#1826147 - 03/07/10 12:40 AM
Re: Back When The Limit was 11...
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gator-n-buck
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Someone posted the top 10 states that ranked in entries.. I was a little bored and did a little resource on there buck limits. I know we can debate that they have shorter rifle seasons, No rifles at all, Permits, differnet zones, and other things that come into play. I also know some of these places will let you run dogs and also bait. This is what I could find on the buck limits and if I got one wrong go a head and correct it. I have been wrong before... Just found this a little interesting and you get a little of everything depending on the state.
the btr scoring systems has an article July 2009, " top boneyards in america" that give the ranking for the most entries in the last few years. I wish I could provide a link to the article. Remember, The BTR gives full credit, so a lot more quality bucks are entered.
It showed the rankings as followed. :
1- Ill - Permits (not sure / maybe 2 buck limit)
2- oh - One buck limit
3 - louisana - 3 buck limit
4- indiana - One buck limit.
5- kansas - One buck limit
6 miss - 3 buck limit and antler restrictions.
7- ky - One buck limit
8- n carolina - 4 buck limit / 2 buck limit (state is divided)
9- ark - 2 buck limit
10- texas - 2 buck limit
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#1826152 - 03/07/10 01:10 AM
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I dont know of any hunters that submitted their deer to BTR. Its just not widely used anywhere, and isnt a good gauge. I have also been told its slightly more popular in the south, which would explain why some southern states are in there. I wouldnt trust any top 10 list that had Louisiana, N.carolina, Miss and Arkansas in it, but not Iowa. Just doesnt make sense.
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#1826233 - 03/07/10 07:59 AM
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I dont know of any hunters that submitted their deer to BTR. Its just not widely used anywhere, and isnt a good gauge. I have also been told its slightly more popular in the south, which would explain why some southern states are in there. I wouldnt trust any top 10 list that had Louisiana, N.carolina, Miss and Arkansas in it, but not Iowa. Just doesnt make sense.
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#1826240 - 03/07/10 08:02 AM
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I agree Deer Bio. The BTR is used by a lot that can't make the B&C or P&Y. That top 10 list means bnothing to me.
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#1826763 - 03/07/10 12:35 PM
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landman
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did you kill any of them at your old Cheatham WMA hot spot, seems I remember you writing about one you had for years up there right by a gravel road, shoot deer and watch cars at the same time.
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#1826890 - 03/07/10 01:50 PM
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I dont know of any hunters that submitted their deer to BTR. Its just not widely used anywhere, and isnt a good gauge. I have also been told its slightly more popular in the south, which would explain why some southern states are in there. I wouldnt trust any top 10 list that had Louisiana, N.carolina, Miss and Arkansas in it, but not Iowa. Just doesnt make sense. I just took these from a post on another thread. If someone could post another one that might be accepted, who knows, I might get bored again... 
I actually think your idea is a very good idea, and one I have mentioned a few times. I would just do it with the BC list, not BTR. I hear alot of people on here refer to the overlay between BC and the soil map. They infer from that, that soil is the primary reason. My contention is that overlay also happens to represent states that protect their buck herd. Some do it by low buck limits, some do it with 2 buck limits, but not much gun season during the rut, etc, etc.
States like Ky, that arent the top in soil quality, are on the BC list, but states like Oh and Indiana, who are two of the top states in soil quality arent even in the top 10. That tells me that the overlay is more to do with protecting their buck herd than the soil.
I havent been here long, but I have gotten the impression that soil continues to be the main reason why people think Tn cant grow big bucks. And their proof of that is the BC overlay. I think thats flawed.
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#1826896 - 03/07/10 01:55 PM
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I havent been here long, but I have gotten the impression that soil continues to be the main reason why people think Tn cant grow big bucks. And their proof of that is the BC overlay. I think thats flawed.
Flawed? How can that be? Our "experts" say we can't grow em because of our dirt! 
Edited by Yodel Dog (03/07/10 01:56 PM)
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#1826933 - 03/07/10 02:25 PM
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I dont know of any hunters that submitted their deer to BTR. Its just not widely used anywhere, and isnt a good gauge. I have also been told its slightly more popular in the south, which would explain why some southern states are in there. I wouldnt trust any top 10 list that had Louisiana, N.carolina, Miss and Arkansas in it, but not Iowa. Just doesnt make sense. I just took these from a post on another thread. If someone could post another one that might be accepted, who knows, I might get bored again... I actually think your idea is a very good idea, and one I have mentioned a few times. I would just do it with the BC list, not BTR. I hear alot of people on here refer to the overlay between BC and the soil map. They infer from that, that soil is the primary reason. My contention is that overlay also happens to represent states that protect their buck herd. Some do it by low buck limits, some do it with 2 buck limits, but not much gun season during the rut, etc, etc. States like Ky, that arent the top in soil quality, are on the BC list, but states like Oh and Indiana, who are two of the top states in soil quality arent even in the top 10. That tells me that the overlay is more to do with protecting their buck herd than the soil. I havent been here long, but I have gotten the impression that soil continues to be the main reason why people think Tn cant grow big bucks. And their proof of that is the BC overlay. I think thats flawed.
I got bored when everybody went to bed and used a list that was already posted under "Where does TN rank". I know some of these places in the North are MZ or shotgun only durning rifle. I also know that some of the rifle season are a little bit shorter. It was just a thought in the early morning hours. Might use BC list next....
Edited by gator-n-buck (03/07/10 02:27 PM)
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#1826938 - 03/07/10 02:37 PM
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gator-n-buck
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I havent been here long, but I have gotten the impression that soil continues to be the main reason why people think Tn cant grow big bucks. And their proof of that is the BC overlay. I think thats flawed. Flawed? How can that be? Our "experts" say we can't grow em because of our dirt!
I don't think our experts just say its the soil. I think they always mention the soil along with genetics and age. I Think it takes all three of those elements to come together and TN might lack a little in a few of those elements. I think why this is such a big debate is because there are so many factors that come into play and we are trying to find an easy fix..... JMO and I'm no expert.
Edited by gator-n-buck (03/07/10 02:38 PM)
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