#1831271 - 03/10/10 08:52 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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If I read the article correctly they seem to be trying to increase the deer herd in several counties.
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#1831291 - 03/10/10 08:59 AM
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If I read the article correctly they seem to be trying to increase the deer herd in several counties.
Yep they are.
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#1831348 - 03/10/10 09:29 AM
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Wow, where I grew up (proposed move to Zone 3) only a 10-day gun season. I'm SOOOOO glad I don't hunt in KY anymore.
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#1831366 - 03/10/10 09:35 AM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky.
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#1831369 - 03/10/10 09:37 AM
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KY has had a tremendous amount of hunting pressure increase in the last 10 yrs since becoming one of the big buck states. Its also the closest to the South, where many deep southerners go to avoid long travels in chase of big antlers!
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#1831375 - 03/10/10 09:42 AM
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Yes dont go to KY it sucks. Lots of hunting pressure and short seasons. No deer either dont hunt there. Hunt only in TN greatest mananged deer herd on planet forum.
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#1831483 - 03/10/10 10:43 AM
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Yes dont go to KY it sucks. Lots of hunting pressure and short seasons. No deer either dont hunt there. Hunt only in TN greatest mananged deer herd on planet forum.
Oh my gosh to funny!
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#1831484 - 03/10/10 10:43 AM
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KY has had a tremendous amount of hunting pressure increase in the last 10 yrs since becoming one of the big buck states. Its also the closest to the South, where many deep southerners go to avoid long travels in chase of big antlers!
So true!
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#1831546 - 03/10/10 11:11 AM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky.
Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either!
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#1831549 - 03/10/10 11:13 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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Hunt only in TN greatest mananged deer herd on planet forum.
I couldn't agree more. What's not to like? More deer, more mature deer, longer more liberal seasons which results in more mature deer harvested. Dang we have it good!
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#1831550 - 03/10/10 11:14 AM
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Yes dont go to KY it sucks. Lots of hunting pressure and short seasons. No deer either dont hunt there. Hunt only in TN greatest mananged deer herd on planet forum. Oh my gosh to funny!
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#1831582 - 03/10/10 11:40 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! if you hunted the farms i've had a chance to hunt you would not be so quick to say that but dont get me wrong i like hunting TN also and i might not be so quick to say that if i had to hunt where some have to in this state
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#1831615 - 03/10/10 11:59 AM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! if you hunted the farms i've had a chance to hunt you would not be so quick to say that but dont get me wrong i like hunting TN also and i might not be so quick to say that if i had to hunt where some have to in this state
I grew up hunting some of the hottest areas going (Logan, Butler, Todd counties). Where I hunt now in TN is better.
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#1831618 - 03/10/10 12:00 PM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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The county my land is in is proposed to go to zone 3...I like it. We had the biggest buck in the state killed there and the hunters have really rolled in. I like TN and KY both, but until you see what its like in counties like Butler and Ohio you cant imagine the pressure.
Its not like Im thinking those 10 days arent going to be pure mayham. Ill be at my land opening weekend to run off tresspassers...
Additonally, these areas of KY got hit hard by EDH like areas I know in Hickman co. TN...except we KY didnt have the heard #'s to start with.
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#1831622 - 03/10/10 12:03 PM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! if you hunted the farms i've had a chance to hunt you would not be so quick to say that but dont get me wrong i like hunting TN also and i might not be so quick to say that if i had to hunt where some have to in this state I grew up hunting some of the hottest areas going (Logan, Butler, Todd counties). Where I hunt now in TN is better.
I hunt butler and there are some hoss bucks. Ive killed better bucks in KY. Ive also worked a lot harder for them so maybe with the same work I would have killed the same quality of deer in TN...there are a lot fewer deer in Butler than there are the unit L counties I typically hunt in TN.
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#1831627 - 03/10/10 12:08 PM
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Hunt only in TN greatest mananged deer herd on planet forum. I couldn't agree more. What's not to like? More deer, more mature deer, longer more liberal seasons which results in more mature deer harvested. Dang we have it good!
I can't stand the out of state hunters clogging up the intersates weeks before opening day to have a chance at a once in a lifetime, mature buck. Heck, you couldn't even get into a check station to check a deer because of traffic until we implemented internet check-in last year.
