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#1838761 - 03/14/10 04:08 PM What should thw buck limit be in TN?
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Tennessees buck limit is:

A) Too Low

B) About right

C) Too High
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#1838763 - 03/14/10 04:10 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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I go with B)......
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#1838776 - 03/14/10 04:15 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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#1838781 - 03/14/10 04:19 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: stik]
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3 per day,just like does in unit L,doesnt matter anyway,right?
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#1838783 - 03/14/10 04:22 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: stik]
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I think it ought to be retro. If I didn't kill a buck last year then next year I should be able to kill 6. Not really, lol, but I've seen almost every other scenario covered under buck limit posts.
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#1838797 - 03/14/10 04:36 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Mike Belt]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
3 per day,just like does in unit L,doesnt matter anyway,right?
 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
I think it ought to be retro. If I didn't kill a buck last year then next year I should be able to kill 6. Not really, lol, but I've seen almost every other scenario covered under buck limit posts.
Should I count these as non responsive?
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#1838810 - 03/14/10 04:50 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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#1838811 - 03/14/10 04:50 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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The buck limit should be whatever beekeeper and gator n buck thinks it should be since they know the most about it and post the most. \:\)
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#1838822 - 03/14/10 04:54 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
The buck limit should be whatever beekeeper and gator n buck thinks it should be since they know the most about it and post the most. \:\)
Just trying to determine whether or not you are right with what you posted in the other thread. I guess this is non responsive also.
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#1838827 - 03/14/10 04:56 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
3 per day,just like does in unit L,doesnt matter anyway,right?
 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
I think it ought to be retro. If I didn't kill a buck last year then next year I should be able to kill 6. Not really, lol, but I've seen almost every other scenario covered under buck limit posts.
Should I count these as non responsive?
No,I responded.
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#1838829 - 03/14/10 04:56 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 0

B) About right 3

C) Too High 0
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#1838843 - 03/14/10 05:03 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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#1838846 - 03/14/10 05:05 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
Responses so far:

A) Too Low 0

B) About right 3

C) Too High 0
Correction,I said 3 per day,so thats one for A
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#1838856 - 03/14/10 05:12 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
Responses so far:

A) Too Low 0

B) About right 3

C) Too High 0
Correction,I said 3 per day,so thats one for A
I stand Corrected!
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#1838859 - 03/14/10 05:13 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 1

B) About right 3

C) Too High 1
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#1838861 - 03/14/10 05:14 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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\:\) \:\) \:\)
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#1838898 - 03/14/10 05:37 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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A \:D
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#1838904 - 03/14/10 05:41 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Buzzard]
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B - Sounds good to me
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#1838919 - 03/14/10 05:53 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: 44fanatic]
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#1838925 - 03/14/10 05:59 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: mike243]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 2

B) About right 5

C) Too High 1
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#1838941 - 03/14/10 06:16 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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#1839009 - 03/14/10 07:08 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: A.Hall]
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#1839023 - 03/14/10 07:12 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
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#1839024 - 03/14/10 07:12 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
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#1839054 - 03/14/10 07:33 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: ghosthunter]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 2

B) About right 8

C) Too High 2
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#1839068 - 03/14/10 07:39 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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#1839082 - 03/14/10 07:47 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Braggin Rights]
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I think A...but I will reply with B. ;\)
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#1839152 - 03/14/10 08:10 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: FLIPPER]
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I have to say B. I have ample opportunity to reach my goal as a trophy hunter...although I don't always succeed, I sure have a lot of fun trying. Cant see the reasoning for adding needless restrictions.

In all fairness though I do hunt an area almost exclusively that has a 1 buck limit.
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#1839156 - 03/14/10 08:11 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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3 because the TWRA knows what they are doing.
B


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#1839164 - 03/14/10 08:14 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: ]
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D shut it down in da east for a few yrs! lol
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#1839183 - 03/14/10 08:21 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BoneHead1]
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 Originally Posted By: BoneHead1
D shut it down in da east for a few yrs! lol
Another non responsive!!



Responses so far:

A) Too Low 3

B) About right 12

C) Too High 2
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#1839191 - 03/14/10 08:22 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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#1839363 - 03/14/10 09:13 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: EastTNHunter]
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#1839461 - 03/14/10 09:42 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: cecil30-30]
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sry. put me in for c
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#1839496 - 03/14/10 09:49 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BoneHead1]
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#1839606 - 03/14/10 10:24 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: budro2]
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A) I'm converting to a "brown and downer" in 2010! I'm killing everything I see! Does, buttons, yearlings, they're all fair game. Get ready for some kill pics, boys! Here's the new me:

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#1839704 - 03/15/10 12:50 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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#1839728 - 03/15/10 05:49 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tiny]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 4

B) About right 14

C) Too High 5
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#1839732 - 03/15/10 05:59 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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 Originally Posted By: Yodel Dog
A) I'm converting to a "brown and downer" in 2010! I'm killing everything I see! Does, buttons, yearlings, they're all fair game. Get ready for some kill pics, boys! Here's the new me:




hahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!!!!!!
make sure they still have some mama,s milk in their mouth
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#1839733 - 03/15/10 06:00 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: renegade50]
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c.
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#1839780 - 03/15/10 07:40 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: renegade50]
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I only kill one per season, if that, and only TWO if I get a shot at a 100-120 plus during bow season. I may get more picky this coming season . I am running out of wall space....haha.

I have no need to prove my ability and since I can eat does, I rarely kill a buck anymore....oh, I never eat any deer with antlers......if i kill a mature buck, I give the meat to HFH.

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#1839886 - 03/16/10 05:49 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Bottom Hunter]
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why won't these threads die?
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#1839891 - 03/16/10 05:52 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: megalomaniac]
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
why won't these threads die?
Because its cold and cloudy and March,people are bored I guess.
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#1839901 - 03/16/10 05:57 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 4

B) About right 14

C) Too High 6
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#1839903 - 03/16/10 05:58 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
Football Hunter
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Too high
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#1839905 - 03/16/10 05:58 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Too high
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#1839907 - 03/16/10 05:59 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Too high,IM bored \:\)
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#1839921 - 03/16/10 06:04 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Too high
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Too high
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Too high,IM bored \:\)
You only get one vote and you used it on page 2 voting for A.
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#1839935 - 03/16/10 06:07 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?

Edited by Football Hunter (03/16/10 06:07 PM)
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#1839963 - 03/16/10 06:18 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


UMMMM.. Maybe people in E. TN can count higher than one.. \:D


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/16/10 06:18 PM)

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#1839981 - 03/16/10 06:23 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


UMMMM.. Maybe people in E. TN can count higher than one.. \:D


Yep 1.5

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#1840004 - 03/16/10 06:29 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
gator-n-buck
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 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


UMMMM.. Maybe people in E. TN can count higher than one.. \:D


Yep 1.5


That would make a new debate... 1.5 buck limit...LOL

I always wonder in these polls why the one buck limit guys hijack these threads...

a) because they don't want to hear the truth...

b)They don't like the facts

c)They don't like to find out that the majority of hunters in TN are not for a one buck limit...


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/16/10 06:33 PM)

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#1840005 - 03/16/10 06:29 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


UMMMM.. Maybe people in E. TN can count higher than one.. \:D


Yep 1.5



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#1840115 - 03/16/10 06:56 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
FLIPPER
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


UMMMM.. Maybe people in E. TN can count higher than one.. \:D


Yep 1.5


That would make a new debate... 1.5 buck limit...LOL

I always wonder in these polls why the one buck limit guys hijack these threads...

a) because they don't want to hear the truth...

b)They don't like the facts

c)They don't like to find out that the majority of hunters in TN are not for a one buck limit...


