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#1830716 - 03/09/10 09:28 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: megalomaniac]
TeamMainStreet
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
 Originally Posted By: TeamMainStreet
...it aint the lack of land. Its the lack of generosity that this country has. The land is still here but the good ole days where people would let you use what ever they had have come and gone.


You're right and wrong... what has changed is the old assumption that coon hunters can go wherever they want. Now landowners actually expect you to ask permission to hunt before you set foot on thier property.

I've had several groups coon hunt my land with my permission in the past. Never had a problem with any of them. I've had a ton of problems with those who don't ask permission (cut cattle fences to get dogs through, leave gates open at night allowing cows to get out, leave empty beer cans on the property, etc).

You should be focusing on those coon hunters who are the bad eggs... they are giving all of you a bad name.


I can garauntee you that if I ask permission and you let me, I have enough respect not to trash your place up, leave gates open and cut fences. I grew up farmin and still do and I know what its like to chase cows in the middle of the night. I used to hunt with some boys that thought like you have described. Needless to say I dont hunt with them anymore. These bad eggs you talk about are no different than the bad eggs in the deer hunting world so try not to single out us COON HUNTERS. People tresspass to deer hunt the same way. I agree some people these days are not as trustworthy as they once were. But a lot of us are and we cant catch a break.
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#1830720 - 03/09/10 09:30 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: megalomaniac]
gator-n-buck
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
 Originally Posted By: TeamMainStreet
...it aint the lack of land. Its the lack of generosity that this country has. The land is still here but the good ole days where people would let you use what ever they had have come and gone.


You're right and wrong... what has changed is the old assumption that coon hunters can go wherever they want. Now landowners actually expect you to ask permission to hunt before you set foot on thier property.

I've had several groups coon hunt my land with my permission in the past. Never had a problem with any of them. I've had a ton of problems with those who don't ask permission (cut cattle fences to get dogs through, leave gates open at night allowing cows to get out, leave empty beer cans on the property, etc).

You should be focusing on those coon hunters who are the bad eggs... they are giving all of you a bad name.


I have never knew any coon hunters that didn't throw their dogs over a fence or drink beer while they were hunting... Most coon hunter only love to hear their dogs work and never kill an animal... They go straight to the tree and pull the dogs off and relocate, start all over again... There are to many things in the woods that scare deer on a daily basis, to worry about coon hunters...

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#1830722 - 03/09/10 09:32 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: Traxx]
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 Originally Posted By: Traxx
Shooting a hunting dog will land you in some serious trouble. Removing the tracking collar will get you in more trouble.

A friend of mine was hunting in a competition hunt in Indiana and a landowner shot his dog off of the tree.

It cost the landowner over $15,000 and he now has a felony on his record because he took the tracking collar and threw it over a bridge.

Someone shooting a guys coonhound that got lost or out of pocket is no different than stealing a tree stand or trail camera.


I dont know if this would be the case in TN as hound hunters here dont get any respect or catch any breaks. I would hope that I could get something in return if somebody senslisly killed a dog of mine. In other states where hound hunting is more accepted, like Indiana, yes, the fines are very stiff. I wish we could get more laws regarding hunting with hounds here in TN. And yes, someone that would shoot a mans hound doing what he is supposed to be doing is lower than a treestand theif in my opinion.
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#1830745 - 03/09/10 09:42 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: TeamMainStreet]
gator-n-buck
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 Originally Posted By: TeamMainStreet
 Originally Posted By: Traxx
Shooting a hunting dog will land you in some serious trouble. Removing the tracking collar will get you in more trouble.

A friend of mine was hunting in a competition hunt in Indiana and a landowner shot his dog off of the tree.

It cost the landowner over $15,000 and he now has a felony on his record because he took the tracking collar and threw it over a bridge.

Someone shooting a guys coonhound that got lost or out of pocket is no different than stealing a tree stand or trail camera.


I dont know if this would be the case in TN as hound hunters here dont get any respect or catch any breaks. I would hope that I could get something in return if somebody senslisly killed a dog of mine. In other states where hound hunting is more accepted, like Indiana, yes, the fines are very stiff. I wish we could get more laws regarding hunting with hounds here in TN. And yes, someone that would shoot a mans hound doing what he is supposed to be doing is lower than a treestand theif in my opinion.


I never understood deer hunters worried about dogs... Yes, can a dog mess up a hunt, sure.... Can a dog bump a deer your way, sure... Its the luck of the draw... I'm sure there have been many booners killed with the assist of dogs... There are still some hunters that don't have a clue that a dog scared that deer their way.... I wonder what yotes do to deer and they don't even have owners and run wild.... Something else to worry about....

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#1830748 - 03/09/10 09:45 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: gator-n-buck]
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Yup
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#1830751 - 03/09/10 09:46 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: TeamMainStreet
 Originally Posted By: Traxx
Shooting a hunting dog will land you in some serious trouble. Removing the tracking collar will get you in more trouble.

A friend of mine was hunting in a competition hunt in Indiana and a landowner shot his dog off of the tree.

It cost the landowner over $15,000 and he now has a felony on his record because he took the tracking collar and threw it over a bridge.

Someone shooting a guys coonhound that got lost or out of pocket is no different than stealing a tree stand or trail camera.


I dont know if this would be the case in TN as hound hunters here dont get any respect or catch any breaks. I would hope that I could get something in return if somebody senslisly killed a dog of mine. In other states where hound hunting is more accepted, like Indiana, yes, the fines are very stiff. I wish we could get more laws regarding hunting with hounds here in TN. And yes, someone that would shoot a mans hound doing what he is supposed to be doing is lower than a treestand theif in my opinion.


I never understood deer hunters worried about dogs... Yes, can a dog mess up a hunt, sure.... Can a dog bump a deer your way, sure... Its the luck of the draw... I'm sure there have been many booners killed with the assist of dogs... There are still some hunters that don't have a clue that a dog scared that deer their way.... I wonder what yotes do to deer and they don't even have owners and run wild.... Something else to worry about....


Oh, I forgot about yotes, they are like poachers... Theres nothing we can do about them... I guess its easier to blame others for our failures....


Edited by gator-n-buck (03/09/10 09:52 PM)

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#1830758 - 03/09/10 09:50 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: gator-n-buck]
TeamMainStreet
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Well somebodys got to get the blame, even if its coyotes.

Edited by TeamMainStreet (03/09/10 09:50 PM)
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#1830776 - 03/09/10 10:04 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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I've cut my teeth on coon hunting,with my dad ,brother,and grandad. I started in the early 80's, and I have loved it every sense. Even after losing my brother 5 years ago in a PKC hunt out of Birchwood Coon Club at the age of 34 years old. Cause of death was a massive heart attack. Enough about me. If you have permission to hunt 300 acre's and your dogs chase game onto private property and the land owner shoots my dog. He has just bought one expensive hound. Cause you can sew for pkc earnings as well as stud fews or pups. Hounds can't read posted sighn's so don't shoot them just to bragg to your buddies about killing them. Just remember if somebodies junk running trash jumping hound runs your biggest deer of your life by and you kill it. Hum! bet you never thought that if that dog hadn't ran that deer that you might not have ever known that it ever exsisted.
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#1830800 - 03/09/10 10:18 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: gator-n-buck]
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what kind of COON dog?
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#1830823 - 03/09/10 10:24 PM Re: Study:Coondogs effect on deer movement [Re: rrhoghead]
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Mossyback...Your brought up a good point.
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