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#1831706 - 03/10/10 12:56 PM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! if you hunted the farms i've had a chance to hunt you would not be so quick to say that but dont get me wrong i like hunting TN also and i might not be so quick to say that if i had to hunt where some have to in this state I grew up hunting some of the hottest areas going (Logan, Butler, Todd counties). Where I hunt now in TN is better.
The area in Tn that I grew up hunting is Coffee County and I can say that without a doubt it doesn't even begin to compare to the farms that I hunt in Christian and Todd County KY as far as quality. I know there are some great areas in TN that produce big mature bucks its just that my area isn't one of them. I let several bucks walk each year in KY that I wouldn't even think about letting walk in Coffee Co. I am sure that someone can show pics of some bucks from around my area that are really nice bucks but its definately not the norm. TN may have more mature bucks but speaking from my experience in my area I would rather kill a mature buck in KY that is 140 plus instead of a mature Coffee County buck that is 90-115 inches. I know the gun season in KY is shorter but isn't the deer season there actually longer than TN although you would have to bow hunt ? jmo
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#1831770 - 03/10/10 01:28 PM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! if you hunted the farms i've had a chance to hunt you would not be so quick to say that but dont get me wrong i like hunting TN also and i might not be so quick to say that if i had to hunt where some have to in this state I grew up hunting some of the hottest areas going (Logan, Butler, Todd counties). Where I hunt now in TN is better. In what way?
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#1831852 - 03/10/10 02:15 PM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! with all that good soil and it being so easy a monkey could manage it
was it KY's fault or yours
and do you still have any connections in that area because i would love to give it a try
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#1831853 - 03/10/10 02:15 PM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! if you hunted the farms i've had a chance to hunt you would not be so quick to say that but dont get me wrong i like hunting TN also and i might not be so quick to say that if i had to hunt where some have to in this state I grew up hunting some of the hottest areas going (Logan, Butler, Todd counties). Where I hunt now in TN is better. The area in Tn that I grew up hunting is Coffee County and I can say that without a doubt it doesn't even begin to compare to the farms that I hunt in Christian and Todd County KY as far as quality. I know there are some great areas in TN that produce big mature bucks its just that my area isn't one of them. I let several bucks walk each year in KY that I wouldn't even think about letting walk in Coffee Co. I am sure that someone can show pics of some bucks from around my area that are really nice bucks but its definately not the norm. TN may have more mature bucks but speaking from my experience in my area I would rather kill a mature buck in KY that is 140 plus instead of a mature Coffee County buck that is 90-115 inches. I know the gun season in KY is shorter but isn't the deer season there actually longer than TN although you would have to bow hunt ? jmo
Yes, it is longer if you bow hunt. KY's bow season starts near Labor Day and runs into January.
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#1831866 - 03/10/10 02:22 PM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! if you hunted the farms i've had a chance to hunt you would not be so quick to say that but dont get me wrong i like hunting TN also and i might not be so quick to say that if i had to hunt where some have to in this state I grew up hunting some of the hottest areas going (Logan, Butler, Todd counties). Where I hunt now in TN is better. In what way?
Every way except true top-end antler potential. Just about anything is physically possible in those parts of KY, but those truly top-end animals are still exceptionally rare.
In TN I have longer firearms seasons, more deer, more mature bucks, and less hunting pressure. It's just an all around better hunting experience. Hunting pressure is so concentrated, gun season is a mad-house in that part of KY. Where I hunt in TN it would be unusual to hear more than half a dozen gun-shots opening weekend, and it gets really quiet after that. The only "pressure patterns" the local deer move to is due to our hunting activity instead of what is happening on surrounding properties. Plus we always have a couple fairly top-end bucks (for the area--pushing 160) to pursue without fear our neighbors are going to kill them (at least they haven't gotten one of our top-end bucks yet over the 11 years we've been running trail-cams and knew what was out there).
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#1831871 - 03/10/10 02:25 PM
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was it KY's fault or yours
KY's fault for having such short seasons which intensify hunting pressure, making for an unpleasant hunting experience.
and do you still have any connections in that area because i would love to give it a try
I have lots of land to hunt in KY, including my family's farm. But the hunting is so much better in TN why would I want to go back up there and face the Orange Army?
