03/27/10 09:38 AM
Re: A Rare Serious Post From Me...
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Bottom Hunter
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Bowriter, I understand the seriousness of this post. No really I know exactly what you mean for a change.
I have hunted with some folks that took hunting to serious and I never had any fun. I can remember how someone use to try to make me take it serious and it drove me away from the woods for a long time.
I want to have fun when I hunt. Is that serious?
i have nothing against casual deer hunters. Those that go opening weekend of gun and maybe a few more weekends throughout the season. they call themsleves deer hunters aznd Iguess they are. The SERIOUS deer hunter puts forth far more time and effort and has set goals for himself or herself.
With that being said......IMO, individuals determine the quality of the experience. I'll explain.
Too many people define success with a DEER KILL or a LIMIT of something. I do not.
Too many people are not just happy to get out there and experience the world through hunting. I am.
I guess you could say that what I take seriuos about hunting is taking in all that's there for me to enjoy and not squandering the precious time that I make for hunting.
I could go out in any field , sit there and say that I'm deer hunting. But I would not enjoy that. Just like I would not enjoy going to a famous steak house and ordering a salad.
To me, to squander this precious gift of hunting is much like ignoring a gift from God. To me, to NOT give it 100% every season is sacrilege.
At the end of each season, I look back and check myself, much like I'm grading myself. the two main things that I look at are ...DID I PUT FORTH THE EFFORT? and DID I LEARN SOMETHING?. If I can honestly answer YES to both questions, then my season was a success, regardless of the kill total....notice that one of my questions was not "DID YOU HAVE FUN". The reason for that is simple. Just like I don't have to define a ride in the country as a GOOD RIDE because they all are and don't have to describe a particular year in my life as GOOD because there's some GOOD in everything, then i don't have to describe hunting as FUN or GOOD because I've never even thought about it as anything but FUN and GOOD.
When I finally retire from deer hunting, I don't want to be sitting at home one day and think that I didn't take full advantage of this gift.....
In my heart, a true hunter and sportsman has the ability to accept what God has given him and take full advantage of it. To do any less would be somewhat wasteful, IMO. You may see things differently in that you may only care to be out there and are satisfied with any experience that you receive, but not me. I want EVERY experience I can . I want to be the best deer hunter that I can and IMO what goes along with that is hard work and preparation.
I guess I can liken it to working. If you do a job and get paid , but you know that you didn't put forth the effort that you should, do you feel the same degree of satisfaction? I do not, but some people do...because all they want to do is get paid just like all some hunters want is to kill a deer, the easier the better.
If deer hunting was EASY, (the way i approach it)I may indeed not feel this way. Some might think that after 37 years i couldn't learn anymore, but I assure you taht is not true.
Deer hunting to the serious ones among us is an unending classroom and my hunger for that knowledge has never wained in all these years....That is why I take deer hunting seriously....
BH
Edited by Bottom Hunter (03/27/10 09:57 AM)
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#1858128 - 03/27/10 09:54 AM
Re: A Rare Serious Post From Me...
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I have hunted with some folks that took hunting to serious and I never had any fun.
I have seen that happen. I've seen clubs set so many "management" rules in an effort towards "success" in their goals that hunting isn't fun. Everyone is too worried about making a mistake.
In addition, earlier in my hunting career I was so driven towards particular goals that acheiving a goal felt more like "relief" instead of a thrill in acheivement. Kind of like college football coaches who say they don't feel joy in winning, only relief in not losing.
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#1858206 - 03/27/10 11:24 AM
Re: A Rare Serious Post From Me...
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Mike Belt
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...just to touch on clubs and management rules...
I hunt at Ames. We have alot of land and alot of deer. We also have alot of rules. Although I don't agree with all of them I abide by them. With the exception of shooting does there is never a day I go hunting that I have the freedom of just deciding to shoot any buck that walks by just because I want to. In fact, there are quite a few bucks I have let pass that I otherwise might have taken if it had not been for the fear factor involved of them not measuring up. That single minimum inch rule has resulted in a tendancy to underscore them on the hoof. I sometimes catch myself questioning the fun factor when at the same time that worry factor is present....and I pay good money to experience those mixed feelings. However, the reason I'm there in the first place is because those rules allow for the buck segment of the population the opportunity at attaining age...which is generally proportionate to headgear as well. Comparatively, I've seen a world of bucks the size and age that I would never see on properties with indiscriminate shooting but like a cloud hanging overhead, I have to weigh that against the total freedom of hunting with no restrictions. The jury is still out for the long run but meanwhile I sure get fired up having 8 or 10 2.5-4.5 year olds bucks running does around under my stand.
Edited by Mike Belt (03/27/10 11:24 AM)
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#1858358 - 03/27/10 02:18 PM
Re: A Rare Serious Post From Me...
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BSK- That is what I am trying to convey. We worry so much about one thing, we lose sight of why we hunt. Management is serious business. Hunting is a vital part of management. But hunting, in and of itself should not be serious. It should be fun. It should be recreation.
I have been in hunting capms where som guy would sit up all night worrying the wind direction. What was he going to do about it? That is a true story.
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#1858368 - 03/27/10 02:24 PM
Re: A Rare Serious Post From Me...
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But hunting, in and of itself should not be serious. It should be fun. It should be recreation.
I couldn't agree more and something very "serious" hunters need to be reminded of from time to time.
I have been in hunting capms where som guy would sit up all night worrying the wind direction. What was he going to do about it? That is a true story.
I remember the years of worrying myself sick over whether it would be a good acorn crop, or if the calendar hunting dates were going to fall during the peak of the rut, and whether the weather would be perfect during hunts, etc. Now I just accept that good conditions/timing or bad, I'm going hunting and I'm going to enjoy the experience.
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#1858453 - 03/27/10 03:20 PM
Re: A Rare Serious Post From Me...
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bowriter
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Exactly. I think it may be called maturity.
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#1858460 - 03/27/10 03:29 PM
Re: A Rare Serious Post From Me...
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BH-Give this some serious thought. Are you Serious about hunting or gaining knowledge? Is your season a success if you learned something and a disaster if you didn't kill a "trophy" buck? Are you at peace just to walk iin the woods or do you have to carry a weapon?
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#1858871 - 03/27/10 08:57 PM
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But hunting, in and of itself should not be serious. It should be fun. It should be recreation. I couldn't agree more and something very "serious" hunters need to be reminded of from time to time. I have been in hunting capms where som guy would sit up all night worrying the wind direction. What was he going to do about it? That is a true story. I remember the years of worrying myself sick over whether it would be a good acorn crop, or if the calendar hunting dates were going to fall during the peak of the rut, and whether the weather would be perfect during hunts, etc. Now I just accept that good conditions/timing or bad, I'm going hunting and I'm going to enjoy the experience.
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