Imagine that! \:\)
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#1840145 - 03/16/10 07:08 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: FLIPPER]
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I'm for a 2 buck limit...........not 1 GnB.
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#1840151 - 03/16/10 07:10 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


UMMMM.. Maybe people in E. TN can count higher than one.. \:D


Yep 1.5


That would make a new debate... 1.5 buck limit...LOL

I always wonder in these polls why the one buck limit guys hijack these threads...

a) because they don't want to hear the truth...

b)They don't like the facts

c)They don't like to find out that the majority of hunters in TN are not for a one buck limit...

I believe it is all of the above. I have not voted yet and the count remains:

Responses so far:

A) Too Low 4

B) About right 14

C) Too High 6
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#1840491 - 03/16/10 08:48 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


UMMMM.. Maybe people in E. TN can count higher than one.. \:D


Yep 1.5


That would make a new debate... 1.5 buck limit...LOL

I always wonder in these polls why the one buck limit guys hijack these threads...

a) because they don't want to hear the truth...

b)They don't like the facts

c)They don't like to find out that the majority of hunters in TN are not for a one buck limit...


You make as much sense as Nancy Pelosi stating the facts on health care reform \:D

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#1840543 - 03/16/10 08:59 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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#1840545 - 03/16/10 09:00 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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I have to go with B on this one
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#1840563 - 03/16/10 09:03 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: renegade50]
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#1840566 - 03/16/10 09:04 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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#1840570 - 03/16/10 09:04 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Buck Nekkid]
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#1840571 - 03/16/10 09:05 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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#1840575 - 03/16/10 09:05 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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to high

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#1840593 - 03/16/10 09:09 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: archer19]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 4

B) About right 19

C) Too High 8
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#1840624 - 03/16/10 09:17 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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#1840721 - 03/16/10 09:37 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
11


DA since Beekeeper doesn't have an all of above, added together... I guess he will have to put you down for "A". Doesn't 11 sound a little low for your standards...

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#1840773 - 03/16/10 09:46 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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#1840783 - 03/16/10 09:48 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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I vote B

Aint no way I'm going with A-it would be ridiculous to kill anymore than 3 IMO

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#1840808 - 03/16/10 09:53 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: ghosthunter]
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#1840835 - 03/16/10 09:57 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


I seen it posted the other day, that maybe thats why they still have a unit B.
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#1840913 - 03/16/10 10:22 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
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B

There are more deer in different parts of the state. Thus the different units. No need to over or under harvest. I have seen a definite improvement in the number and quality of deer so something must be going right. I live and hunt in east tn. plus I am on a lease in unit L.


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#1840968 - 03/16/10 10:58 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: caretaker]
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#1840980 - 03/16/10 11:06 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: renegade50]
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#1840981 - 03/16/10 11:07 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: redblood]
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#1840985 - 03/16/10 11:08 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: LUNGBLOOD]
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Some of yall are caving in to peer pressure. admit it
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#1841050 - 03/17/10 01:02 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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B I'm good with 3 but would like to see it restricted to one archery, one MZ, and one Rifle.
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#1841091 - 03/17/10 05:49 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
Some of yall are caving in to peer pressure. admit it


true dat

to be accepted.................................
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#1841189 - 03/17/10 06:54 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: renegade50]
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#1841238 - 03/17/10 07:11 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: MUP]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 5

B) About right 26

C) Too High 10
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#1841246 - 03/17/10 07:13 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
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 Originally Posted By: 8 POINTS OR BETTER
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


I seen it posted the other day, that maybe thats why they still have a unit B.
I think there is a Unit B because of total deer population not because of the number of bucks in the herd.
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#1841253 - 03/17/10 07:16 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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#1841257 - 03/17/10 07:17 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
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MAYBE NOW C'S HAVE IT


Since some of us have been said to be in the minority and trying to cover that by the number of post we make I am only counting 1 vote for each poster. Sorry!!!
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#1841261 - 03/17/10 07:18 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 5

B) About right 27

C) Too High 10
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#1841264 - 03/17/10 07:19 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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#1841306 - 03/17/10 07:41 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: smstone22]
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#1841371 - 03/17/10 08:17 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: KENBOB10]
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#1841749 - 03/17/10 12:03 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: woodchuckc]
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C for me. But select D for gator buck and beekeeper.
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#1841798 - 03/17/10 12:22 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 5

B) About right 29

C) Too High 12
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#1841859 - 03/17/10 12:42 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
Responses so far:

A) Too Low 5

B) About right 29

C) Too High 12


What does this prove? absolutely nothing! Do this poll statewide to every licensed hunter and then I will consider it fact! To many groupees on this site!
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#1841871 - 03/17/10 12:46 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
Responses so far:

A) Too Low 5

B) About right 29

C) Too High 12


What does this prove? absolutely nothing! Do this poll statewide to every licensed hunter and then I will consider it fact! To many groupees on this site!


I would consider this site for serious hunters and you would have a better chance for more hunters answering "C" "Too High" than you would with a state wide survey...JMO

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#1841877 - 03/17/10 12:51 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: 8 POINTS OR BETTER
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


I seen it posted the other day, that maybe thats why they still have a unit B.
I think there is a Unit B because of total deer population not because of the number of bucks in the herd.


I would think that would essentially mean the same thing.
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#1841882 - 03/17/10 12:53 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
Responses so far:

A) Too Low 5

B) About right 29

C) Too High 12


What does this prove? absolutely nothing! Do this poll statewide to every licensed hunter and then I will consider it fact! To many groupees on this site!


I would consider this site for serious hunters and you would have a better chance for more hunters answering "C" "Too High" than you would with a state wide survey...JMO


Why would you come to that conclusion? Do you consider all serious hunters, trophy hunters?
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#1841890 - 03/17/10 12:55 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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 Originally Posted By: Yodel Dog
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: 8 POINTS OR BETTER
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


I seen it posted the other day, that maybe thats why they still have a unit B.
I think there is a Unit B because of total deer population not because of the number of bucks in the herd.


I would think that would essentially mean the same thing.
The herd in unit B could stand the extra loss of bucks but it couldn't stand the extra pressure on does and still grow. Does have more to do with the herds ability to increase or maintain numbers than bucks do. To put it simply: Few does=Few fawns Few bucks=No decrease in fawn numbers.
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#1841922 - 03/17/10 01:10 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Bertman]
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I vote C
As in Two (2) Annually. \:\)


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#1841926 - 03/17/10 01:11 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
Few bucks=No decrease in fawn numbers.


I totally disagree! If your East TN buck has to travel 10 miles to find a hot doe during her 24-36 hour window, then leaves her and does it all over again, how could this possibly not affect fawn numbers when peak breeding only lasts about a week? How much stress do you think this puts on bucks in areas with low deer densities?
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#1841927 - 03/17/10 01:11 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: Yodel Dog
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: 8 POINTS OR BETTER
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
OK,I read back through this "thang"And noticed something I have always suspected,more people in ETN like a higher or as it is limit,while most WTN like a lower or as it is limit.WOnder why,?what does this say?


I seen it posted the other day, that maybe thats why they still have a unit B.
I think there is a Unit B because of total deer population not because of the number of bucks in the herd.


I would think that would essentially mean the same thing.
The herd in unit B could stand the extra loss of bucks but it couldn't stand the extra pressure on does and still grow. Does have more to do with the herds ability to increase or maintain numbers than bucks do. To put it simply: Few does=Few fawns Few bucks=No decrease in fawn numbers.


Where is the proof of this? I hunt in counties that border unit B and have family that lives in Greene county. They tell me to many does and no bucks nowhere?
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#1841932 - 03/17/10 01:13 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
The herd in unit B could stand the extra loss of bucks but it couldn't stand the extra pressure on does and still grow. Does have more to do with the herds ability to increase or maintain numbers than bucks do. To put it simply: Few does=Few fawns Few bucks=No decrease in fawn numbers.


