#1809015 - 02/25/10 05:29 PM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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I was just saying if you want a 150" plus deer you may have to let even mature bucks pass. Absolutely true. Most of us on here has probably killed a few avg. mature bucks... I disagree. I believe only a small percentage of hunters have ever killed a mature buck. In fact, I know many, many hunters that have hunted for 20+ years and never killed a mature buck, or at best 1 or 2. Consistantly successful mature buck hunters--successful enough to be choosy--are a very rare breed.
Killing a mature deer happens much more than it did even 10 years ago, but it is still not a common occurance on average. I know alot of good hunters who kill mature deer every year. I can name a dozen hunters who I know that can and do kill mature deer with regularity.
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#1809157 - 02/25/10 06:21 PM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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The right place at the right time along with spending as much time in the woods being as motionless as possible and quiet will give you an edge no matter what type deer you hunt IMO.
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#1809946 - 02/25/10 10:28 PM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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The main reason mature deer love thickets, is because deer
hunter's hate thickets. Not all, but most hunters like
visibility. I like "visibility" too.......................but.
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#1810191 - 02/26/10 06:37 AM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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The main reason mature deer love thickets, is because deer
hunter's hate thickets. Not all, but most hunters like
visibility. I like "visibility" too.......................but.
Deer like thick cover because it provides security from all predators. All the major predators of deer need visibility to hunt.
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#1810246 - 02/26/10 07:19 AM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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I didn't read all the posts so sorry if someone else made the same statements.
I post the stories in my first 8 milestones on the big bucks I've killed, each in a different way.
But one thing holds true above all others, learn the terrain and how deer WOULD use it. To me that made all the difference in the world. People get the wrong idea and think like a human being and how that human would use the terrain. I'm NOT saying I try to think like a deer but how would a deer react to certain things, how would they move though the land, deep forest, crop land, and WHY etc. The only way to learn that was to watch them and study them when they were where I could see them. That met I had to hold my fire and just set in my stand and watch. Over time I learned a lot then when I started studying the terrain while scouting I realized deer would use it different than man. The trails, rubs, funnels, etc helped tell the story but it was up to me to finish the story.
I've posted on here for years that the very best time to scout is the day after the season closes. From that day until spring green up is the best time to scout. The woods are as open as they will ever be and it allows you to see things you didn't know where there ever if you've hunted that same ground for years. It's the little things you can find that helps bring it all together.
Here's an example I'm talking about. Years ago I had found a heavy used trail with several large rubs as well as dozens of smaller rubs. It also had several scrapes though the season. I hunted all up and down that trail but never saw anything but small bucks and does. In Jan after season closed I went back and did some heavy scouting and discovered a litly used trail, it was so small at frist I didn't think much about it but I was able to follow it. It was anywhere from 50 to 150 yards from the other trail and followed it most of the way. It turned out to be that bucks trail, he didn't have to walk the same trail but simply follow it from a distant where he could scent check it from downwind and never have to go near it. I got him the next year right over the small trail.
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#1810356 - 02/26/10 08:22 AM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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I have friends that hunt just as hard as I do in and around good sign, pretty quality places. I have seen their set ups and there perfect. But for some reason they can't seem to see any quality bucks year in and year out. Thats what I mean by luck...some have it and some don't.
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#1810370 - 02/26/10 08:33 AM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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Luck is always good to have and it occasionally plays a role. CONSISTENT success has absolutely nothing to do with luck. Nobody is lucky enough to harvest 2 or 3 mature bucks every year when most hunters never harvest more than 1 or 2 in their lifetimes. You have to make your own luck, its where opportunity and preparation meet!
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#1810405 - 02/26/10 08:51 AM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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mathews338
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I have friends that hunt just as hard as I do in and around good sign, pretty quality places. I have seen their set ups and there perfect. But for some reason they can't seem to see any quality bucks year in and year out. Thats what I mean by luck...some have it and some don't.
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#1810534 - 02/26/10 10:16 AM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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I have friends that hunt just as hard as I do in and around good sign, pretty quality places. I have seen their set ups and there perfect. But for some reason they can't seem to see any quality bucks year in and year out. Thats what I mean by luck...some have it and some don't.
If they aren't seeing mature bucks, then their set-up/location is wrong (those aren't locations the bucks use during daylight). It has little to do with luck.
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#1810539 - 02/26/10 10:19 AM
Re: Mature bucks, tactics and extreme measures?
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I have friends that hunt just as hard as I do in and around good sign, pretty quality places. I have seen their set ups and there perfect. But for some reason they can't seem to see any quality bucks year in and year out. Thats what I mean by luck...some have it and some don't. i know some guys like that they are just as skillful as anyone i know but just can't get but one good one every now and then and i think it's because there are only 1 or 2 bigguns running around where they hunt instead of 4 or 5 JMO
There are those on this site that through good hunting techniques/set-ups will have the opportunity to kill every 3 1/2+ year-old buck they get on camera. Again, that isn't luck. It's hunting skill/knowledge.
I just wish I were one of those hunters! 
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