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#1810603 - 02/26/10 10:58 AM Doe management
whitetailfreak
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What part of the season is best in your guys opinoin to do a little doe management?
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#1810605 - 02/26/10 11:00 AM Re: Doe management [Re: whitetailfreak]
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bow season and super late season
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#1810607 - 02/26/10 11:01 AM Re: Doe management [Re: whitetailfreak]
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as early as possible without a doubt.
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#1810631 - 02/26/10 11:26 AM Re: Doe management [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
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Biologically, early is best. But I also understand those who worry about "ruining" a good area through excessive human intrusion during doe retreival before the rut. The best compromise is to harvest does early but not in areas you expect to be buck hunting during the rut.
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#1810654 - 02/26/10 11:33 AM Re: Doe management [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Biologically, early is best. But I also understand those who worry about "ruining" a good area through excessive human intrusion during doe retreival before the rut. The best compromise is to harvest does early but not in areas you expect to be buck hunting during the rut.
good post

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#1810657 - 02/26/10 11:34 AM Re: Doe management [Re: mathews338]
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anytime you have one in your sights
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#1810663 - 02/26/10 11:36 AM Re: Doe management [Re: BSK]
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I agree, BSK.
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#1810749 - 02/26/10 12:48 PM Re: Doe management [Re: whitetailfreak]
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Bow season for sure, much lower impact hunting and by far more fun to shoot them with a bow!
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#1810755 - 02/26/10 12:53 PM Re: Doe management [Re: Winchester]
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What BSK and Winchester said

Edited by W.Seay (02/26/10 12:53 PM)
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#1810789 - 02/26/10 01:20 PM Re: Doe management [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Bow season for sure, much lower impact hunting and by far more fun to shoot them with a bow!


I agree, with me mainly a bow hunter killing them anytime of the year is likely. Especially with cool weather and I can let them lay for a few hours. Killing them early in the season takes the pressure of so I can concentrate on helping Tyler and finding bucks.

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#1810835 - 02/26/10 01:42 PM Re: Doe management [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Biologically, early is best. But I also understand those who worry about "ruining" a good area through excessive human intrusion during doe retreival before the rut. The best compromise is to harvest does early but not in areas you expect to be buck hunting during the rut.


Amen x 2...
If you are going to buck hunt an area for a big buck, do not kill a doe in that area....keep the doe's around for the rut...
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#1810855 - 02/26/10 01:56 PM Re: Doe management [Re: Double-D-Team]
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 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Biologically, early is best. But I also understand those who worry about "ruining" a good area through excessive human intrusion during doe retreival before the rut. The best compromise is to harvest does early but not in areas you expect to be buck hunting during the rut.


Amen x 2...
If you are going to buck hunt an area for a big buck, do not kill a doe in that area....keep the doe's around for the rut...


Actually I want the fewest does around during the rut (another reason to remove them early). I want so much competition between bucks for the few does that bucks are lined up 7 deep to even get a wiff of a doe! ;\)
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#1810859 - 02/26/10 01:57 PM Re: Doe management [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Bow season for sure, much lower impact hunting and by far more fun to shoot them with a bow!


Speak for yourself!

If I tried to manage does with a bow, not another doe would ever die on my place! ;\) \:\(
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#1810868 - 02/26/10 02:01 PM Re: Doe management [Re: BSK]
Double-D-Team
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Biologically, early is best. But I also understand those who worry about "ruining" a good area through excessive human intrusion during doe retreival before the rut. The best compromise is to harvest does early but not in areas you expect to be buck hunting during the rut.


Amen x 2...
If you are going to buck hunt an area for a big buck, do not kill a doe in that area....keep the doe's around for the rut...


Actually I want the fewest does around during the rut (another reason to remove them early). I want so much competition between bucks for the few does that bucks are lined up 7 deep to even get a wiff of a doe! ;\)


I think just the opposite, the more doe's the more checking he will do to see which one has come in...JMO. I saw a lot more bucks this past season leaving the doe's through the rut where I hunted for Daddy Mac Buck...yea I named him...LOL!!
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#1810884 - 02/26/10 02:15 PM Re: Doe management [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Bow season for sure, much lower impact hunting and by far more fun to shoot them with a bow!


Speak for yourself!

If I tried to manage does with a bow, not another doe would ever die on my place! ;\) \:\(

LOL, I hear ya BSK and sometimes I feel the same way, they will sometimes humble ya for sure! I also agree the least does the better, competition makes for a great Rut with bucks having to move a lot during daylight to satisfy their needs!

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#1810919 - 02/26/10 02:34 PM Re: Doe management [Re: Double-D-Team]
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 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Biologically, early is best. But I also understand those who worry about "ruining" a good area through excessive human intrusion during doe retreival before the rut. The best compromise is to harvest does early but not in areas you expect to be buck hunting during the rut.


Amen x 2...
If you are going to buck hunt an area for a big buck, do not kill a doe in that area....keep the doe's around for the rut...


Actually I want the fewest does around during the rut (another reason to remove them early). I want so much competition between bucks for the few does that bucks are lined up 7 deep to even get a wiff of a doe! ;\)


I think just the opposite, the more doe's the more checking he will do to see which one has come in...JMO. I saw a lot more bucks this past season leaving the doe's through the rut where I hunted for Daddy Mac Buck...yea I named him...LOL!!


