#1778472 - 02/10/10 07:27 AM
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CoastieHunter
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FYI, Bass Pro has the Trophy Rocks at $15.99 now. Usually I saw them at $20 + and never bought one. But the wife let me get one for this upcoming year.
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My question is this.... I see many different set-ups for the Trophy Rock.
How would one reccommend setting up a trophy rock area(s)?
I've heard best way is find out where you want to put a stand up 1st.
Then find a good used trail.
Clear the ground about 4x4' to the dirt and place the trophy rock in the middle.
As far as the cam I know that part actually.
ANYWHO... what you guys think?
Oh, and if I put it out this weekend coming up do you think it will work until the '10 season opens up?
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#1778485 - 02/10/10 07:33 AM
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as to where, just pick a spot. they will find it. i purposely started one lick as far from any established trails as i could. there are now 3 trails to it.
it will last longer if you put it on a stump.
i refresh mine about every 3 months. i doubt just 1 rock will last through the spring, much less into deer season.
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#1778487 - 02/10/10 07:34 AM
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The only thing I would do that you didn't mention is put the rock on a stump. That way the residue runs down the stump and when they start hitting it they will dig all the way around it. Good luck.
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#1778489 - 02/10/10 07:35 AM
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Sorry Stik, you beat me to it.
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#1778493 - 02/10/10 07:36 AM
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AH... ok makes sense.
So just a small stump maybe a foot off the ground.
Should I clear around the stump to the dirt?
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#1778517 - 02/10/10 07:42 AM
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the deer will clear it out.
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#1778518 - 02/10/10 07:42 AM
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Stumps are good. In the past, we would take a lot of brown sugar and mix with water to make a paste (on the thin side) and pour it down into a stump. Next thing you know, there's no bark on the stump and it's smoother than a baby's rear end, plus they'll dig a hole around the edge.
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#1778555 - 02/10/10 07:59 AM
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here's a tip..........to get pics of good deer, place the rock and camera set-up in a thick area.......don't put it out in the open.......deer will feel more comfortable coming to it, even during the day.
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#1778619 - 02/10/10 08:29 AM
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here's a tip..........to get pics of good deer, place the rock and camera set-up in a thick area.......don't put it out in the open.......deer will feel more comfortable coming to it, even during the day.
BH
I do that too, and it works very well. 
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#1778638 - 02/10/10 08:38 AM
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Ok, sounds good to me.
This property has never been hunted and the first time we're going out there is this weekend.
Scouting for me starts at the end of the previous season.
I guess some 160 class deer was taken a few years back about a mile from this property. Should have some good pics... hopefully!
Either way I'll make sure and put this thing in the thick thick stuff.
As far as putting a stand near the trophy rock... should I put the stand on a trail leading to rock OR right on top of the rock.
I'm pretty sure (I'll double check) that trophy rocks are not considered "baiting" due to their salt content ALSO there ARE cattle on the property but will not be able to get to this rock.
Any success on hunting a rock and shooting deer off it?
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#1778689 - 02/10/10 09:00 AM
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It maybe just me, but I wouldn't set up on the rock. Get back from it and intercept deer headed to it. I think you could mess it up if you were right on it.
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#1778734 - 02/10/10 09:21 AM
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Here is how I do it...
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#1778881 - 02/10/10 10:28 AM
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Cool, now to find a stump in the junk.... Wow, that sounded odd!
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#1778962 - 02/10/10 10:54 AM
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here's a tip..........to get pics of good deer, place the rock and camera set-up in a thick area.......don't put it out in the open.......deer will feel more comfortable coming to it, even during the day.
BH
mine is in open woods and they don't hesitate to use it.
It maybe just me, but I wouldn't set up on the rock. Get back from it and intercept deer headed to it. I think you could mess it up if you were right on it.
everybody else sets up on the rocks with no ill effects.
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#1779024 - 02/10/10 11:19 AM
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here's a tip..........to get pics of good deer, place the rock and camera set-up in a thick area.......don't put it out in the open.......deer will feel more comfortable coming to it, even during the day.