Where is the proof of this? I hunt in counties that border unit B and have family that lives in Greene county. They tell me to many does and no bucks nowhere?
If there are fawns then there are bucks there too.
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#1841933 - 03/17/10 01:14 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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Responses so far:

A) Too Low 5

B) About right 29

C) Too High 13
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#1841944 - 03/17/10 01:17 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
Responses so far:

A) Too Low 5

B) About right 29

C) Too High 12


What does this prove? absolutely nothing! Do this poll statewide to every licensed hunter and then I will consider it fact! To many groupees on this site!


I would consider this site for serious hunters and you would have a better chance for more hunters answering "C" "Too High" than you would with a state wide survey...JMO


Providing that the hunters on this forum are serious, I would conclude that this would constitute an adequate segment survey. Sound logical?
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#1841950 - 03/17/10 01:19 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
The herd in unit B could stand the extra loss of bucks but it couldn't stand the extra pressure on does and still grow. Does have more to do with the herds ability to increase or maintain numbers than bucks do. To put it simply: Few does=Few fawns Few bucks=No decrease in fawn numbers.


Where is the proof of this? I hunt in counties that border unit B and have family that lives in Greene county. They tell me to many does and no bucks nowhere?
If there are fawns then there are bucks there too.


Any your point? 1 1.5year old buck could breed as many does as he could get 2! That doesn't mean there are good buck numbers, heck if the overall deer numbers are low doesn't that mean that there are not enough bucks breeding does to have more bucks and does?
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#1841960 - 03/17/10 01:21 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
Wes Parrish
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Truth be known, most hunters really don't give a flying rat's butt whether the buck limit is 1 or 2 or 3 or more.

Most hunters simply want to know the rules, so they don't accidently break one and get in trouble. They otherwise trust and accept that TWRA is doing a good job, and couldn't care less about the buck limits.

If we currently had a 2-buck limit, you could do a poll, and most hunters would still answer that the limit is "about right".

I'd even bet most TN deer hunters would say "fine" with a 1-buck limit, since most are not effected at all whether the limit is 1 or more than 1, as most kill "none" annually regardless of buck limits.

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#1841963 - 03/17/10 01:24 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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#1841979 - 03/17/10 01:31 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Truth be known, most hunters really don't give a flying rat's butt whether the buck limit is 1 or 2 or 3 or more.

Most hunters simply want to know the rules, so they don't accidently break one and get in trouble. They otherwise trust and accept that TWRA is doing a good job, and couldn't care less about the buck limits.

If we currently had a 2-buck limit, you could do a poll, and most hunters would still answer that the limit is "about right".

I'd even bet most TN deer hunters would say "fine" with a 1-buck limit, since most are not effected at all whether the limit is 1 or more than 1, as most kill "none" annually regardless of buck limits.


Excatly, everybody is always saying that most licensed TN hunters don't even kill a buck a year so why so against a 2 buck limit? Here's the answer! Cause most hunters on this site that are for a higher buck limit use 2 of the tags to burn on "pulling the trigger" and the last 1 "I'll hunt now for a good buck"
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#1841994 - 03/17/10 01:40 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
If we currently had a 2-buck limit, you could do a poll, and most hunters would still answer that the limit is "about right".


That's hilarious, but true!
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#1842007 - 03/17/10 01:46 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)

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#1842014 - 03/17/10 01:48 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)

\:D Thats funny, but true..LMAO
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#1842018 - 03/17/10 01:50 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)


No, we'd probably want the season closed for 5 years. ;\)
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#1842060 - 03/17/10 02:13 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)



I'm satisfied and not crying! What was wrong with it being at 2 like we had it? Can anybody give any info that a 2 buck limit would cause any harm to our deer herd?
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#1842075 - 03/17/10 02:22 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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The only answer is:

What the TWRA say's it will be.....1,2,or 100....

They know whats best for the state...
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#1842223 - 03/17/10 03:47 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Double-D-Team]
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 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
The only answer is:

What the TWRA say's it will be.....1,2,or 100....

They know whats best for the state...
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#1842233 - 03/17/10 03:52 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
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So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)



I'm satisfied and not crying! What was wrong with it being at 2 like we had it? Can anybody give any info that a 2 buck limit would cause any harm to our deer herd?
Do you have any proof that a three buck limit has harmed the deer herd in TN?
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#1842242 - 03/17/10 03:59 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: cecil30-30]
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)

\:D Thats funny, but true..LMAO

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#1842255 - 03/17/10 04:08 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)



I'm satisfied and not crying! What was wrong with it being at 2 like we had it? Can anybody give any info that a 2 buck limit would cause any harm to our deer herd?
Do you have any proof that a three buck limit has harmed the deer herd in TN?


Do you have any proof that its helped it?
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#1842281 - 03/17/10 04:23 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)



I'm satisfied and not crying! What was wrong with it being at 2 like we had it? Can anybody give any info that a 2 buck limit would cause any harm to our deer herd?
Do you have any proof that a three buck limit has harmed the deer herd in TN?


Do you have any proof that its helped it?
Sure has helped me put more meat in the freezer!!! LOL. \:D
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#1842321 - 03/17/10 04:46 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)



I'm satisfied and not crying! What was wrong with it being at 2 like we had it? Can anybody give any info that a 2 buck limit would cause any harm to our deer herd?
Do you have any proof that a three buck limit has harmed the deer herd in TN?


Do you have any proof that its helped it?
Sure has helped me put more meat in the freezer!!! LOL. \:D


X2, good answer...
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#1842323 - 03/17/10 04:46 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
So Im just going with your thought process here wes....if we had a 2 buck limit the same people crying now that it should be lowered because they arent satisfied would be complaining and want the limit at 1? ;\)



I'm satisfied and not crying! What was wrong with it being at 2 like we had it? Can anybody give any info that a 2 buck limit would cause any harm to our deer herd?
Do you have any proof that a three buck limit has harmed the deer herd in TN?


Do you have any proof that its helped it?
Sure has helped me put more meat in the freezer!!! LOL. \:D


Was it tender.... Them young ones are pretty tender on the grill... \:D


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/17/10 04:46 PM)

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#1842329 - 03/17/10 04:52 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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On that note...Can anyone say that they haven't taken a young buck in there life...I can't...

PS: They are tender... \:D
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#1842355 - 03/17/10 05:09 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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 Originally Posted By: BigWes50


What does this prove? absolutely nothing! Do this poll statewide to every licensed hunter and then I will consider it fact! To many groupees on this site!


No disrespect intended, but if there are too (correct spelling) many groupies (correct spelling) on this site, it leads me to ask.... What are you doing here?

You have never had anything positive to say on here. What keeps bringing you back? Do you think you'll change everyone's mind or what? Just asking.

Have a nice day.
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#1842403 - 03/17/10 05:34 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: strutandrut]
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#1842409 - 03/17/10 05:37 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: FLIPPER]
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I guess I can vote now: B

Responses so far:

A) Too Low 5

B) About right 30

C) Too High 13
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#1842413 - 03/17/10 05:42 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Truth be known, most hunters really don't give a flying rat's butt whether the buck limit is 1 or 2 or 3 or more.

Most hunters simply want to know the rules, so they don't accidently break one and get in trouble. They otherwise trust and accept that TWRA is doing a good job, and couldn't care less about the buck limits.

If we currently had a 2-buck limit, you could do a poll, and most hunters would still answer that the limit is "about right".

I'd even bet most TN deer hunters would say "fine" with a 1-buck limit, since most are not effected at all whether the limit is 1 or more than 1, as most kill "none" annually regardless of buck limits.
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#1842425 - 03/17/10 05:49 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Truth be known, most hunters really don't give a flying rat's butt whether the buck limit is 1 or 2 or 3 or more.

Most hunters simply want to know the rules, so they don't accidently break one and get in trouble. They otherwise trust and accept that TWRA is doing a good job, and couldn't care less about the buck limits.

If we currently had a 2-buck limit, you could do a poll, and most hunters would still answer that the limit is "about right".