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#1831924 - 03/10/10 03:00 PM
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Criticize their "Mecca" and the trophyists go berserk! LOL
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#1831958 - 03/10/10 03:21 PM
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Have about a 1200 acre property to hunt. Actually only hunt about 800 acres of it. Average # of guys hunting at once, about 5 or 6. This year, one in the 140" range, two in the 130", two more in the 115". One of the 115" was a mature buck that was at his potential, great mass, just no length. The other was a bad mistake. 125" min. on 8's and 135" on 9's, unless it's a mature buck. With a total of about 8 hunters, we've had no problem of taking 5 or 6 every year. The hard part is watching those 100-110" deer walk by. We also had one guy loose one during bow and one during muzzle that would be in the 130" class. Not bad for a property within 25 minutes or so of downtown Nashville.
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#1832076 - 03/10/10 05:02 PM
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Sounds like a great place jb3.
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#1832092 - 03/10/10 05:13 PM
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! if you hunted the farms i've had a chance to hunt you would not be so quick to say that but dont get me wrong i like hunting TN also and i might not be so quick to say that if i had to hunt where some have to in this state I have seen some lease openings posted on here that would put you where the deer are in TN.
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#1832140 - 03/10/10 05:34 PM
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I have lots of land to hunt in KY, including my family's farm. But the hunting is so much better in TN why would I want to go back up there and face the Orange Army?
Man I wish we could trade. It would save me a lot of gas money and time. You can't be serious!
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#1832149 - 03/10/10 05:39 PM
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BSK, Can I use your quote with one slight modification? "Stirring the pot around here just gets easier and easier.  Criticize their "Mecca" and the 3 buck guys go berserk!  " Yodel, We don’t go berserk but we are amazed that anyone would want to mess with perfection!!! LOL.
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#1832161 - 03/10/10 05:45 PM
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BSK, Can I use your quote with one slight modification? "Stirring the pot around here just gets easier and easier.  Criticize their "Mecca" and the 3 buck guys go berserk!  " Yodel, We don’t go berserk but we are amazed that anyone would want to mess with perfection!!! LOL.
Really?
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#1832181 - 03/10/10 05:53 PM
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BSK, Can I use your quote with one slight modification? "Stirring the pot around here just gets easier and easier.  Criticize their "Mecca" and the 3 buck guys go berserk!  " Yodel, We don’t go berserk but we are amazed that anyone would want to mess with perfection!!! LOL. Really? Yep. Three buck tags, a chance to kill mature deer in any county, plenty of doe opportunities, a healthy deer herd, affordable leases, long seasons and a reasonable priced license. The only thing that might make it better would be more buck tags. What’s not to like?
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#1832214 - 03/10/10 06:08 PM
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BSK, Can I use your quote with one slight modification? "Stirring the pot around here just gets easier and easier.  Criticize their "Mecca" and the 3 buck guys go berserk!  " Yodel, We don’t go berserk but we are amazed that anyone would want to mess with perfection!!! LOL.
HAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA!!! I better leave that comment alone so I don't get put out of here for good!
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#1832251 - 03/10/10 06:24 PM
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Who cares about long gun seasons!!! Kentucky is a bow state. Don't ya'll know that. Stay out of Ky!!!! j/k 
Anyways, KDFWR changes county zones just about every year. Now, I'm going to highjack. I saw some of you have hunted Todd County. What parts? That's where I'm from.
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#1832315 - 03/10/10 07:05 PM
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Where I hunt in TN it would be unusual to hear more than half a dozen gun-shots opening weekend, and it gets really quiet after that. The only "pressure patterns" the local deer move to is due to our hunting activity instead of what is happening on surrounding properties. Plus we always have a couple fairly top-end bucks (for the area--pushing 160) to pursue without fear our neighbors are going to kill them (at least they haven't gotten one of our top-end bucks yet over the 11 years we've been running trail-cams and knew what was out there). My place is nothing like what you have. I will hear a dozen shots the first 30 minutes of shooting light opening morning and sometimes it starts before light. It I didn't hear a half dozen shots on any day of the season, I would be thinking I was confused and hunting after the season closed. It has always been like that in my area. Most of the deer I get on trail cam get killed by neighbors regardless of age. You are fortunate to have a place like you do or I'm just in a bad spot. I have never hunted Ky so I can't compare what I have to them.
