#1847023 - 03/20/10 08:46 PM
161 acre lease $400 per x 4 people too high?
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HuntingDicksonDTC
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Got a call today from land owner. I have been hunting this land for 7 years now - up to this point only done some upkeep on the house & keep an eye on it as she lives out of state. As with everyone times are hard & she wants to lease the land to about 4 people she wants $400 per person on 161 acres seems a little high. its Humphreys county. Has been logged a couple years ago. Have not seen the number of deer the last couple of years that i saw in the beginning. & has been several years since i have seen any turkeys.
on the fence about the price as it will be $800 on my end for me & my son. & he is in college & does not go hunting much
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#1847031 - 03/20/10 08:56 PM
Re: 161 acre lease $400 per x 4 people too high?
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OUCH...That is like 10 bucks/acre. Not sure what land is going for there but that is high really high for around here. (white county)
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#1847066 - 03/20/10 09:29 PM
Re: 161 acre lease $400 per x 4 people too high?
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That does sound sort of expensive. On the other hand, if you don't have another place to hunt it might be the difference between hunting and thinking about hunting.
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#1847111 - 03/20/10 10:29 PM
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I pay 800 for 120 in hickman county. he wanted to go up on me to 1200 this year. I told him I appreciated him leasing it to me but, I would have to let it go. A few days later he called and said if I wanted it for the same price it was mine. He said, the cost of a paper ad and him having to go show it wasn't worth the increase, since he already knew me and the way I treated his land.
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#1847112 - 03/20/10 10:30 PM
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For that money better be lots of critters. We hunt 2500 acres for $750per person.
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#1847120 - 03/20/10 10:35 PM
Re: 161 acre lease $400 per x 4 people too high?
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For that money better be lots of critters. We hunt 2500 acres for $750per person.
how many people hunt it
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#1847125 - 03/20/10 10:38 PM
Re: 161 acre lease $400 per x 4 people too high?
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Our club leases land for $5.50 to $6.50 an ac. and yes there are a lot of critters there.
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#1847126 - 03/20/10 10:40 PM
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#1847186 - 03/20/10 11:44 PM
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WestTn Huntin'man
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You mentioned a house. It might be worth that if it included a roof over your head and you have to travel to hunt the lease.Sounds alittle steep for just the land.
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#1847220 - 03/21/10 02:30 AM
Re: 161 acre lease $400 per x 4 people too high?
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No! Way too high. 161 acres is not enough land for four people. You will be in a fight within two hours.
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#1847254 - 03/21/10 07:44 AM
Re: 161 acre lease $400 per x 4 people too high?
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$10/ acre is worth it only if it's an incredible property for hunting. I'd offer her $800 for you and your son for the whole property to yourselves. That would be very reasonable.
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#1847265 - 03/21/10 07:58 AM
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No! Way too high. 161 acres is not enough land for four people. You will be in a fight within two hours.
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#1847282 - 03/21/10 08:25 AM
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I had a classified ad up on here on TNdeer for the last couple of weeks for my hunting club and we were doing $700 for 5300 acres, which works out to 13 cents an acre for the year, give or take.
4 people on 161 acres may or may not work. It might work if the 4 people knew each other (like family) and agreed to split up and each staked out and stayed on their share of their own 40 acres. If there was a portion of that land that didn't attract deer, the others could help to put in a food plot, or some otherwise attractant for the deer. Or, they could rotate who hunts which plot each time they went.
But like I said, this would probalby work better for 4 friends than for people that didnt know each other.
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#1847342 - 03/21/10 09:31 AM
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Too much for too little
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#1847347 - 03/21/10 09:43 AM
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I think $800 for just you and your son and 161 acres is still very high. I would offer $4-500 tops with 2-3 people. Of course the price varies depending on the land and surrounding area.
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#1847421 - 03/21/10 10:36 AM
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No! Way too high. 161 acres is not enough land for four people. You will be in a fight within two hours.
theres 3 of us that hunt our 81 acres and we never get in anybodys way. theres been as many as 6 hunt at once and never had any problems and were a good distance from each other.