I'd even bet most TN deer hunters would say "fine" with a 1-buck limit, since most are not effected at all whether the limit is 1 or more than 1, as most kill "none" annually regardless of buck limits.
I think you are probably right. Most hunters believe the folks that work at TWRA and have input into setting the limits know what they are doing. If they think we need to go up or down with the limit then it would be about right no matter what it was.
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#1842445 - 03/17/10 06:02 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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Funny. your family in green co. must live close to a farm I hunt. In one day I saw 12 does…I think one may have had spikes.....I guess was lucky to see the does.
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#1842453 - 03/17/10 06:04 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BoneHead1]
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 Originally Posted By: BoneHead1
Funny. your family in green co. must live close to a farm I hunt. In one day I saw 12 does…I think one may have had spikes.....I guess was lucky to see the does.
If it had spikes it probably was not a doe! \:D \:D
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#1842465 - 03/17/10 06:06 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: SAWDUST]
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so our buck #s went thru the roof when we had a 2 buck limit for a bunch of years correct?,i seen no kill off when we went to 3 bucks any weapon,show the stats where our buck #s were on the rise along with the ages,didn't you shoot a 2.5 year old this past season bigwes50 after telling folks to letem go letem grow ? \:\) ,im going to stay legal & enjoy all the hunting time i can,if you want to shorten your season & time in the woods & your harvest #s have at it but dont try to brow beat others that hunt within the framework twra has set,twra has more data than you will ever be able to look up on the web because they have men trained for the job doing their job well 365 days a year,im done now \:\) ,mike243
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#1842476 - 03/17/10 06:10 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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i should have blown it away then..i 4got i was in Tn i guess at the time
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#1842485 - 03/17/10 06:19 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BoneHead1]
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 Originally Posted By: BoneHead1
i should have blown it away then..i 4got i was in Tn i guess at the time
It should have been your choice not anybody elses.
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#1842499 - 03/17/10 06:35 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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#1842502 - 03/17/10 06:42 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: mike243]
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 Originally Posted By: mike243
so our buck #s went thru the roof when we had a 2 buck limit for a bunch of years correct?,i seen no kill off when we went to 3 bucks any weapon,show the stats where our buck #s were on the rise along with the ages,didn't you shoot a 2.5 year old this past season bigwes50 after telling folks to letem go letem grow ? \:\) ,im going to stay legal & enjoy all the hunting time i can,if you want to shorten your season & time in the woods & your harvest #s have at it but dont try to brow beat others that hunt within the framework twra has set,twra has more data than you will ever be able to look up on the web because they have men trained for the job doing their job well 365 days a year,im done now \:\) ,mike243


Excellent post.I agree.


Edited by RAFI (03/17/10 06:43 PM)

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#1842620 - 03/17/10 07:53 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: mike243
so our buck #s went thru the roof when we had a 2 buck limit for a bunch of years correct?,i seen no kill off when we went to 3 bucks any weapon,show the stats where our buck #s were on the rise along with the ages,didn't you shoot a 2.5 year old this past season bigwes50 after telling folks to letem go letem grow ? \:\) ,im going to stay legal & enjoy all the hunting time i can,if you want to shorten your season & time in the woods & your harvest #s have at it but dont try to brow beat others that hunt within the framework twra has set,twra has more data than you will ever be able to look up on the web because they have men trained for the job doing their job well 365 days a year,im done now \:\) ,mike243


Excellent post.I agree.


I wouldn't think that buck would only be 2.5 years old... That would be kind of young for a one buck limit guy.... "Let them walk, let them them grow....."


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/17/10 07:53 PM)

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#1842641 - 03/17/10 08:00 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
RAFI
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: mike243
so our buck #s went thru the roof when we had a 2 buck limit for a bunch of years correct?,i seen no kill off when we went to 3 bucks any weapon,show the stats where our buck #s were on the rise along with the ages,didn't you shoot a 2.5 year old this past season bigwes50 after telling folks to letem go letem grow ? \:\) ,im going to stay legal & enjoy all the hunting time i can,if you want to shorten your season & time in the woods & your harvest #s have at it but dont try to brow beat others that hunt within the framework twra has set,twra has more data than you will ever be able to look up on the web because they have men trained for the job doing their job well 365 days a year,im done now \:\) ,mike243


Excellent post.I agree.


I wouldn't think that buck would only be 2.5 years old... That would be kind of young for a one buck limit guy.... "Let them walk, let them them grow....."



Do as I say not as I do and Tn will be like Ky. ;\)


Edited by RAFI (03/17/10 08:03 PM)

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#1842645 - 03/17/10 08:03 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
gator-n-buck
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: mike243
so our buck #s went thru the roof when we had a 2 buck limit for a bunch of years correct?,i seen no kill off when we went to 3 bucks any weapon,show the stats where our buck #s were on the rise along with the ages,didn't you shoot a 2.5 year old this past season bigwes50 after telling folks to letem go letem grow ? \:\) ,im going to stay legal & enjoy all the hunting time i can,if you want to shorten your season & time in the woods & your harvest #s have at it but dont try to brow beat others that hunt within the framework twra has set,twra has more data than you will ever be able to look up on the web because they have men trained for the job doing their job well 365 days a year,im done now \:\) ,mike243


Excellent post.I agree.


I wouldn't think that buck would only be 2.5 years old... That would be kind of young for a one buck limit guy.... "Let them walk, let them them grow....."



Do as I say not as I do and Tn will be like Ky. ;\)


\:o


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/17/10 08:04 PM)

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#1842646 - 03/17/10 08:03 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
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That's right. \:\)
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#1842654 - 03/17/10 08:05 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: mike243
so our buck #s went thru the roof when we had a 2 buck limit for a bunch of years correct?,i seen no kill off when we went to 3 bucks any weapon,show the stats where our buck #s were on the rise along with the ages,didn't you shoot a 2.5 year old this past season bigwes50 after telling folks to letem go letem grow ? \:\) ,im going to stay legal & enjoy all the hunting time i can,if you want to shorten your season & time in the woods & your harvest #s have at it but dont try to brow beat others that hunt within the framework twra has set,twra has more data than you will ever be able to look up on the web because they have men trained for the job doing their job well 365 days a year,im done now \:\) ,mike243


Excellent post.I agree.


I wouldn't think that buck would only be 2.5 years old... That would be kind of young for a one buck limit guy.... "Let them walk, let them them grow....."



Do as I say not as I do and Tn will be like Ky. ;\)


Who has better whiskey? Ky or TN.......


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/17/10 08:06 PM)

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#1842661 - 03/17/10 08:07 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck


Who has better whiskey? Ky or TN.......


TN \:D
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#1842666 - 03/17/10 08:08 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck


Who has better whiskey? Ky or TN.......


TN \:D



But people will say it is aged longer in Ky. \:D

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#1842677 - 03/17/10 08:11 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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Where does this,"do as I say,not as I do" come from?Any examples?Or just more hot air,post some pics from 1 buck guys and their small bucks,or quit saying it.

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#1842680 - 03/17/10 08:13 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
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now thats funny,well im going to call it a nite,dont nobody get their pantys in a wad,heck its fun to discuss all the diffrent thoughts & a meeting in the middle is some times possible,the 2 buck limit didn't grow many montsers before & im not sure how long we lived with it but im glad were over it,if twra ever decides we need a diffent limit i will follow along with it as i have no real choice,mike243
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#1842682 - 03/17/10 08:14 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck


Who has better whiskey? Ky or TN.......


TN \:D



But people will say it is aged longer in Ky. \:D
Sorry. Iforgot "Age is everything". \:D \:D \:D
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#1842704 - 03/17/10 08:20 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Where does this,"do as I say,not as I do" come from?Any examples?Or just more hot air,post some pics from 1 buck guys and their small bucks,or quit saying it.

Just saying


I'm not going to do it but I think someone might post up an example for you if you really need proof.