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#1832790 - 03/10/10 11:10 PM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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In the early 1970's, opening day in Hickman County sounded like a high powered rifle dove shoot. Today, hunting areas are not as concentrated as they were back then. This is because every county in Tennessee (I think) has huntable numbers of deer nowdays.
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#1832852 - 03/11/10 03:06 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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In the early 1970's, opening day in Hickman County sounded like a high powered rifle dove shoot. Today, hunting areas are not as concentrated as they were back then. This is because every county in Tennessee (I think) has huntable numbers of deer nowdays.
Thanks TWRA! In the early 1970's, opening day in Hickman County sounded like a high powered rifle dove shoot. Right on . Thanks TWRA every county in Tennessee (I think) has huntable numbers of deer !
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#1833005 - 03/11/10 07:25 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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I am serious. I have plenty of land to hunt in KY, but why would I go there when the hunting is better where I hunt in TN? Now without question a rare monster is produced in the areas I have access to in KY--much larger that what appears to be producable in my TN hunting area. But again, they are rare. I have much more consistant access to very good bucks in TN than KY.
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#1833018 - 03/11/10 07:33 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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BSK, Can I use your quote with one slight modification? "Stirring the pot around here just gets easier and easier.  Criticize their "Mecca" and the 3 buck guys go berserk!  "
Have at it Yodel. I have no problem with hunters criticizing the 3 buck limit. As I've always said, I prefer a 2 buck limit. But I'm not going to post completely erroneous and illogical arguments for a 2 buck limit because currently, there is no evidence that supports a move to a 2 buck limit. And to be honest, I'm as shocked by the results of the 3 buck limit as anybody. I honestly believed the 3 buck limit would be counter-productive. But I have to go with the best evidence available. Now show me good evidence to the contrary and I'll support it.
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#1833021 - 03/11/10 07:35 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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In the early 1970's, opening day in Hickman County sounded like a high powered rifle dove shoot. Today, hunting areas are not as concentrated as they were back then. This is because every county in Tennessee (I think) has huntable numbers of deer nowdays.
Thanks TWRA!
There is probably a lot to what you said RKenney. My area used to sound closer to a war zone in the '80s and early '90s. But with the loss of "public" timber land to hunt and a much better deer herd in East TN, we don't have anywhere near the hunter density we used to have.
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#1833122 - 03/11/10 08:47 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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BSK, Can I use your quote with one slight modification? "Stirring the pot around here just gets easier and easier.  Criticize their "Mecca" and the 3 buck guys go berserk!  " Have at it Yodel. I have no problem with hunters criticizing the 3 buck limit. As I've always said, I prefer a 2 buck limit. But I'm not going to post completely erroneous and illogical arguments for a 2 buck limit because currently, there is no evidence that supports a move to a 2 buck limit. And to be honest, I'm as shocked by the results of the 3 buck limit as anybody. I honestly believed the 3 buck limit would be counter-productive. But I have to go with the best evidence available. Now show me good evidence to the contrary and I'll support it.
I have none. All the statements I've made on the subject are based solely on observations and opinions.
