#1817260 - 03/02/10 06:01 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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Ridiculous. Put me on a 200 acre farm that a buck Hasn't been killed in 20 years and waste my time all you want. Some people just can't stop blaming others. I don't get it when I look around I see mature trophy bucks being killed everywhere. Why is it that?
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#1817288 - 03/02/10 06:27 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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First, let me be clear. I am not advocating nor suggesting what Tn should or shouldnt do in regards to harvest, seasons, limits, etc. I believe thats a decision made by hunters and biologist of that particular state. I was simply speaking on a few comments that were made about Ky, our 1 buck limit, soil, etc. I just happen to disagree that our succes is dependent on soil. We have had the same soil for sometime, but havent had the "trophy producing state" tag for that long. Its definitely come since our 1 buck limit, and since deer management has changed among the average hunter. When was the 1 buck limit put in place?
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#1817293 - 03/02/10 06:35 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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Ridiculous. Put me on a 200 acre farm that a buck Hasn't been killed in 20 years and waste my time all you want. Some people just can't stop blaming others. I don't get it when I look around I see mature trophy bucks being killed everywhere. Why is it that? Sorry TN RDG RNR,of course its possible that a buck or 2 could escape,if you truly have high pressure on young bucks all around 200 acres,I can see where very very few could escape to maturity.
If you had a 200 acre square,with a huge 75 acre thick nasty sanctuary in the middle,well maybe they wouldnt come out and get killed while they were young on some one elses property.But land is rarely laid out like that.
I guess what Im saying is,I can see his point.My neighbors,who are looking for 8 pts or better, own about 450 acres that border me N and E,my W border is the Buffalo River,good bit of that is cliff,ansd south is a PHA,with very limited acsess.Im lucky.
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#1817301 - 03/02/10 06:46 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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I say leave the season they way it is.If you want it shorter hunt less. I agree you want bigger bucks dont hunt for a couple of years on that place patrol it and dont let anyone tresspass and make it a santuary,then three years or four go in there and set on that food plot and shoot him,sounds like alot of fun,lol.you get your big deer that you want and you all that want this can leave us9three buck limit or more,alone.
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#1817303 - 03/02/10 06:48 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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Ridiculous. Put me on a 200 acre farm that a buck Hasn't been killed in 20 years and waste my time all you want. Some people just can't stop blaming others. I don't get it when I look around I see mature trophy bucks being killed everywhere. Why is it that? Sorry TN RDG RNR,of course its possible that a buck or 2 could escape,if you truly have high pressure on young bucks all around 200 acres,I can see where very very few could escape to maturity. If you had a 200 acre square,with a huge 75 acre thick nasty sanctuary in the middle,well maybe they wouldnt come out and get killed while they were young on some one elses property.But land is rarely laid out like that. I guess what Im saying is,I can see his point.My neighbors,who are looking for 8 pts or better, own about 450 acres that border me N and E,my W border is the Buffalo River,good bit of that is cliff,ansd south is a PHA,with very limited acsess.Im lucky.
I agree as well, there are places that due to surrounding pressure the chances of having mature bucks is very slim due to pressure on young bucks.
My place was headed for this, but with some cooperation from my neighbors now, we all will have better deer hunting in the future.
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#1817322 - 03/02/10 07:05 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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great post deer bio!!!
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#1817328 - 03/02/10 07:16 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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I can agree that neighbors will effect you but I can't see how it Would be a waste of time to try and manage 200acres no matter what the neighboring land owners shoot.
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#1817382 - 03/02/10 08:04 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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I can agree that neighbors will effect you but I can't see how it Would be a waste of time to try and manage 200acres no matter what the neighboring land owners shoot. That largely depends on the lay of the land and what the land is primarily used for. If someone owns the land and their only goal is deer then they can do a lot. Now if the land is a working farm and is managed as a business then what happens on neighboring land has a major impact. The majority of hunters do not have the luxury of having total control of the land they hunt or the funds available to create enough habitat to hold the deer on the property.
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#1817415 - 03/02/10 08:24 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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I can agree that neighbors will effect you but I can't see how it Would be a waste of time to try and manage 200acres no matter what the neighboring land owners shoot.
I can agree with this as well.
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#1817431 - 03/02/10 08:35 AM
Re: Questions for those advocating a 1 or 2 buck limit
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Someone that knows can post the numbers, I don't know what the state wide ratio numnbers are. I think that Tn. should do whatever they can to get the buck/doe ratio down to where they feel that it needs to be...2 to 1......whatever.
Where I hunt, I have noticed that even though I still see more does than bucks, I AM starting to see more bucks than I used to see.
The closer the ratio is to 2 to 1, the better the hunting will be, IMO.
I think that when the ratio is higher, we lose deer simply because some does go unbred.
I think that the TWRA is moving in the right direction with the higher doe limits, but I do think that a lower buck limit MIGHT help as well.
I'm on the fence about lower buck limts simply because it doesn't affect me that much. I have only taken two bucks in one season ONE TIMe in the last ten years. I usually only take One and have even taken NONE a few years. Not that I don't see plenty of bucks , I just choose to be more selective these days.....
I will say this.........I find it humorous that the buck limit was a great deal more liberal back when you saw fewer bucks.....and now that we are seeing many more bucks than we used to, the limit is lower...
I like the low buck limits because I like watching bucks more than I do does....
I look forward to the day when I can go all season and count more bucks than does.....
JMO
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