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#1841124 - 03/17/10 06:06 AM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: archer19]
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You know the first thing I would do? I'd get the facts.

I know nothng abiout this deal, never heard of it. But I would be talking with someone at TWRA and getting some straight info. Then, if what you are saying is true.

Kill em all.
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#1841296 - 03/17/10 07:33 AM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
You know the first thing I would do? I'd get the facts.

I know nothng abiout this deal, never heard of it. But I would be talking with someone at TWRA and getting some straight info. Then, if what you are saying is true.

Kill em all.

BW, there is no such thing as getting straight info from TWRA anymore, just look at how they are handling this once again major screw up on the Turkey permit drawings!

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#1841420 - 03/17/10 08:49 AM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: Winchester]
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Winchester- I get straight answers. Maybe you just need to know who...and how to ask.
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#1841734 - 03/17/10 11:51 AM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
Winchester- I get straight answers. Maybe you just need to know who...and how to ask.


Do tell your resources!
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#1841744 - 03/17/10 12:01 PM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: BigWes50]
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 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: bowriter
Winchester- I get straight answers. Maybe you just need to know who...and how to ask.


Do tell your resources!


You've either got to be in or know somebody in the "group"! Take it from someone who knows firsthand. Luckily for me, I know someone in the "group"! \:\)
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#1842349 - 03/17/10 05:04 PM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: Yodel Dog]
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Any word on what happened?
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#1842464 - 03/17/10 06:06 PM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: Big Gun]
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I'd like to hear about this myself....I happen to know the Doe Valley Club Pres...I'll see him tomorrow and ask him about it...
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#1842925 - 03/17/10 09:32 PM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: Double-D-Team]
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Not sure but isn't there a sunshine law against "private" meetings by government officials? If our county commission met like this they'd be charged with a crime.

This is nothing new to bear hunting in Tennessee. The difference is that the bear hunters are organized. If every hunting group were as organized they could stop some of this private act stuff, or even ask for their own private acts.

Private acts have been the real problem for years and the bear hunters know how to use them. Someday some of these bear hunters are going to need allies, and they may find they don't have them. They seem to sometimes be their own worst enemies.
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#1843330 - 03/18/10 08:12 AM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: archer19]
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Here's the "word".....

Although he would not identify himself, I suspect I am the one who spoke to TN-ELK on Monday morning. As I told him, there was nothing illegal about the Monday night meeting. It consisted of about 10 Agency employees and 8 hunters. 1 hunter came in late and I didn't get his name or location. Otherwise all hunters were form Monroe/Polk counties. ZERO TWRC member were present.

We have received differing opinions from 2-3 bear hunting groups on some issues on the South Cherokee. This meeting was organized by the Agency to bring a few individuals from each group together to discuss their differing opinions and hopefully come to some middle ground. It was very productive.

Was the bear archery season mentioned? Yes it was. Displeasure for the regulation was expressed and we made note.

Guys, we meet with hunters/fisherman all the time. Sometimes in large public settings and others just involve a couple of people dropping by the office to talk for 1/2 hour about concerns they have. The sunshine law mentioned above refers to an unpublished Commission Meeting.

I am encouraged to see that many of you seem to be concerned about losing the bear archery season. We (Region 4) assume that it is popular due to the number of bears harvested. However, no one is contacting us and making their preferences known and asking us to keep the hunt in place. We are only hearing from people on the other side. If you truly are concerned about losing this hunt, then write some letters, make some phone calls, and come to the Commission Meeting in Nashville. AlanP has given this advice many times before. It is the best way to get things accomplished.


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#1843340 - 03/18/10 08:21 AM Re: Crooked politics....Bowhunters Speak-Up!!! [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
 Originally Posted By: bowriter
You know the first thing I would do? I'd get the facts.

I know nothng abiout this deal, never heard of it. But I would be talking with someone at TWRA and getting some straight info. Then, if what you are saying is true.

Kill em all.

BW, there is no such thing as getting straight info from TWRA anymore, just look at how they are handling this once again major screw up on the Turkey permit drawings!


This statement is very close to what is considered bashing TWRA.
Please refrain from further comments like this, they do nothing to aid anyone.
Pretty much from what I have seen of late no matter what TWRA personnel are nice to say on here they are slammed and blamed for pretty much everything.
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