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#1833167 - 03/11/10 09:15 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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thats one of the reasons i moved to tennessee instead of ky and ohio. although i found a heck of a deal on 127 acres south of columbia,ky. Yup, I too moved to TN from KY to have access to better hunting. And I've never been sorry either! if you hunted the farms i've had a chance to hunt you would not be so quick to say that but dont get me wrong i like hunting TN also and i might not be so quick to say that if i had to hunt where some have to in this state I have seen some lease openings posted on here that would put you where the deer are in TN. i dont need them cause i got big bucks on my place was just saying some guys dont and that my place in KY is better than my place in TN but i realize that is not the case for some on here
i have good bucks on both but my biggest and more mature bucks come from KY and not saying KY is better for everyone but it is without a doubt better for me and it is free for me other than buying a tag and gas
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#1833177 - 03/11/10 09:20 AM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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BSK, Can I use your quote with one slight modification? "Stirring the pot around here just gets easier and easier.  Criticize their "Mecca" and the 3 buck guys go berserk!  " Yodel, We don’t go berserk but we are amazed that anyone would want to mess with perfection!!! LOL. Really? Yep. Three buck tags, a chance to kill mature deer in any county, plenty of doe opportunities, a healthy deer herd, affordable leases, long seasons and a reasonable priced license. The only thing that might make it better would be more buck tags. What’s not to like? affordable for you maybe most around my area are out of my league 8 to 10 $ an acre is to much for me just checked on one the other day 4500$ for 450 acres i would not hunt that ground with more than 5 people and that would 900$ a piece way too much for me
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#1833699 - 03/11/10 02:12 PM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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BSK, Can I use your quote with one slight modification? "Stirring the pot around here just gets easier and easier.  Criticize their "Mecca" and the 3 buck guys go berserk!  " Yodel, We don’t go berserk but we are amazed that anyone would want to mess with perfection!!! LOL. Really? Yep. Three buck tags, a chance to kill mature deer in any county, plenty of doe opportunities, a healthy deer herd, affordable leases, long seasons and a reasonable priced license. The only thing that might make it better would be more buck tags. What’s not to like? affordable for you maybe most around my area are out of my league 8 to 10 $ an acre is to much for me just checked on one the other day 4500$ for 450 acres i would not hunt that ground with more than 5 people and that would 900$ a piece way too much for me We are currently paying less than that.
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#1833706 - 03/11/10 02:16 PM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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BSK, Can I use your quote with one slight modification? "Stirring the pot around here just gets easier and easier.  Criticize their "Mecca" and the 3 buck guys go berserk!  " Yodel, We don’t go berserk but we are amazed that anyone would want to mess with perfection!!! LOL. Really? Yep. Three buck tags, a chance to kill mature deer in any county, plenty of doe opportunities, a healthy deer herd, affordable leases, long seasons and a reasonable priced license. The only thing that might make it better would be more buck tags. What’s not to like? affordable for you maybe most around my area are out of my league 8 to 10 $ an acre is to much for me just checked on one the other day 4500$ for 450 acres i would not hunt that ground with more than 5 people and that would 900$ a piece way too much for me We are currently paying less than that. yes you are but around here that is the going rate and thank goodness i have my familys land and lots of good public land to fall back on, i'll never be able to afford it otherwise
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#1833715 - 03/11/10 02:22 PM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Change
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Who cares about long gun seasons!!! Kentucky is a bow state. Don't ya'll know that. Stay out of Ky!!!! j/k  Anyways, KDFWR changes county zones just about every year. Now, I'm going to highjack. I saw some of you have hunted Todd County. What parts? That's where I'm from.
I hunt the NW part of Todd County around " pilot rock ". Are you familiar with that area ? Me and a buddy hunt a 580 acre farm there and 1 or both of us usually kill a nice buck every year, 130 plus.
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#1834065 - 03/11/10 05:58 PM
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Who cares about long gun seasons!!! Kentucky is a bow state. Don't ya'll know that. Stay out of Ky!!!! j/k  Anyways, KDFWR changes county zones just about every year. Now, I'm going to highjack. I saw some of you have hunted Todd County. What parts? That's where I'm from. I hunt the NW part of Todd County around " pilot rock ". Are you familiar with that area ? Me and a buddy hunt a 580 acre farm there and 1 or both of us usually kill a nice buck every year, 130 plus.
I know it. Big deer in that area. I hunt some at my uncle's in Allegre not far away from pilot rock.
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#1834617 - 03/11/10 08:29 PM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Changes
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In the early 1970's, opening day in Hickman County sounded like a high powered rifle dove shoot. Today, hunting areas are not as concentrated as they were back then. This is because every county in Tennessee (I think) has huntable numbers of deer nowdays.