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#1842712 - 03/17/10 08:21 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck


Who has better whiskey? Ky or TN.......


TN \:D



But people will say it is aged longer in Ky. \:D
Sorry. Iforgot "Age is everything". \:D \:D \:D


I thought that was only with whine....... or would that be whinning????


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/17/10 08:22 PM)

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#1842732 - 03/17/10 08:26 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Where does this,"do as I say,not as I do" come from?Any examples?Or just more hot air,post some pics from 1 buck guys and their small bucks,or quit saying it.

Just saying


I'm not going to do it but I think someone might post up an example for you if you really need proof.
I dont need anything,just wondering where this comes from,Im sure it happens,mistakes ae made,I guess I dont pay attention as close as ya'll do.This is just fun to me,maybe Ill learn a litlle in the QDM forum,but the "Serious" forum is mostly just for arguing.
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#1842750 - 03/17/10 08:30 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Where does this,"do as I say,not as I do" come from?Any examples?Or just more hot air,post some pics from 1 buck guys and their small bucks,or quit saying it.

Just saying


I'm not going to do it but I think someone might post up an example for you if you really need proof.
I dont need anything,just wondering where this comes from,Im sure it happens,mistakes ae made,I guess I dont pay attention as close as ya'll do.This is just fun to me,maybe Ill learn a litlle in the QDM forum,but the "Serious" forum is mostly just for arguing.


Its that time of year and I agree its all in fun... I sure miss football season...

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#1842772 - 03/17/10 08:36 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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ME TOO!Fall is awesome,hunt till dark then watch Fla vs LSU,Maybe ALA vs Ga,what could be better?Seriously,I love it,What could be better?
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#1842778 - 03/17/10 08:38 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
ME TOO!Fall is awesome,hunt till dark then watch Fla vs LSU,Maybe ALA vs Ga,what could be better?Seriously,I love it,What could be better?


Some good games... When the Gators are on, I only hunt half days....

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#1842936 - 03/17/10 09:35 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: RAFI]
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck


Who has better whiskey? Ky or TN.......


TN \:D



But people will say it is aged longer in Ky. \:D


its because of the SOIL man!!!

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#1842959 - 03/17/10 09:42 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: budro2]
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 Originally Posted By: budro2
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck


Who has better whiskey? Ky or TN.......


TN \:D



But people will say it is aged longer in Ky. \:D


its because of the SOIL man!!!
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#1843020 - 03/17/10 10:07 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: budro2]
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 Originally Posted By: budro2
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck


Who has better whiskey? Ky or TN.......


TN \:D



But people will say it is aged longer in Ky. \:D


its because of the SOIL man!!!


I went back and read several hunting mags. over the last several months, several experts use soil as the main reason for why an area produces certain deer... Must be something to it... I asked my dad the other day that is mainly a coon hunter why is deer bigger (Racks) in certain areas... This man has been hunting over 50 yrs.. down in FL and the first thing that came out of his mouth was soil... He mentioned a few other factors like genetics and age but he thought soil was the most important... If my daddy says it, than I'm sticking to it... This brings up another point... If TN doesn't have the right elements to produce big bucks because of soil and genetics... Will some people always be in denial and can't except the truth... I will be the first to tell you that my home state has small bucks and small racks but we have one heck of a football team "Gators"...

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#1843072 - 03/17/10 10:28 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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I cant believe anyone would still be trying to suggest that TN cant produce big bucks after the hundreds of mature buck pics that are posted annually. Could possibly be a result of:

A) Drank too much kool-aid

B) On Drugs

C) Never had a lick to begin with

\:D

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#1843092 - 03/17/10 10:46 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
I cant believe anyone would still be trying to suggest that TN cant produce big bucks after the hundreds of mature buck pics that are posted annually. Could possibly be a result of:

A) Drank too much kool-aid

B) On Drugs

C) Never had a lick to begin with

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There is a difference between mature,and "BIG" bucks


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#1843105 - 03/17/10 11:19 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
I cant believe anyone would still be trying to suggest that TN cant produce big bucks after the hundreds of mature buck pics that are posted annually. Could possibly be a result of:

A) Drank too much kool-aid

B) On Drugs

C) Never had a lick to begin with

\:D


I'm not... TN has some nice bucks but on avg... TN can't compete with the states that everybody wants to use as examples... If you want to compare TN to FL, than TN wins hands down to the sandy state... I'm just trying to say that no matter what the buck limits are and how old the deer get... There are several elements that come into play on how big there racks get... Age can play apart but soil and genetics might play a bigger part... speaking of genetics, has anybody every wondered that since TN had to bring deer into the state the last 80 years, that it could of hurt the genetic poll by mixing so many deer from so many areas...JMO... Food for thought.

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#1843170 - 03/18/10 05:08 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
I cant believe anyone would still be trying to suggest that TN cant produce big bucks after the hundreds of mature buck pics that are posted annually. Could possibly be a result of:

A) Drank too much kool-aid

B) On Drugs

C) Never had a lick to begin with

\:D
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There is a difference between mature,and "BIG" bucks


Very little in my book. Seen very few that it didnt go hand and hand. Yet to see one id pass up anyway. \:\)

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#1843173 - 03/18/10 05:16 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck

There are several elements that come into play on how big there racks get... Age can play apart but soil and genetics might play a bigger part...


No they dont play a bigger part. You should read some before you post.

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#1843255 - 03/18/10 07:07 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
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so our buck #s went thru the roof when we had a 2 buck limit for a bunch of years correct?,i seen no kill off when we went to 3 bucks any weapon,show the stats where our buck #s were on the rise along with the ages,didn't you shoot a 2.5 year old this past season bigwes50 after telling folks to letem go letem grow ? \:\) ,im going to stay legal & enjoy all the hunting time i can,if you want to shorten your season & time in the woods & your harvest #s have at it but dont try to brow beat others that hunt within the framework twra has set,twra has more data than you will ever be able to look up on the web because they have men trained for the job doing their job well 365 days a year,im done now \:\) ,mike243


Excellent post.I agree.


I wouldn't think that buck would only be 2.5 years old... That would be kind of young for a one buck limit guy.... "Let them walk, let them them grow....."


This is the buck everybody keeps mentioning Football hunter. I shot this buck when I jumped him up in a field and had a split second and pulled the trigger. I had several really nice bucks on my cam in this area and thought this was 1 of them turns out I never had a single pic of this buck and he was a 2.5year old that had a really hard rut or ehd survivor? It was the only buck I took last year so 1 buck limit would have been fine considering I shot him in December. I don't see how a buck with a rack like this 1 and a 1.5year forkhorn can be considered the same? I'm a 300lb man so the buck wasn't as small as the pics show it. But anyways bash away!

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#1843268 - 03/18/10 07:18 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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Thats funny you mentioned that... The other day I just read the Tennessee Sportsman Dec/Jan 2010 and I noticed in one of the articles "10 Top Public Lands for Late-Season Deer.. that soil is mentioned several times when talking about the deer herd in certain areas.... This is one of many articles that I have seen, that mention soil as one of the key factors.... I guess hunting shows leave that out.... Never seen many filmed in E. TN....
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#1843271 - 03/18/10 07:20 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: mike243
so our buck #s went thru the roof when we had a 2 buck limit for a bunch of years correct?,i seen no kill off when we went to 3 bucks any weapon,show the stats where our buck #s were on the rise along with the ages,didn't you shoot a 2.5 year old this past season bigwes50 after telling folks to letem go letem grow ? \:\) ,im going to stay legal & enjoy all the hunting time i can,if you want to shorten your season & time in the woods & your harvest #s have at it but dont try to brow beat others that hunt within the framework twra has set,twra has more data than you will ever be able to look up on the web because they have men trained for the job doing their job well 365 days a year,im done now \:\) ,mike243


Excellent post.I agree.


