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#1796217 - 02/18/10 08:45 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: 51 pointer]
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 Originally Posted By: 51 pointer
I've never heard anyone ask this question....

Why does anyone want a three buck limit?
And how is it better for the Buck population than a lower buck limit?

If you want meat kill a doe, right?
In areas with a low deer population killing a doe only makes matters worse. Killing bucks dosen't affect the ability of the herd to grow as much as harvesting a doe. If there are enough bucks to breed all the does in a specific area then the harvest rate on the bucks in that area is not too high.
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#1796220 - 02/18/10 08:49 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: gator-n-buck]
mathews338
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
I think its been said on here before and I believe it to be true.... Buck limits don't improve hunter's skills. I think some of these guys have the notion that reducing buck limits are going to put more trophies on the walls. Hard work, putting the time in, and a little luck helps hunters to accomplish their goals. If you think changing buck limits in the state of TN from three to one is going to make you a better hunter, then I think you are fooling yourself...JMO
i agree somewhat

but a blind hog can find an acorn every now and then but his chances are better when the trees are loaded

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#1796225 - 02/18/10 08:52 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: Football Hunter]
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How many can honestly say if given the chance
to kill 3 trophy bucks whatever that might be to
you in 1 Tn hunting season wouldn't do it?
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#1796235 - 02/18/10 08:55 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
How many can honestly say if given the chance
to kill 3 trophy bucks whatever that might be to
you in 1 Tn hunting season wouldn't do it?
Not me ridge,but I can honestly say,that I havent ever been near the oppurtunity to do so.But Im working hard on it.I havent killed 3 bucks in the last 5 years in Tn,By choice,and 1 miss.
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#1796245 - 02/18/10 09:01 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: mathews338]
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 Originally Posted By: mathews338
but a blind hog can find an acorn every now and then but his chances are better when the trees are loaded



So are we supposed to reduce every single hunters ability to harvest a deer to load the scales for the "blind" hunter? (We'll call him the not-so-passionate hunter to remain politically correct.)

Not trying to sound offensive but it sounds somewhat socialistic. The hunters willing to work hard can reap tremendous benefits with the current system. It seems as if some folks want everyone on the same plane so even the folks who don't try very hard can reap the same benefits. Unfortunately mature buck hunting doesn't play out that way...it is something you need to work hard for.

Anyhow, not getting into a debate. All we are talking about is degrees of health. Our agency contends that once a herd is deemed healthy, we should create as much opportortunity as possible without negatively affecting the health of the herd.
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#1796292 - 02/18/10 09:26 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: mathews338]
gator-n-buck
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 Originally Posted By: mathews338
 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
I think its been said on here before and I believe it to be true.... Buck limits don't improve hunter's skills. I think some of these guys have the notion that reducing buck limits are going to put more trophies on the walls. Hard work, putting the time in, and a little luck helps hunters to accomplish their goals. If you think changing buck limits in the state of TN from three to one is going to make you a better hunter, then I think you are fooling yourself...JMO
i agree somewhat

but a blind hog can find an acorn every now and then but his chances are better when the trees are loaded



So we don't want to hunt, we want a free hand out... Deer hunting isn't shooting fish in the barrel..


Edited by gator-n-buck (02/18/10 09:30 AM)

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#1796429 - 02/18/10 10:38 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: BigGameGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
So are we supposed to reduce every single hunters ability to harvest a deer to load the scales for the "blind" hunter? (We'll call him the not-so-passionate hunter to remain politically correct.)

Not trying to sound offensive but it sounds somewhat socialistic. The hunters willing to work hard can reap tremendous benefits with the current system. It seems as if some folks want everyone on the same plane so even the folks who don't try very hard can reap the same benefits. Unfortunately mature buck hunting doesn't play out that way...it is something you need to work hard for.


Very well said BGG. Deer hunting isn't supposed to be easy, and being successful at the highest level (mature bucks) does and SHOULD require great skill and hard work. It should be a tremendous accomplishment that someone has to work very hard for.


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Our agency contends that once a herd is deemed healthy, we should create as much opportortunity as possible without negatively affecting the health of the herd.


I couldn't agree more. Provide maximum opportunity without doing harm to the herd.
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#1796471 - 02/18/10 11:01 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: gator-n-buck]
51 pointer
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Personally I think TWRA has made all the appropriate progress from what I've heard from old timers. I started hunting while in college in the early 90's. Seeing deer was never a problem except my first year because I didn't know what I was doing at all. 3 Buck Limit is probably the best solution compared to what it was. We can manage our own places the best we can with our own rules and limits. Keep up the good work TWRA!!
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#1796483 - 02/18/10 11:07 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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 Originally Posted By: TN RDG RNR
How many can honestly say if given the chance
to kill 3 trophy bucks whatever that might be to
you in 1 Tn hunting season wouldn't do it?


I can say I would not. Last year I killed my best buck ever the first week of archery. I then put all my effort into helping my wife get a chance at a good deer. This past season I hunted very little for myself. Only knew of 1 real nice older buck and a couple nice middle age deer. I wanted my wife to get one and the rest of the time I spent taking either a young handicapped boy or his sister. Even if I was run over with 4.5 year old I would not want to kill 3 for myself. I believe in spreading the glory.

Let me clear something up. I am not completely against the 3 buck limit. I just believe that if lowered to a 2 buck limit more people will see bucks. I know for a fact that I could have kept some people from killing a deer if I would have shot it first. In some cases I have let them walk in hopes that person would kill it and they did. I know if more deer are allowed to walk more people will kill deer. I have seen it happen!
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#1796509 - 02/18/10 11:23 AM Re: One or two buck limits. [Re: 51 pointer]
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 Originally Posted By: 51 pointer
 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
 Originally Posted By: 51 pointer
I've never heard anyone ask this question....

Why does anyone want a three buck limit?
And how is it better for the Buck population than a lower buck limit?

If you want meat kill a doe, right?
seems right to me,but IM a nut!


me too!


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