#1827482 - 03/07/10 09:43 PM
Re: TN vs. KY DIRT FACTS
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budro2
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your statement is very disappointing, if I said the same thing about you, I would be booted from the forum. Yesiree, you're 100% correct. Take it from someone that knows firsthand. If it is the post I remember you attacked the integrity of the TWRA not their knowledge. I have a question for you and budro2. Just how much do you know about constructing a statistical model and how to interpret the data derived from it? you are always wanting to ask questions, why dont you provide some answers, and show your "lack of ignorance" . What do you know about these soils on my property and why has this farm produced several 160 plus bucks in the last 7 years? Soil Code Soil Series Name Soil Info – Percent slope Erosion potential Area % BnF2 Berks-Brownsville very rocky, 30 to 55% slope eroded 63 BvF2 Brownsville-Berks 30 to 60% slope eroded 30 Sx Skidmore gravelly silt loam 0 to 5% slope occasional flooding 4 SkF2 Shelocta silt loam 20 to 45% slope eroded I don't know much about the soil in your area but I would think that there is good forge for the deer and the hunting pressure is not really heavy. The ability of the hunter or hunters that harvested these animals would also play abig part along with any local standards (Antler Restrictions). I only ask questions to find answers. Not to prove or disprove anyones ignorance. Sometimes the answers I find are not nessecarily the answers I expect.
Soil is Poor,
Age/Gene's is what produced the antlers.
Browse is standard, lot of greenbriar, pred acorns are chestnut oaks.
Hunter ability, No, just right place at right time.
No agriculture, closest is 3 miles, mostly pasture, no legumes or soybeans. some small corn fields, but we all know that corn does not play a big part in antler developement, except maybe to carry a mature run down buck over late winter with the high carbs it offers.
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#1827484 - 03/07/10 09:49 PM
Re: TN vs. KY DIRT FACTS
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landman
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They didn't have a "soil Scientists" degree when I went College, it was covered in the General AG Degree. And it looks like someone in Wildlife Management didn't have to take "Soils 101" either
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#1827570 - 03/07/10 10:52 PM
Re: TN vs. KY DIRT FACTS
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budro2
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I'm very confused by some of the numbers being presented here. I've downloaded all of the USDA data and calculated it for myself and the argument actually goes against there being little difference between KY and TN.
KY is a smaller state than TN to the tune of over a million acres, yet KY regularly reports more than a million more acres of agricultural production. Looking from year to year, KY regularly reports 25% higher agricultural acres as a percent of total acres of land than TN. In 2008, KY had more than TWICE the acreage of corn (105.8%) and 10% more acreage of soybeans than TN. Crop yields--a direct measure of soil fertility--consistantly runs 17-20% higher per acre in KY than TN for both corn and soybeans.
The fact KY has more agriculture, produces more of the most important crops for deer nutrition, and has higher quality soils (higher crop yields per acre) is obvious. I don't understand the argument?
Oh... yes I do... The trophyists are twisting the facts again....
Typical...
TENNESSEE CORN YIELDS 2009 Corn for grain production is estimated at 87.3 million bushels, up 17 percent from 2008. The final yield, at 148 bushels per acre, 148 BU AV, 87.3 MILLION BUSHELS KY CORN YIELD FOR 09 Corn For Grain Total For Crop 2009 Kentucky State Total 99 1,220,000 acres 1,150,000 acres 165 bushel 189,750,000 bushel 165 BU AVERAGE 189 MILL BUSHELS TN SOYBEAN YIELD 2009 Soybean production is estimated at 68.9 million bushels, up 39 percent from the year earlier and the highest since 1979. The State’s final soybean yield is estimated at 45 bushels per acre.. Producers planted 1,570,000 acres and harvested 1,530,000 acres for beans. 45 BU AC/ 68.9 MILLION BUSHELS KY YEILD FOR BEANS Soybeans Total For Crop 2009 Kentucky State Total 99 1,430,000 acres 1,420,000 acres 48 bushel 68,160,000 bushel 48 BU AC, 68.16 MILLION BUSHELS APPEARS YOU CALCULATOR WAS MIXED UP, A 3 BU INCREASE IN SOYBEANS IS NOT A 17-20% INCREASE IN YIELDS AS YOU SUGGESTED. Talk about twisting facts! You're looking at state estimates. Go back to the last actual measured year by county statistics. KY County average corn yield per acre: 89.4 bu/acre TN County average corn yield per acre: 75.6 bu/acre That's an 18.25% difference. KY County average soybean yield per acre: 25.4 bu/acre TN County average soybean yield per acre: 21.7 bu/acre That's a 17.14% difference.
BSK-
how does it feel when you know you are wrong,  i used current facts. Maybe your computer is old or something.
OH, remember your quote regarding "ignorance" on one one of your posts 
NASHVILLE, January 12, 2010 – Despite unusually cool, wet weather all year, the Volunteer State experienced record
yields for two major row crops, according to a recent survey conducted by USDA’s National Agricultural Statistics
Service, Tennessee Field Office. The 2009 corn crop shattered the state’s previous yield record, set in 2004, of 140
bushels per acre by 8 bushels. Corn was not the only crop that produced record yields however, as soybeans also broke
the previous record, set in 2003, of 42 bushels per acre by 3 bushels
By the way, 140 plus 8, equals 148 bu of corn for 2009
42 plus 3 equals 45 bu of soybeans for 2009
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#1827581 - 03/07/10 11:10 PM
Re: TN vs. KY DIRT FACTS
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budro2
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Actual 5 yr average
TN 35 bu beans
125.4 bu corn
KY 39 bu beans
141 bu corn
IF, you toss the 2007 drought year out, then they get closer together, W TN was severly hit in 07. KY was not hit as hard. The production spread was considerable difference in 2007.
Hows that for FACTS, not twisted up in Non Typical Fashion!!!!
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#1827707 - 03/08/10 06:51 AM
Re: TN vs. KY DIRT FACTS
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Wow,and only 40 posts in!
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#1827879 - 03/08/10 10:00 AM
Re: TN vs. KY DIRT FACTS
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They didn't have a "soil Scientists" degree when I went College, it was covered in the General AG Degree. And it looks like someone in Wildlife Management didn't have to take "Soils 101" either
Landman, try not be so defensive. My comment about the "experts" wasn't aimed at you. I was merely pointing out the fact that ALL of us (myself included) are just providing opinions, since we are not experts in soils and animal nutrition.
But to be honest, I have taken soils courses since it is part of my job. One responsibility I have is to ensure that landowners working with USDA adhere to Farm Bill program compliance, which means I have to work with our area soil scientist on wetland and sodbuster determinations (which involves identifying soil types and existing plant communities).
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