I wouldn't think that buck would only be 2.5 years old... That would be kind of young for a one buck limit guy.... "Let them walk, let them them grow....."


This is the buck everybody keeps mentioning Football hunter. I shot this buck when I jumped him up in a field and had a split second and pulled the trigger. I had several really nice bucks on my cam in this area and thought this was 1 of them turns out I never had a single pic of this buck and he was a 2.5year old that had a really hard rut or ehd survivor? It was the only buck I took last year so 1 buck limit would have been fine considering I shot him in December. I don't see how a buck with a rack like this 1 and a 1.5year forkhorn can be considered the same? I'm a 300lb man so the buck wasn't as small as the pics show it. But anyways bash away!



How much did that deer weigh... field dressed....? I had a buddy that killed a 3.5 yr old 8pt. that had a nice rack but a small body... On the other hand I have seen some big body deer that had small racks in TN... I guess with the different genetic type of deer that were released in TN years ago, you never know what you might see...


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/18/10 07:32 AM)

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#1843327 - 03/18/10 08:11 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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There are several elements that come into play on how big there racks get... Age can play apart but soil and genetics might play a bigger part...


G-N-B of the three which one can we change?


Edited by 8 POINTS OR BETTER (03/18/10 08:12 AM)
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#1843369 - 03/18/10 08:41 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
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There are several elements that come into play on how big there racks get... Age can play apart but soil and genetics might play a bigger part...


G-N-B of the three which one can we change?


I agree... The only one that we can change would be age but thats not going to give some of these hunters the high goals that they have set in their minds for the state of TN... Then we have to look at does it make sense to change regs. that are not going to benefit the majority of hunters in TN, that have different goals... There are several factors that come into play and I think TWRA does a great job considering all those factors.... JMO

P.S. Its always fun watching these buck limit polls on TN Deer... The polls always show that the majority of the hunters on TN Deer are happy with the existing buck limits... The other things I find interesting about these polls is that there is a certain group that will never let the polls run its course and they start bashing and call the poll dumb...


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/18/10 08:42 AM)

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#1843392 - 03/18/10 08:56 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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Dang Wes, you sure you didn't photoshop that head onto that deer?! \:D Just joshing ya bud.
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#1843414 - 03/18/10 09:05 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: BigWes50
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: mike243
so our buck #s went thru the roof when we had a 2 buck limit for a bunch of years correct?,i seen no kill off when we went to 3 bucks any weapon,show the stats where our buck #s were on the rise along with the ages,didn't you shoot a 2.5 year old this past season bigwes50 after telling folks to letem go letem grow ? \:\) ,im going to stay legal & enjoy all the hunting time i can,if you want to shorten your season & time in the woods & your harvest #s have at it but dont try to brow beat others that hunt within the framework twra has set,twra has more data than you will ever be able to look up on the web because they have men trained for the job doing their job well 365 days a year,im done now \:\) ,mike243


Excellent post.I agree.


I wouldn't think that buck would only be 2.5 years old... That would be kind of young for a one buck limit guy.... "Let them walk, let them them grow....."


This is the buck everybody keeps mentioning Football hunter. I shot this buck when I jumped him up in a field and had a split second and pulled the trigger. I had several really nice bucks on my cam in this area and thought this was 1 of them turns out I never had a single pic of this buck and he was a 2.5year old that had a really hard rut or ehd survivor? It was the only buck I took last year so 1 buck limit would have been fine considering I shot him in December. I don't see how a buck with a rack like this 1 and a 1.5year forkhorn can be considered the same? I'm a 300lb man so the buck wasn't as small as the pics show it. But anyways bash away!



How much did that deer weigh... field dressed....? I had a buddy that killed a 3.5 yr old 8pt. that had a nice rack but a small body... On the other hand I have seen some big body deer that had small racks in TN... I guess with the different genetic type of deer that were released in TN years ago, you never know what you might see...


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#1843416 - 03/18/10 09:06 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
I agree... The only one that we can change would be age but thats not going to give some of these hunters the high goals that they have set in their minds for the state of TN...


I don't think anyone has said TN can compete with KY or anyone other state, for that matter. I think the key word here is "improvement". Could we produce more and bigger bucks than we presently do? Sure! How much better? No one can say for certain. But if you think the buck hunting in TN is the best it could ever be, it's not. Improvements can always be made.
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#1843419 - 03/18/10 09:07 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: MUP]
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Dang Wes, you sure you didn't photoshop that head onto that deer?! \:D Just joshing ya bud.


You should have been there when it happened! I thought I had killed that big 8point that I had all those trail cam pictures of, called my wife and told her I just shot Zoro, when I walked up on the buck I was like, who is this?
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#1843446 - 03/18/10 09:19 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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I agree... The only one that we can change would be age but thats not going to give some of these hunters the high goals that they have set in their minds for the state of TN...


I don't think anyone has said TN can compete with KY or anyone other state, for that matter. I think the key word here is "improvement". Could we produce more and bigger bucks than we presently do? Sure! How much better? No one can say for certain. But if you think the buck hunting in TN is the best it could ever be, it's not. Improvements can always be made.
i agree nobody saying that we will have B&C around every corner but we could improve

i like 3 buck limit but think that everybody could benefit if we did drop the limits on bucks and allow does to be harvested at anytime with any weapon

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#1843457 - 03/18/10 09:25 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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Dang Wes, you sure you didn't photoshop that head onto that deer?! \:D Just joshing ya bud.


You should have been there when it happened! I thought I had killed that big 8point that I had all those trail cam pictures of, called my wife and told her I just shot Zoro, when I walked up on the buck I was like, who is this?


\:D Hey! Somebody shot this buck and took Zoro!! \:D
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#1843486 - 03/18/10 09:43 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: MUP]
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Dang Wes, you sure you didn't photoshop that head onto that deer?! \:D Just joshing ya bud.


You should have been there when it happened! I thought I had killed that big 8point that I had all those trail cam pictures of, called my wife and told her I just shot Zoro, when I walked up on the buck I was like, who is this?


\:D Hey! Somebody shot this buck and took Zoro!! \:D


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#1843511 - 03/18/10 09:58 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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The other day I just read the Tennessee Sportsman Dec/Jan 2010 and I noticed in one of the articles "10 Top Public Lands for Late-Season Deer.. that soil is mentioned several times when talking about the deer herd in certain areas.... This is one of many articles that I have seen, that mention soil as one of the key factors.... I guess hunting shows leave that out.... Never seen many filmed in E. TN....


Well soil is important but it isnt worth a hill of beans without age. A 2.5 yr old in Butler Co, KY, Buffalo Co, Wisc or Knox Co, TN wont be a big buck 99.9% of the time at that age. Ive seen plenty of big bucks come out of east TN. Several of the top B&C counties are in Unit B, Fentress and Hawkins for starters. The top typical is from Cumberland Co. HAAP grows monsters every year and i was at the checking station the first year Oak Ridge WMA had a deer hunt (Monsters galore!). Not to mention all of the trail cam and harvest pics from east TN posted on this site. So i dont know what youve been reading about soil that has you convinced that TN cant grow big bucks because of it. If you cant see it, i dont really know what to tell you. Sorry i guess.

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#1843526 - 03/18/10 10:04 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
The other day I just read the Tennessee Sportsman Dec/Jan 2010 and I noticed in one of the articles "10 Top Public Lands for Late-Season Deer.. that soil is mentioned several times when talking about the deer herd in certain areas.... This is one of many articles that I have seen, that mention soil as one of the key factors.... I guess hunting shows leave that out.... Never seen many filmed in E. TN....