BH mine is in open woods and they don't hesitate to use it. It maybe just me, but I wouldn't set up on the rock. Get back from it and intercept deer headed to it. I think you could mess it up if you were right on it. everybody else sets up on the rocks with no ill effects.
got any daylight pics of GOOD bucks.....haha..?
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#1779027 - 02/10/10 11:21 AM
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here's a tip..........to get pics of good deer, place the rock and camera set-up in a thick area.......don't put it out in the open.......deer will feel more comfortable coming to it, even during the day.
BH mine is in open woods and they don't hesitate to use it. It maybe just me, but I wouldn't set up on the rock. Get back from it and intercept deer headed to it. I think you could mess it up if you were right on it. everybody else sets up on the rocks with no ill effects. got any daylight pics of GOOD bucks.....haha..? BH
i got no daylight pics of ANY deer during this season,no matter where i moved the camera to. but i did kill a 4 1/2 yr old 8 pt.off it several years ago.
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#1779088 - 02/10/10 11:45 AM
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here's a tip..........to get pics of good deer, place the rock and camera set-up in a thick area.......don't put it out in the open.......deer will feel more comfortable coming to it, even during the day.
BH mine is in open woods and they don't hesitate to use it. It maybe just me, but I wouldn't set up on the rock. Get back from it and intercept deer headed to it. I think you could mess it up if you were right on it. everybody else sets up on the rocks with no ill effects. got any daylight pics of GOOD bucks.....haha..? BH
I do BH a thousand over the last 5 years....here is my Fav of all tho
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#1779212 - 02/10/10 12:47 PM
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I prefer to have my Trophy Rocks back in the woods (so that deer feel more comfortable using them in daylight) but along a trail or old logging road that leads to a food source, and within 50-100 yards of the food source.
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#1779257 - 02/10/10 01:05 PM
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Missme, that is one big cat!
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#1779298 - 02/10/10 01:30 PM
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Missme, that is one big cat!
You aren't kidding!
Cool photo!
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#1779381 - 02/10/10 02:07 PM
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LOL, if I was having no success getting pics on my cam with or without a TR, I dont think I would be on a forum GIVING advice???  LOL sounds like some NEED advice instead of giving it!! just sayin! 
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#1781926 - 02/11/10 12:12 PM
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on a stump,farly thick area
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#1782497 - 02/11/10 06:45 PM
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Rocks or salt licks are a great way to get an inventory of your bucks in the area,especially mid to late summer.Have any of you guys noticed that if you refresh a lick too close to opening day of bow season,the deer seem to pull off it for a while?Maybe its just me,but I leave mine alone after Aug 1st,and as we all know,be mindful of scent control when checking cams.
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#1783921 - 02/12/10 12:34 AM
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i don't worry about scent control. we are constantly in and out refreshing salt and checking cameras.i want them to know i have been there. just like anything else, they get used to you being there.
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#1783978 - 02/12/10 05:24 AM
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i don't worry about scent control. we are constantly in and out refreshing salt and checking cameras.i want them to know i have been there. just like anything else, they get used to you being there.
I'm beginning to believe this is exactly the case. Same as working in food plots. If your scent is in these plots year round, deer seem much less wary of human intrusion during hunting season.
In fact, I wonder if I can't get away with more during hunting season because I'm checking and moving cameras on a weekly basis for 6 months out of the year. Perhaps deer are getting used to my personal scent.
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#1784158 - 02/12/10 07:24 AM
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I agree about the scent control. We walked our food plots all the time during plotting, and the season. We would spray off a bit before actually hunting. But you're bound to miss a little bit of human odor. I think the deer get used to it and are a little less frightened at the smell.
As far as scent control on my trophy rock. I plan on having a "backdoor" entrance to get my cam and thats it. If I need to "refresh" my TR then I will be able to throw it from where I put my cam therefore not distrubign their licking post.
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#1785163 - 02/12/10 05:14 PM
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Deer can and do get conditioned to many things concerning humans. Mature deer however are much less forgiving, especially during daylight hours!
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#1785873 - 02/12/10 10:39 PM
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LOL, if I was having no success getting pics on my cam with or without a TR, I dont think I would be on a forum GIVING advice??? LOL sounds like some NEED advice instead of giving it!! just sayin!
assuming this shot was at me, i get 300-600 pics a week. ALL were at night this year. maybe you need to start thinking before you spout off!! just saying!
