#1831574 - 03/10/10 11:33 AM
Re: Ima Tell Y'll Sumpin
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BigWes50
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I like using both of them for information the old guy and the biologist. You can't never stop or keep learning enough about deer!
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#1831575 - 03/10/10 11:35 AM
Re: Ima Tell Y'll Sumpin
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I remember a night in Chattanooga... never mind.
I would like to say I remember an evening in St Louis, spent with a certain prominant wildlife professor from UT, the director of a certain deer management organization (that has "QDM" in the name), and the Deer Coordinator and soon to be head of Wildlife for a certain state just to our north. But after the 5th or 6th pitcher of beer and the 2nd pitcher of Long Island ice teas, I don't really remember anything.  Other than how bad I felt the next day and how I couldn't get to the meetings until noon!
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#1831580 - 03/10/10 11:38 AM
Re: Ima Tell Y'll Sumpin
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I'd rather listen to an old-timer with a ton of hunting experience than a biologist with a ton of facts, charts and data.....
first hand experience gets my vote every time.....plus those big words confuse me sometimes........haha.
I've found that the "old timers" will have collected the very best observations of deer behavior over the years, but often jump to the wrong conclusion about why deer were doing what they saw them doing. The biologist is the better judge of "why" but sometimes doesn't have the years of experience in the field.
So each have their advantages.
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#1831592 - 03/10/10 11:48 AM
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I can't quite remember exactly where St. Louis is.
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#1831617 - 03/10/10 12:00 PM
Re: Ima Tell Y'll Sumpin
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I can't quite remember exactly where St. Louis is.
Me neither! But there was this big arch...
...and I think I peed on it...
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#1831654 - 03/10/10 12:26 PM
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Don't confuse deer hunting with deer management. Hunting is simple, it is also just one componenent of deer management. But I believe to truly understand hunting, you have to have, at least a basic understaning of management. It as far more than just killing.
yup, I break out the sage and burn it while chanting and rattlin 
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#1831655 - 03/10/10 12:27 PM
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Bottom Hunter
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I'd rather listen to an old-timer with a ton of hunting experience than a biologist with a ton of facts, charts and data.....
first hand experience gets my vote every time.....plus those big words confuse me sometimes........haha.
I've found that the "old timers" will have collected the very best observations of deer behavior over the years, but often jump to the wrong conclusion about why deer were doing what they saw them doing. The biologist is the better judge of "why" but sometimes doesn't have the years of experience in the field. So each have their advantages.
I agree.
But, I must respectively say that until deer learn to communicate with man, some of the biologist's data is more speculation and theory than anything else....IMO, of course.
Most data is based on observation and studies done over time. IMO, hunters experience is basically the same thing as scientific data, just without the fancy words and printouts...
I do admire both the biologist and the hunter that have reached what I call "admirable status' in their field......
BH
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