Well soil is important but it isnt worth a hill of beans without age. A 2.5 yr old in Butler Co, KY, Buffalo Co, Wisc or Knox Co, TN wont be a big buck 99.9% of the time at that age. Ive seen plenty of big bucks come out of east TN. Several of the top B&C counties are in Unit B, Fentress and Hawkins for starters. The top typical is from cumberland county. AEDC grows monsters every year and i was at the checking station the first year Oak Ridge WMA had a deer hunt (Monsters galore!). Not to mention all of the trail cam and harvest pics from east TN posted on this site. So i dont know what youve been reading about soil that has you convinced that TN cant grow big bucks. If you cant see it, i dont really know what to tell you. Sorry i guess.


Evidently, GnB hasn't heard of an East TN hunter named Bobby Worthington. He hunts public land, by the way.
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#1843548 - 03/18/10 10:14 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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Thats funny you mentioned that... The other day I just read the Tennessee Sportsman Dec/Jan 2010 and I noticed in one of the articles "10 Top Public Lands for Late-Season Deer.. that soil is mentioned several times when talking about the deer herd in certain areas.... This is one of many articles that I have seen, that mention soil as one of the key factors.... I guess hunting shows leave that out.... Never seen many filmed in E. TN....


I'm almost certain Bobby Worthington films all his hunts. I would post some of his kill pics, but I'm sure they're copyrighted material. He is a super great guy and would probably be more than helpful in pointing you in the right direction if you would like to see his East TN kills on video.

http://bobbyworthington.com/
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#1843560 - 03/18/10 10:18 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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Im sure Winchester, Steven Stone, and 102 could show you a few east TN deer too.
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#1843604 - 03/18/10 10:43 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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Heres just a few of my bucks from East TN in the last 3 or 4 years, not many but these are the only ones I have pic access to from this particular computer.
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#1843615 - 03/18/10 10:47 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Swamphunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
C
2 buck limit would be perfect.


I agree.

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#1843622 - 03/18/10 10:49 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Lee Creek22]
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Those are some really nice East TN deer.
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#1843635 - 03/18/10 11:02 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Lee Creek22]
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He must have had his own soil brought in and put on his property. LOL just aggravating.
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#1843641 - 03/18/10 11:05 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: mallardman09]
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 Originally Posted By: DrenalinXT08
He must have had his own soil brought in and put on his property. LOL just aggravating.

LOL I wish xt, many of those are from public property!

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#1843647 - 03/18/10 11:08 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Winchester]
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Hey Winchester, where did you kill that monster at thats not in these pics? That light horned joker.
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#1843681 - 03/18/10 11:25 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
Hey Winchester, where did you kill that monster at thats not in these pics? That light horned joker.

Im not sure which one your talking about? I have killed several more and some them from middle and West TN in the last few years that I didnt put pics of, didnt wanna be accused of false info!!lol
It may be this one I killed with my bow a couple years ago?
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#1843691 - 03/18/10 11:31 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Winchester]
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I think that might be the one. Who knows, hard to keep up with you. LOL
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#1843728 - 03/18/10 11:53 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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#1843739 - 03/18/10 11:57 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
Tennessees buck limit is:

A) Too Low

B) About right

C) Too High


From a personal standpoint,. i say A. Simply because i have more than 3 places to hunt,. i should be allowed at least 1 buck from each place i have to hunt. If i had 10 places to hunt,.. it should be 10 buck limit. Call it selfish!!
From a management standpoint,.. i say C. I understand that in some areas,. the deer density and hunter density should allow for a lower buck harvest per hunter to save the resource and overall health of the herd,.. thus a lower limit is necassary. Thus,.. i know i may be unsuccessful,. but someone else may be successful in taking the animal they choose,. and if not,.. that buck will be allowed to grow another year,.. and help with the structure on our standing herd. Thus,.. the buck limit should be lowered to 2 bucks,.. equal oppurtunity and the resource is better protected for our future hunters.
Wasn't sure which answer you wanted,. you pick it.
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#1843787 - 03/18/10 12:37 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Tree Tramp]
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 Originally Posted By: Tree Tramp
Im sure Winchester, Steven Stone, and 102 could show you a few east TN deer too.


I can show you a couple from E. TN that is hanging in my house but on AVG.. You got to put the work in to find them... There are nice deer in TN but I think some peoples expectations might be a little off...JMO

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#1843808 - 03/18/10 12:51 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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Those are all great E.TN bucks, I do believe age is the most important factor(its not the only factor)but the most important on how big a buck can get body wise and rack size!
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#1843809 - 03/18/10 12:51 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: mallardman09]
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 Originally Posted By: DrenalinXT08
He must have had his own soil brought in and put on his property. LOL just aggravating.


I agree 100%
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#1844094 - 03/18/10 05:24 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: BigWes50]
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 Originally Posted By: DrenalinXT08
He must have had his own soil brought in and put on his property. LOL just aggravating.


I agree 100%
Nope. The deer probably escaped from KY and he intercepted them because everyone knows that we can't grow bucks like this in TN under the current regulations! \:D

Good bucks winchester and Gator-n-buck.
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#1844161 - 03/18/10 06:47 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
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no need to feel bad about shooting a decent buck,the only ones i have ever felt bad about were a couple of button bucks,they ate just fine though \:\) ,mike243
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#1844854 - 03/18/10 10:50 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: budro2
 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck


Who has better whiskey? Ky or TN.......


TN \:D



But people will say it is aged longer in Ky. \:D


its because of the SOIL man!!!


I went back and read several hunting mags. over the last several months, several experts use soil as the main reason for why an area produces certain deer... Must be something to it... I asked my dad the other day that is mainly a coon hunter why is deer bigger (Racks) in certain areas... This man has been hunting over 50 yrs.. down in FL and the first thing that came out of his mouth was soil... He mentioned a few other factors like genetics and age but he thought soil was the most important... If my daddy says it, than I'm sticking to it... This brings up another point... If TN doesn't have the right elements to produce big bucks because of soil and genetics... Will some people always be in denial and can't except the truth... I will be the first to tell you that my home state has small bucks and small racks but we have one heck of a football team "Gators"...

I am sure your daddy is a fine man, but it is very evident neither of you dont know much about TN as a whole ( soils) or anything about Ky except what you have read on this site or in a few mag.
And bragging on them oversized Lizards, I mean "Gators" on a TN site, just aint real bright.

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#1845012 - 03/19/10 06:31 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: budro2]
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Good lookin deer GnB congrats
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#1845078 - 03/19/10 07:48 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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Good lookin deer GnB congrats


Thanks... I just threw those up to show that not all hunters that are against a one buck limit, are meat hunters or kill the first thing that comes walking bye (Unit B/E. TN)... I think Winchester summed it up.... There are a lot of us that want to have the opportunity to shoot more than one nice buck per season...

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#1845116 - 03/19/10 08:23 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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I took this SE Tn buck, after passing on a niiiiice button!

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#1845128 - 03/19/10 08:35 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
Good lookin deer GnB congrats


Thanks... I just threw those up to show that not all hunters that are against a one buck limit, are meat hunters or kill the first thing that comes walking bye (Unit B/E. TN)... I think Winchester summed it up.... There are a lot of us that want to have the opportunity to shoot more than one nice buck per season...


No offense GnB, but I would be irate if one of my group shot the buck in the second pic on either of our farms. We generally let those kind walk. I'm not saying it isn't a nice buck, but that's not what we're after. I guess the point I'm trying to make is "the first thing that comes walking bye" is different to different people. The first and third one (same buck I assume) is a pretty good buck.
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#1845179 - 03/19/10 09:13 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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Sounds like you guys are showing some trigger restraint YoDog. Hows it working out for you?
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#1845194 - 03/19/10 09:35 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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Sounds like you guys are showing some trigger restraint YoDog. Hows it working out for you?