That's one of those "common logic" errors I'm always trying to educate hunters about. If you want bucks to be active during daylight during the rut--especially the oldest bucks--you want competiiton between bucks to be fierce. With more does than bucks, the oldest bucks won't have to move during the dangerous daylight hours to have access to does. With fewer does, bucks will have to compete and chase during daylight if they want to breed.
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#1810921 - 02/26/10 02:37 PM Re: Doe management [Re: BSK]
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Well, slap me silly. I feel for the doe's in my buck area this coming season... Your never to old to learn..I guess...
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#1810925 - 02/26/10 02:39 PM Re: Doe management [Re: BSK]
jbow
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If any of you need some help getting rid of the does with a bow let me know. I will be glad to help silently.
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#1810980 - 02/26/10 03:15 PM Re: Doe management [Re: richmanbarbeque]
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When one walks in bow range is the best time for me. No seriously I shoot does early and late. Late October-Mid December I'm buck hunting.
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#1810990 - 02/26/10 03:23 PM Re: Doe management [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Biologically, early is best. But I also understand those who worry about "ruining" a good area through excessive human intrusion during doe retreival before the rut. The best compromise is to harvest does early but not in areas you expect to be buck hunting during the rut.


Amen x 2...
If you are going to buck hunt an area for a big buck, do not kill a doe in that area....keep the doe's around for the rut...


Actually I want the fewest does around during the rut (another reason to remove them early). I want so much competition between bucks for the few does that bucks are lined up 7 deep to even get a wiff of a doe! ;\)


I think just the opposite, the more doe's the more checking he will do to see which one has come in...JMO. I saw a lot more bucks this past season leaving the doe's through the rut where I hunted for Daddy Mac Buck...yea I named him...LOL!!


That's one of those "common logic" errors I'm always trying to educate hunters about. If you want bucks to be active during daylight during the rut--especially the oldest bucks--you want competiiton between bucks to be fierce. With more does than bucks, the oldest bucks won't have to move during the dangerous daylight hours to have access to does. With fewer does, bucks will have to compete and chase during daylight if they want to breed.
Good info.
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#1810993 - 02/26/10 03:26 PM Re: Doe management [Re: bobthebowhunter]
tndrbstr
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 Originally Posted By: bobthebowhunter
When one walks in bow range is the best time for me.


Thats kind of the way I look at. If I want kill something the best time to do it is the first opportunity that it gives....
The does haven't needed any thining where I hunt for the last two years...in fact, my managment stratigy has been to just let em be...

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#1810994 - 02/26/10 03:29 PM Re: Doe management [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Biologically, early is best. But I also understand those who worry about "ruining" a good area through excessive human intrusion during doe retreival before the rut. The best compromise is to harvest does early but not in areas you expect to be buck hunting during the rut.


Amen x 2...
If you are going to buck hunt an area for a big buck, do not kill a doe in that area....keep the doe's around for the rut...


Actually I want the fewest does around during the rut (another reason to remove them early). I want so much competition between bucks for the few does that bucks are lined up 7 deep to even get a wiff of a doe! ;\)


I think just the opposite, the more doe's the more checking he will do to see which one has come in...JMO. I saw a lot more bucks this past season leaving the doe's through the rut where I hunted for Daddy Mac Buck...yea I named him...LOL!!


That's one of those "common logic" errors I'm always trying to educate hunters about. If you want bucks to be active during daylight during the rut--especially the oldest bucks--you want competiiton between bucks to be fierce. With more does than bucks, the oldest bucks won't have to move during the dangerous daylight hours to have access to does. With fewer does, bucks will have to compete and chase during daylight if they want to breed.
Good info.



yep,get them on thier feet and make them look for a doe
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#1811222 - 02/26/10 06:21 PM Re: Doe management [Re: bowhunterfanatic]
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 Originally Posted By: bowhunterfanatic
bow season and super late season
YES!
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#1811817 - 02/26/10 09:17 PM Re: Doe management [Re: richmanbarbeque]
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I try to get at them early during bow season, however since much of my mgt is done in other states I take them whenever the mood hits me and I try to get as many as I can out of each group or each sitting if I am in a doe killing mood.
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#1811846 - 02/26/10 09:21 PM Re: Doe management [Re: Football Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: bowhunterfanatic
bow season and super late season
YES!


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#1811885 - 02/26/10 09:27 PM Re: Doe management [Re: Bone Collector]
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whenever they are legal.
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#1812580 - 02/27/10 09:32 AM Re: Doe management [Re: stik]
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I shoot every doe that gives me the opportunity during bow season, as well as everyone else that hunts at our place. I personally dont shoot does during November. But come about mid-December till the end, I will start killing them again. Every once in a while I will shoot one in November.

But I want the least amount of does as possible going into the start of November. Plus, all the button bucks that you "orphaned" will more than likely hang around for the upcoming years \:\)
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#1812588 - 02/27/10 09:38 AM Re: Doe management [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
whenever they are legal.


x2. which is bow season for me and them 5 days of muzzleloader. Cant seem to get drawn for the quota does and unlike the rest of the state don't have any opportunities with a rifle.
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#1812611 - 02/27/10 09:56 AM Re: Doe management [Re: whistlinwingman]
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We pounded the does as hard as we could for a decade, starting in '94. Since then, and since the EHD outbreak of '07, we've backed off on our doe harvests. Now we just try to kill as many does as we do bucks. Our sex ratio has been excellent for the last 6 or 7 years (running a very consistent 1.3 does per buck).
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#1812701 - 02/27/10 11:08 AM Re: Doe management [Re: BSK]
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Prior to the rut I try to only take does where I'm not expecting to hunt during the rut. When I do shoot them I try to take 2-3 in 1 sitting figuring that 1 drag out of the woods leaves less sign than 3 seperate drags. During the rut when bucks are chasing I don't usually shoot does however I have been known to drop a hot doe as an attractant and have had it work several times.
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