#1839520 - 03/14/10 09:54 PM
Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!!
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I know this is not a deer topic..but knew this would get a lot of views on this page. It seems that some crooked politics are brewin' with some commissioners & special interst groups working under the table to ELIMINATE the Archery Bear season that was put in place a couple of years ago. Seems that several of the Bear Dog Hunting clubs have set up a PRIVATE meeting with some TWRA commissioners as well as other key TWRA personnel at the John Sevier Firing Range in the Knoxville area this Monday night (March 15th) with out ANY public notice what-so-ever. This meeting will be completely illegal & will have the purpose of taking away the opportunity for the legal harvest of black bears during the early archery season. The "Dog Hunters" are trying to Strong-arm the TWRA into doing this because they want ALL the bear hunting for themselves (plain & simple). They DO NOT LIKE HAVING ANY COMPETITION for the bears on PUBLIC (OUR) land. ALL archery hunters need to STAND UP and BE HEARD!!!!!! If we lose this privilege, we will NEVER get it back! This issue has NOTHING to do with management. It's "GREED" & nothing else. We already have to put up with a shorter season on public land due to their strong-arm tactics in the past. These "Bear Hunting Clubs are nothing but organized "BULLIES" and they are pushing on EVERY bowhunter in this state. We pay the same price for our license as these guys & we deserve a fair shake from the TWRA & our commissioners! Whether you bear hunt or not you should have the OPPORTUNITY to bear hunt in the National Forest with archery equipment. Everyone with-in driving distance of the firing range should show up tommorrow night and bust up their little shin-dig.
Commissioners involved include:
Todd Shelton - Greeneville: 423-639-5183
Eric Wright - Elizabethton: 423-213-9514 (BEARHUNTER)!!!!
Everyone is encouraged to call the Region 4 office on Monday & ask for John Gregory to confirm this meeting. This could cause them to abort this meeting since it IS illegal. Clubs involved are: East TN BearHunters Association
Doe Valley Hunting Club
We should demand a federal investigation if these people succeed in there plan. Everyone needs to call their local news agencies and get them on this story.
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#1839646 - 03/14/10 10:46 PM
Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!!
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If that is really what's going on then I agree, it aint right.
I don't think they took any of the dog hunters days away when they put the archery seasons in place, they only added some archery days. I don't see their gripe.
I bear hunt during archery season and love it because I don't have to listen to the dogs and worry bout getting walked all over by the guys chasing them.
I get to hunt bear by scouting and learning their habits.
I was so happy to see them put the archery hunts in place. Surely they won't take them away so soon?
You guys that live in east Tn shouldn't let this happen.
TN-ELK....I live too far away and have to work, but I hope you can get to that meeting with some of your friends. It only takes a little opposition at something like that to stop it. Especially when it's illegal, which I think it is.
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#1839656 - 03/14/10 10:55 PM
Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!!
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Even if your too far away, PLEASE pick up the phone & be heard!!! That's what it will take to get their attention. If they think that no one really cares; they WILL get there way!
My info on this meeting is pretty solid. I too; have become addicted to bear hunting during the archery season. I have all but quit deer hunting because of it. If these commissioners hear from 200 dog hunters & 15 archery hunters, how do you think they will react to these guys cryin'?
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#1839662 - 03/14/10 11:03 PM
Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!!
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These "special closed meetings" have taken place in the past also. That's how they got there "night training season" last year. Bear hunting at night!!!! It just kinda "showed up" in the regs. last year. Majjin' that!!!!! BearDog Hunter politics in East TN are the equivalent to the waterfowl/commercial fishing under the table programs that take place in West TN!!!!
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#1839747 - 03/15/10 06:44 AM
Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!!
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anything with the word "politics" in it gets two thumbs down from me.....trusting any of them is like standing in the rain, naked "trusting" that you won't get wet...
true dat
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#1839775 - 03/15/10 07:34 AM
Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!!
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Meeting Confirmed!!!!! Just got off the phone with Region 4 office & the meeting is/was scheduled for tonight. TWRA not happy campers now! I can't urge everyone enough to CALL & be Heard!!!! It is ILLEGAL to hold a meeting of this nature on public grounds without giving public notice!!! TWRA Agenda was to discuss lower Cherokee regs. / Dog Clubs agenda is to kill Archery Bear season on public land all over!!!!! Let the TWRA as well as these commissioners hear your voice!!!!! All we ask is a fair shake in this matter. They could care less about private land because they can't run their dogs in those confined areas.
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#1839911 - 03/16/10 06:01 PM
Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!!
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Good luck man,hate to see it get taken away from you.
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#1840047 - 03/16/10 06:40 PM
Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!!
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Well whats the word??
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#1840359 - 03/16/10 08:15 PM
Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!!
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We had the same thing in Unicoi Co. last year. The Bear hunters got together and went to the County Commission and gave them only one side of the story.
Well long story short, archery banned together, got on the agenda for the next meeting. We brought in the TWRA to state the facts, not what the other side wanted them to hear.
They were trying to get the County Commission to pass a Private act to ban bear hunting with a bow in the county of Unicoi. After hearing the facts from TWRA the commission decided they had no business in trying to do the job of game management, which is what we have the TWRA for.
This is the same exact senario as stated above.
I'm not against the Dog hunters for bear. I just want to have the right to hunt them if the TWRA sees that there is a need for an archery season and that they are giving me the opportunity to do so. I don't want to run them with dogs and that is my choice, I just don't believe one group should try to take something away from another.
Trust me, where I'm at the bear population is growing at an alarming rate. More than enough to go around.
Gather your facts, take to the commissioners, find out what information they have. Some are probably not hunters, be ready to educate them, and seek Help from the TWRA.
A good contact for info would be Doug Lynch in ERWIN (UNICOI CO.)
or Loren Thomas also in Erwin.
Send me a pm if I can help
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