It's working out fairly well. Last year we had a mid 120's gross 9 pt killed in bow season (3.5), a huge 140 gross 12 pt in rifle (4.5), a 2.5 yr old 8 pt (big mistake!), and a crippled freak with 3 main beams that's the most messed up buck I've ever seen! He had a single spike growing out of the side of his head that was probably 12-14 inches long. He had a front leg cut off at the knee and looked to have been that way for some time. Looked like you cut it off with a hack saw. I have no idea what would have cut it so clean. We saw less bucks last year than we've ever seen. I would say that's a good reason for our "mistake" buck, but hey it happens. I have three 90-110" bucks on trail cam pics that made it through for sure. I let all of these bucks walk, one on numerous occasions. They should all be shooters next year. We only protect 1.5 year olds, so everything else is fair game. The 2.5 year old "mistake" would have been a bruiser next year. The buck below is the oldest we've taken off the property. I killed this buck during the 07 drought season. This buck was 6.5, though you wouldn't think so just by his rack:

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#1845212 - 03/19/10 09:42 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
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Good lookin deer GnB congrats


Thanks... I just threw those up to show that not all hunters that are against a one buck limit, are meat hunters or kill the first thing that comes walking bye (Unit B/E. TN)... I think Winchester summed it up.... There are a lot of us that want to have the opportunity to shoot more than one nice buck per season...


No offense GnB, but I would be irate if one of my group shot the buck in the second pic on either of our farms. We generally let those kind walk. I'm not saying it isn't a nice buck, but that's not what we're after. I guess the point I'm trying to make is "the first thing that comes walking bye" is different to different people. The first and third one (same buck I assume) is a pretty good buck.


That buck was a 3.5 yr old (per TWRA) and dressed out at 150 lbs... (approx 190-195 on the hoof). He was old enough by my standards... and thats, all that counts...

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#1845214 - 03/19/10 09:44 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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Nice buck MUP, that dude has it all mass, long G-4s, body weight hes a bruiser buddy.
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#1845223 - 03/19/10 09:51 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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Nice buck MUP, that dude has it all mass, long G-4s, body weight hes a bruiser buddy.


Thanks Keith. He FD'd 174lb and was aged at 3.5 by TWRA at the check station. Also green scored 138-3/8. He did have the mass tho, the pic really doesn't do him justice, as he was only 15-1/8 inside.
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#1845228 - 03/19/10 09:53 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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Nice buck MUP, that dude has it all mass, long G-4s, body weight hes a bruiser buddy.


X2... That is a hoss MUP..

P.S. Yodel, since you can talk smack with the best of us... Throw a few pics of your bucks on here... Like to see the ones you have killed in W. TN...

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#1845231 - 03/19/10 09:54 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: MUP]
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TN RDG RNR, one other interesting thing about the drought buck above. He had hickory nut hulls in his stomach and in his mouth! Just goes to show how hard that year was on our deer.
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#1845241 - 03/19/10 09:59 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
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Nice buck MUP, that dude has it all mass, long G-4s, body weight hes a bruiser buddy.


X2... That is a hoss MUP..

P.S. Yodel, since you can talk smack with the best of us... Throw a few pics of your bucks on here... Like to see the ones you have killed in W. TN...


I don't hunt West TN, I hunt Mid TN. I will be happy to post pics when I get home. They're not on this computer. Smack? Not sure what you're talking about. TN RDG RNR asked a question and I answered it. I don't brag about the bucks I kill. There's alot of hunters in TN that kill a lot bigger bucks than I could ever hope to.
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#1845271 - 03/19/10 10:28 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
Throw a few pics of your bucks on here... Like to see the ones you have killed in W. TN...


Here's one I had on my phone. The photo quality isn't that great. This buck was 4.5 and killed with a rifle. We still hunt the property this buck was killed on, but it has heavy hunting pressure on the surrounding properties. Any good buck we take on this property is a "bonus" as we see few shooters after the rut starts.


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#1845285 - 03/19/10 10:42 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
Throw a few pics of your bucks on here... Like to see the ones you have killed in W. TN...


Here's one I had on my phone. The photo quality isn't that great. This buck was 4.5 and killed with a rifle. We still hunt the property this buck was killed on, but it has heavy hunting pressure on the surrounding properties. Any good buck we take on this property is a "bonus" as we see few shooters after the rut starts.





Thats a nice one...

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#1845287 - 03/19/10 10:45 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
Throw a few pics of your bucks on here... Like to see the ones you have killed in W. TN...


Here's another. I killed this buck during the 08 MZ season. My taxidermist scored him 119" gross. I've never put a tape on him, so I can't say for sure. He was 3.5. I took this pic with my phone while he was drying at the taxidermist. Another pic of this buck is in the TnDeer Trophy Room under Maury Co. Gator, I'll pm more if you like so I don't hijack someone else's thread.

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#1845293 - 03/19/10 10:49 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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 Originally Posted By: Yodel Dog
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
Throw a few pics of your bucks on here... Like to see the ones you have killed in W. TN...


Here's another. I killed this buck during the 08 MZ season. My taxidermist scored him 119" gross. I've never put a tape on him, so I can't say for sure. He was 3.5. I took this pic with my phone while he was drying at the taxidermist. Another pic of this buck is in the TnDeer Trophy Room under Maury Co. Gator, I'll pm more if you like so I don't hijack someone else's thread.




Beekeeper is cool... This thread got hijacked along time ago by a certain group that didn't like the poll... Thats common on here and the polls always show that the majority of the hunters on TN Deer agree with TWRA...

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#1845297 - 03/19/10 10:51 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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 Originally Posted By: Yodel Dog
A) I'm converting to a "brown and downer" in 2010! I'm killing everything I see! Does, buttons, yearlings, they're all fair game. Get ready for some kill pics, boys! Here's the new me:



This would be considered a hijacking.... LOL.. Its all in fun... I hope I can kill 3 nice bucks next year...

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#1845300 - 03/19/10 10:54 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
Beekeeper is cool... This thread got hijacked along time ago by a certain group that didn't like the poll... Thats common on here and the polls always show that the majority of the hunters on TN Deer agree with TWRA...


That's all I have on my phone. The rest are on my home computer.
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#1845305 - 03/19/10 10:56 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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This would be considered a hijacking.... LOL.. Its all in fun...


LOL! I had to find a way to put that pic on here! I thought this thread would be a good place to do it. Sort of break the tension! \:\)
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#1845332 - 03/19/10 11:07 AM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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I hope I can kill 3 nice bucks next year...

I usually do good to get one. I'm content with killing one good racked 3.5-4.5 year old every year. Sad to say, it doesn't happen for me every year, though. I'm on a 3 year streak now, I just hope it doesn't end!
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#1845385 - 03/19/10 12:06 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Yodel Dog]
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 Originally Posted By: Yodel Dog

TN RDG RNR asked a question and I answered it. I don't brag about the bucks I kill. There's alot of hunters in TN that kill a lot bigger bucks than I could ever hope to.


Its easier to persuade people by showing positive results YoDog rather than being confrontational.

I dont see you posting pics of what yall have accomplished on your property as bragging. I personally think its just promotes more of the same.

Most hunters want to shoot big buck they just dont want to be told that they have to.


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#1845640 - 03/19/10 04:16 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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#1845653 - 03/19/10 04:24 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Panther78]
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Check out the thread in the general forum about TWRA's sunset status. It is more important than what we are kicking around here.
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#1845737 - 03/19/10 05:59 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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 Originally Posted By: Yodel Dog

TN RDG RNR asked a question and I answered it. I don't brag about the bucks I kill. There's alot of hunters in TN that kill a lot bigger bucks than I could ever hope to.


Its easier to persuade people by showing positive results YoDog rather than being confrontational.

I dont see you posting pics of what yall have accomplished on your property as bragging. I personally think its just promotes more of the same.

Most hunters want to shoot big buck they just dont want to be told that they have to.




AMEN... \:D \:\)
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#1845751 - 03/19/10 06:20 PM Re: What should thw buck limit be in TN? [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
Check out the thread in the general forum about TWRA's sunset status. It is more important than what we are kicking around here.


I agree! I'm really upset by this!
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