Thanks TWRA! There is probably a lot to what you said RKenney. My area used to sound closer to a war zone in the '80s and early '90s. But with the loss of "public" timber land to hunt and a much better deer herd in East TN, we don't have anywhere near the hunter density we used to have. We also have fewer hunters now than we had back in the 1970s-1980s-1990s as with the lose of timber land to huntt lots of hunters were priced out of hunting in Hickman county. The numbers of hunters has declined a lot because of the baby boomers getting old and not being able to hunt anymore. -------------------------------------------------------- Hunting 2007: Decline in hunter numbers worries wildlife agencies By Anne Holcomb September 22, 2007, 9:32AM By David Crary | Associated Press
Hunters remain a powerful force in American society, as evidenced by the presidential candidates who routinely pay them homage, but their ranks are shrinking dramatically and wildlife agencies worry increasingly about the loss of sorely needed license-fee revenue. New figures from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service show that the number of hunters 16 and older declined by 10 percent between 1996 and 2006 -- from 14 million to about 12.5 million. The drop was most acute in New England, the Rocky Mountains, and the Pacific states, which lost 400,000 hunters in that span.
The primary reasons, experts say, are the loss of hunting land to urbanization plus a perception by many families that they can't afford the time or costs that hunting entails. http://blog.mlive.com/kalamazoo_gazette_extra/2007/09/hunting_2007_decline_in_hunter.html
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#1835033 - 03/11/10 11:07 PM
Re: Kentucky Commission Proposes Deer & Elk Change
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Who cares about long gun seasons!!! Kentucky is a bow state. Don't ya'll know that. Stay out of Ky!!!! j/k  Anyways, KDFWR changes county zones just about every year. Now, I'm going to highjack. I saw some of you have hunted Todd County. What parts? That's where I'm from. I hunt the NW part of Todd County around " pilot rock ". Are you familiar with that area ? Me and a buddy hunt a 580 acre farm there and 1 or both of us usually kill a nice buck every year, 130 plus. I know it. Big deer in that area. I hunt some at my uncle's in Allegre not far away from pilot rock.
I'm familiar with Allegre, we use to go to the country store there to grab a burger at lunch and to see any bucks registered in the big buck contest. The last time we went down there it was closed down. I'm talkin about the one on the corner of Hwy 507. These areas are great areas for big bucks. We have killed some nice bucks and seen them even bigger and seen some monsters at the taxidermy shop heading back to Hoptown.
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#1837002 - 03/13/10 09:30 AM
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IMHO, Ky DNR needs to spend some more money on LE in those counties that need to grow deer populations. Illegal hunting in the area of Ohio County where my farm is located is a worse culprit than EHD in keeping numbers low.
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#1837428 - 03/13/10 03:10 PM
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IMHO, Ky DNR needs to spend some more money on LE in those counties that need to grow deer populations. Illegal hunting in the area of Ohio County where my farm is located is a worse culprit than EHD in keeping numbers low.
Illegal hunting is a problem in my area also. There is a public gravel road that runs by my farm and every day bout 30 - 45 mins before dark you hear the gravel start turning and some of the local poachers/trespassers are making their rounds. This gravel road overlooks some of our fields and during bow season just about the time the deer start coming out in the evenings these "regulars" start making their rounds and usually end up spooking the deer out of the fields by stopping and looking at the deer. I've not seen anybody shoot during bow season although I'm sure they have its just that by stopping and checking the fields they spook the deer, but its a public road. One morning while bow hunting the woods not far from one of our bigger fields a vehicle came down the road before daylight and used a Q-Beam to light up the field. Its kinda hard to hunt that feeding to bedding pattern with a vehicle in between you and the deer. This past season my buddy was hunting one of our stands when he could hear a vehicle coming down the gravel road. The vehicle stopped very close to where my buddies vehicle was parked, shots were fired, doors opened and shut , talking back and forth. I don't know if they killed anything or not but they shot in broad daylight within sight of my buddies vehicle knowing someone was hunting close by. Illegal hunting/poaching is a problem every where in every state but its hard to stop because GW's can't be everywhere in an entire county at the same time .
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#1837552 - 03/13/10 04:13 PM
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I haven't hunted KY in a while, but where I use to hunt up there was pretty good. I've seen a couple true monsters and have managed to harvest a couple of dandys. I've never hunted west tn or an good farm around middle Tn, but I can say that my chances of harvesting a wall hanger in the part of KY where I hunted were better than the parts of TN I hunt. I personally prefer to hunt in the TN mountains just because it's my style and the big bucks are there, good or bad soil. I do have access to hunt a farm in Moore county that is loaded with deer, but I've never seen what I would consider a wall hanger while hunting.
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