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#1786104 - 02/13/10 07:54 AM
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i don't worry about scent control. we are constantly in and out refreshing salt and checking cameras.i want them to know i have been there. just like anything else, they get used to you being there.
That's one of the reasons I hang almost all of my stands on teh edge of logging trails. The farm I hunt has people trail riding horses all the time.
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#1786789 - 02/13/10 05:23 PM
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LOL, if I was having no success getting pics on my cam with or without a TR, I dont think I would be on a forum GIVING advice??? LOL sounds like some NEED advice instead of giving it!! just sayin! assuming this shot was at me, i get 300-600 pics a week. ALL were at night this year. maybe you need to start thinking before you spout off!! just saying!
Just saying what, you said you got ZERO daylight pics all year, then your giving advice on where/how to set cams??? I think its pretty obvious as to who needs advice, as you cant hunt at night, legally anyway! If you get that many pics at night, you need some serious help in knowing where to get them during daylight! Im sure there are several on here who woulld be willing to help you out and make you succesful with your camera if you just asked them! Just saying!! lmao
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#1786800 - 02/13/10 05:30 PM
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ALL deer activity on our place was noctournal THIS year. i have plenty of daylight pictures from the previous years in the same places. i saw a grand total of 4 deer all season during daylight hours yet the deer sign was more than i have ever seen.
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#1791959 - 02/16/10 07:39 AM
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I agree with Stik on this one as far as the deer movement this year. On our property during the summer we got tons of daylight pictures. But once the season ramped up the buck ALL went nocturnal. I went out just about 2-3 x's per week and only saw 1 spike. BUT I did see a lot of does. I've never seen the bucks go so nocturnal in all my years hunting.
OK... so I went out to the new property and placed the cam and TR about 100yrds into some hardwoods on a stump. There are plenty of places to get a climber in there too.
I placed it near a well used trail and set it on a large stump.
How long does it take for the deer to find the TR if you did not put it directly on a trail?
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#1792319 - 02/16/10 10:28 AM
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How long does it take for the deer to find the TR if you did not put it directly on a trail?
It all depends on the area, but most times the deer will find a Salt site within just a couple days, especially after it warms up a little and daily usage increases.
If you are having trouble with the deer suddenly going nocturnal during hunting season, I would try some different tactics/approaches that maybe would be less intrusive and not alert them so much to the fact your hunting them. Especially with older deer, once they know you are hunting them, they become much harder to kill, but during November they are definitely not normally even close to being totally nocturnal, they have just learned to avoid you and your camera sites.
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#1792388 - 02/16/10 11:12 AM
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The reason they were nocturnal so much was because we had a guy on our lease that was "high up" on the epsilan of lease members that kept wanting and moving stands. He'd be moving large 2 man stands like once a week.
Between that and the fact that we found another guy that would walk the whole property all week long -vs- still hunt.
It was corrected mid-december and guys started seeing many deer on the food plots all during the day as well as some more bucks. I was just not one of the lucky ones to see a buck during daylight other than a spike.
Sounds good as to only a couple of days for the TR. I put it out on Saturday so I'll wait and check the cam not this weekend but the following.
The new property we got had a big buck program implemented so it should be interesting to see. Hopefully a couple still have some headgear left!
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#1792403 - 02/16/10 11:24 AM
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I understand CH, thats normally the case, just takes 1 person to ruin a good piece of property if they dont know what their doing, especially in regards to older deer. Deer dont just go nocturnal for no reason, its usually because someone that doesnt know what their doing is keeping them spooked regularly, by hunting with bad winds or wrong entry exit routes to stands, constantly spooking deer while waltzing around during season, invading their sanctuaries, etc. If you have someone making all the wrong moves it will definitely hurt your daytime sightings.
Good luck with the Cam and I would suggest trying 'loose trace mineral salt' in the future, it will work just as well as the TR and it costs much much less per lb. I have used both in side by side comparisons on the same properties and had equal if not better use from the cheaper Salt.
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#1793898 - 02/16/10 10:45 PM
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