#1783209 - 02/11/10 09:01 PM
LBL loses lawsuit
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LBL lost the lawsuit and no crops will be planted inside LBL this year or the near future.
This is very bad news.
http://www.kentucky.com/latest_news/story/1134698.html
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#1783492 - 02/11/10 09:35 PM
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Here we go....again, politics get in the way of deer hunting. Environmental WACK-KOS is what we get from the liberals. ITS A HEAT WAVE UP NORT the Earth is getting warmer LOL. When I was in elimentry school the scientests said we were overdue for a ICE AGE , it looks like the old scientests were right and the Vietnam war protesting Environmental WACK-KOS punks are wrong. New record snow fall up north DONT-YA-KNOW.
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#1783665 - 02/11/10 09:53 PM
Re: LBL loses lawsuit
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Several of us (Wildcat included) tried to tell the LBL hunters this WAS GOING to happen. We were written off as behaving stupidly.
Now let me tell you what else is going to happen. LBL is going to become just another old-growth forest, much like other National Forest lands, i.e. like the Cherokee National Forest (at least in terms of trees). Perhaps I and most of you reading this will be done hunting by the time this happens, as it will be many decades before those open fields become mature forests ---- but that's where this is headed. Perhaps we can turn this around in the coming years, perhaps some legitimate conservation groups such as TWF and the NWTF can help, but for every 3 steps we take forward, going to be a challenge to not take 4 steps backward.
Parts of LBL will be set aside as "Wilderness Areas". (Yes, for those in the know, the definition of "Wilderness" will have to be changed to accomodate smaller acreages.) Hunting will not be allowed in these areas. Eventually, there will be no hunting at LBL, although that may be decades, the handwriting is on the wall. Step-by-step, it is happening. If you want to make it happen faster, just keep voting for those democrats.
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#1783735 - 02/11/10 10:06 PM
Re: LBL loses lawsuit
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plinker22
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Here we go....again, politics get in the way of deer hunting. Environmental WACK-KOS is what we get from the liberals.
I agree with you Locksley, GURRRRRRR!!!!!!
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#1783765 - 02/11/10 10:14 PM
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I sure hope hunting will still be allowed. I don't mind the crops not being planted. There is much land for the deer to feed on even without crops. I feel that the herd may initially suffer but will adjust just fine over time. I think the hunters will too. Hunters will have to use their woodsmanship skills more now and won't be able to wait at the edge of fields waiting for them to come in and eat corn or soybeans. Deer will adapt and those idiots who want to make this political can do so in some office somewhere. I'll just stick to hunting as usual.
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#1783766 - 02/11/10 10:14 PM
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What the hell is going on in this country? If you had told me national and Washington politics would control game management policies, back in the 60's, 70's, and even 80's...........I would have said you were crazy.
I never thought I would see a trend towards communisum in our country, in my lifetime, but it is a harsh realization....NOW.
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#1783770 - 02/11/10 10:15 PM
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Several of us (Wildcat included) tried to tell the LBL hunters this WAS GOING to happen. We were written off as behaving stupidly.
Now let me tell you what else is going to happen. LBL is going to become just another old-growth forest, much like other National Forest lands, i.e. like the Cherokee National Forest (at least in terms of trees). Perhaps I and most of you reading this will be done hunting by the time this happens, as it will be many decades before those open fields become mature forests ---- but that's where this is headed. Perhaps we can turn this around in the coming years, perhaps some legitimate conservation groups such as TWF and the NWTF can help, but for every 3 steps we take forward, going to be a challenge to not take 4 steps backward.
Parts of LBL will be set aside as "Wilderness Areas". (Yes, for those in the know, the definition of "Wilderness" will have to be changed to accomodate smaller acreages.) Hunting will not be allowed in these areas. Eventually, there will be no hunting at LBL, although that may be decades, the handwriting is on the wall. Step-by-step, it is happening. If you want to make it happen faster, just keep voting for those democrats.
This area used to be private property anyway. Let it go back to those who originally settled here and who owned it. That scenario wouldn't bother me as much as hypocritical hunters trying to make their own personal agenda out to be another groups agenda. It started out as "Private property" and No Hunting so why worry about it going back to those days as long as those whose families owned the land are given it back. TVA had their agenda after they took it and the forest Division had theirs. What's the difference in YOUR opinion being any different?
Edited by DUCK37101 (02/11/10 10:19 PM)
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#1783817 - 02/11/10 10:36 PM
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It's been public property since 1964, 46 years.
There are dozens of groups that want to do that very thing, give it back to the owners. Most of them are after the PROFITS it will make, high dollar private hunting clubs for one.
The deer hunting will be better this year and next. After that it will go down hill for the next 3-5 years then level off. The deer numbers will also level off like they do in every old growth forest.
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#1783833 - 02/11/10 10:44 PM
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DUCK37101
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It's been public property since 1964, 46 years.
There are dozens of groups that want to do that very thing, give it back to the owners. Most of them are after the PROFITS it will make, high dollar private hunting clubs for one.
The deer hunting will be better this year and next. After that it will go down hill for the next 3-5 years then level off. The deer numbers will also level off like they do in every old growth forest.
I was making a point that it changed hands due to agenda oriented causes. It didn't belong to anyone but those who owned it to begin with and saying that it may go back to being privately owned would be sweet justice for those who may get their land back if it would ever work that way. If it did i wouldn't care what they did with it because it was THEIRS to begin with. Saying someone is Liberal and has an agenda is hypocritical seeing that those making the comment also have an agenda.
I love hunting at LBL and am sick of hearing about the political BS coming from some KY judges decision. I'll just hunt when possible and enjoy the privelege to do so until such time that I can't. The deer herd won't suffer near as bad as some think.
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