#1796984 - 02/18/10 04:36 PM
Re: Proof that it will work in TENNESSEE....
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mathews338
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Somebody answer me this, When KY implented their 1 buck limit which I do believe was 5 or 6 years ago (somebody at any point correct my dates and limits) did they all of a sudden get better soil too? KY has put more book bucks in the last 5 years than any other state! Did they just all of a sudden get a bunch of bucks to come down from Illinois?
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#1796986 - 02/18/10 04:39 PM
Re: Proof that it will work in TENNESSEE....
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mathews338
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I completely agree hunters do have to make their own success. But success is partly due to oppurtunity. Let me make sure I understand you correctly. Are you saying that having more bucks in the woods will not create more oppurtunity for more people to kill a buck of any age? KY and TN believe they have about the same number of deer but KY hunters kill fewer total bucks year after year hence should have many more bucks that survive from year to year. If both state's estimates of their deer population and harvest are accurate, KY has to have more bucks in the population at the beginning of the season, meaning more opportunity. Yet KY hunters DON'T kill more older bucks in number or percentage of the buck harvest. So if opportunity (number of older bucks in the population) drives hunter success, why don't KY hunters benefit from their greater opportunity?
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#1797025 - 02/18/10 05:10 PM
Re: Proof that it will work in TENNESSEE....
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Well success % wise they dont have the boomstick seasons we have. What do we have like 5 times as many boomstick days as KY? Big difference in hunter success percentages if you use all the factors. As for # i know my success is much greater there so either KY hunters cant hunt the big boys or the data is questionable. I tend to think its a little of both. 
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#1797938 - 02/19/10 07:23 AM
Re: Proof that it will work in TENNESSEE....
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Well success % wise they dont have the boomstick seasons we have. What do we have like 5 times as many boomstick days as KY? Big difference in hunter success percentages if you use all the factors.
All states with short gun seasons have higher kills per day than states with long gun seasons. And that's an argument against short gun seasons. It places exponentially more harvest pressure on the bucks in a short time.
I grew up hunting KY, and after opening weekend of gun season the deer were so pressured that hunting quality went down the toilet. That's one of the reasons I stopped hunting KY and moved to a state with better, less pressure-inducing seasons. My success has increased exponentially since making that move.
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#1798024 - 02/19/10 08:11 AM
Re: Proof that it will work in TENNESSEE....
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Well success % wise they dont have the boomstick seasons we have. What do we have like 5 times as many boomstick days as KY? Big difference in hunter success percentages if you use all the factors. As for # i know my success is much greater there so either KY hunters cant hunt the big boys or the data is questionable. I tend to think its a little of both.
longer seasons give us the opportunity to be more selective because we have more time to hunt the deer we are looking for.
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#1798051 - 02/19/10 08:20 AM
Re: Proof that it will work in TENNESSEE....
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Well success % wise they dont have the boomstick seasons we have. What do we have like 5 times as many boomstick days as KY? Big difference in hunter success percentages if you use all the factors. As for # i know my success is much greater there so either KY hunters cant hunt the big boys or the data is questionable. I tend to think its a little of both. longer seasons give us the opportunity to be more selective because we have more time to hunt the deer we are looking for.
HH,
That's one of the good arguments against short gun seasons. They force hunters to be less selective. With a short gun season, if you want to take a buck you better take the first one that presents itself.
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