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#1838634 - 03/14/10 02:38 PM Mapping Trophy Bucks
Pursuit Hunter
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On a separate thread, several guys were talking about the book Mapping Trophy Bucks. Well, I had to have it. I got it and spent yesterday reading it and this morning writing a book review on it. Despite a couple issues that I talk about in my review here http://www.pursuithunting.com/2010/03/mapping-trophy-bucks-book-review.html I thought it was a pretty good overview of terrain features, thier influence on deer movement, and how to recognize them on a topo map.
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#1838756 - 03/14/10 04:06 PM Re: Mapping Trophy Bucks [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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I admire all of your posts Pursuit Hunter and really enjoyed the Nat'l Geographic topo tutorial. But I've read the book three times from cover to cover and didn't/don't see all the negatives you point out in your review. I am by no means as experienced or accomplished in the whitetail world as you are and maybe I have read it with a beginners attitude in mind.

I somewhat feel embarassed about talking so highly of this book now.
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#1838760 - 03/14/10 04:08 PM Re: Mapping Trophy Bucks [Re: whistlinwingman]
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Thanks for the info and I will have to get a copy and try it out...
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#1838780 - 03/14/10 04:18 PM Re: Mapping Trophy Bucks [Re: gator-n-buck]
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Have read mine twice
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#1838795 - 03/14/10 04:33 PM Re: Mapping Trophy Bucks [Re: whistlinwingman]
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 Originally Posted By: whistlinwingman
I admire all of your posts Pursuit Hunter and really enjoyed the Nat'l Geographic topo tutorial. But I've read the book three times from cover to cover and didn't/don't see all the negatives you point out in your review. I am by no means as experienced or accomplished in the whitetail world as you are and maybe I have read it with a beginners attitude in mind.

I somewhat feel embarassed about talking so highly of this book now.


Dude! No reason to feel embarassed. Overall, I think it is a very good book. I just think it is missing one huge point regarding reading sign in conjunction with using terrain features. The other gripes I had were just me being me (picky). I'm glad you recommended it. If nothing else, I came away with at least a dozen ideas of things to write about in the future. Thanks.


Edited by Pursuit Hunter (03/14/10 04:39 PM)
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#1838819 - 03/14/10 04:54 PM Re: Mapping Trophy Bucks [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Pursuit Hunter
 Originally Posted By: whistlinwingman
I admire all of your posts Pursuit Hunter and really enjoyed the Nat'l Geographic topo tutorial. But I've read the book three times from cover to cover and didn't/don't see all the negatives you point out in your review. I am by no means as experienced or accomplished in the whitetail world as you are and maybe I have read it with a beginners attitude in mind.

I somewhat feel embarassed about talking so highly of this book now.


Dude! No reason to feel embarassed. Overall, I think it is a very good book. I just think it is missing one huge point regarding reading sign in conjunction with using terrain features. The other gripes I had were just me being me (picky). I'm glad you recommended it. If nothing else, I came away with at least a dozen ideas of things to write about in the future. Thanks.


Good deal then. I think I assumed that he had to be "reading sign" to even consider hunting these areas. I know he didn't mention sign and I think he even said he didn't care if sign was there or not. I know in everyone of his examples there were multiple trails leading in or around his area. So whether he admits it or not he is using sign for stand locations IMO.
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#1838999 - 03/14/10 06:59 PM Re: Mapping Trophy Bucks [Re: whistlinwingman]
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GREAT book ..
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#1839042 - 03/14/10 07:20 PM Re: Mapping Trophy Bucks [Re: whistlinwingman]
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That could be, but keep in mind, the presence of a trail doesn't mean that deer are actively using it at that time. For example, there are lots of trails that get heavily used in the summer when deer are feeding primarily on browse that won't be used at all later in the season when there are acorns on the ground. Unless there is sign like fresh tracks or fresh droppings in the trail, you really have no idea whether the deer are using it or not.

Again, I think the book does a great job of pointing out terrain features on which to concentrate your detailed scouting. I just think it is a pretty unproductive strategy on average to hunt something like a saddle just because it is a saddle. That's not to say that it won't sometimes pay off though.

On the other hand, for someone who doesn't have much time to scout, hunting the types of locations he talks about will certainly improve your odds versus picking a location at random.
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#1839102 - 03/14/10 07:52 PM Re: Mapping Trophy Bucks [Re: Pursuit Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Pursuit Hunter
On the other hand, for someone who doesn't have much time to scout, hunting the types of locations he talks about will certainly improve your odds versus picking a location at random.


Great way of stating it Pursuit Hunter. Many terrain features are great places to start scouting or hunt if you don't have the time to scout.
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#1839111 - 03/14/10 07:54 PM Re: Mapping Trophy Bucks [Re: BSK]
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I havent read it but, think Ill give it a look sounds interesting.
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