161 acres for 4 people is a good bit of land. price seems steep but if its worth it to you pay for it
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#1847433 - 03/21/10 10:40 AM
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No! Way too high. 161 acres is not enough land for four people. You will be in a fight within two hours.
Four of us hunt one farm that is 184 acres and have no problems. We rarely see the same deer either.
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#1847565 - 03/21/10 11:38 AM
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Too high.
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#1847684 - 03/21/10 12:57 PM
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IceMann
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Thats way too high but hunters have kind of screwed their selves by starting to pay these outragous lease prices in the first place.I think 6.50 an acre is way too high,but some people dont
If every hunter would stick together and refuse to pay thes price gougher prices ,you would see land lease prices drop like a rock, because they want to lease the land and now see hunters as an easy mark, which they are by paying the high prices..
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#1847836 - 03/21/10 03:00 PM
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If every hunter would stick together and refuse to pay thes price gougher prices ,you would see land lease prices drop like a rock, because they want to lease the land and now see hunters as an easy mark, which they are by paying the high prices..
that's not gonna happen. lease prices will only rise because there is always somebody with more money willing to pay. leasing is the biggest threat to hunting for the common folk.
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#1847845 - 03/21/10 03:04 PM
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Only to high if you have a better,cheaper place
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#1848137 - 03/21/10 06:11 PM
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To answer a few questions since the land was logged & the property that surrounds it was logged a couple years ago deer numbers have dropped dramatically. only saw total of 5 bucks last season there.I took a decent 9 point opening day of rifle season & that was the only deer i took there last year. Turkeys have vanished from there. At this point its the only spot i have to hunt & its about 20 miles from home.The use of the House is not in with the lease. The other 2 people that have hunted it refuse to shoot does & shoot any buck despite size. Have had a couple people in my stands that i had to run off.Plus she lets family hunt there also if i decide to go in the lease that will have to stop unless they want to buy in.
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#1848145 - 03/21/10 06:15 PM
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Sounds like you should start looking around to see what else is available ASAP. That way you'll have an idea of how to handle it. Good luck!
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#1848147 - 03/21/10 06:16 PM
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if i was to pay that much there'd have to be antler restrictions and no family of hers would be able to hunt it. which probably will not go over well with her when you tell her. thats just my opinion
good luck with it
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#1848183 - 03/21/10 06:25 PM
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For her letting other people hunt then I would say no. I have a lease agreement that says I have exclusive rights to all big and small game and say who hunts or not.
I pay his land taxes x2, is what he told me. With the taxes on the land I am buying, I feel he is pretty close. Also with the camping spot, and year round access, what I pay is more then fair. B
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#1849933 - 03/22/10 05:15 PM
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Thats way too high but hunters have kind of screwed their selves by starting to pay these outragous lease prices in the first place.I think 6.50 an acre is way too high,but some people dont
If every hunter would stick together and refuse to pay thes price gougher prices ,you would see land lease prices drop like a rock, because they want to lease the land and now see hunters as an easy mark, which they are by paying the high prices..
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#1850641 - 03/22/10 10:30 PM
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IF it is all you have then it might be worth it. me and 4 friends pay 1100 total of 120 acres. in W. Tenn
1. It is all we have.
2. One person lives in Knoxville and only comes up on the opener of MZ and Rifle.
3. Never have we all been off work at the same time so we have never been "crowded"
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#1851968 - 03/23/10 06:37 PM
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5 of us pay $800 each for 2,400 acres.
$1.66 per acre.
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#1852584 - 03/24/10 07:15 AM
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Sounds pretty high...
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#1852593 - 03/24/10 07:25 AM
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Need to just buy you a small place. Land prices are going way down, it is time to buy. That leasing stuff is no good, you really dont have much say in anything on the place, can get ran off at any time the contract ends.
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#1855456 - 03/25/10 05:31 PM
Re: 161 acre lease $400 per x 4 people too high?
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Thats a little steep.
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