#1769082 - 02/05/10 10:58 AM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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Deer hunting is not supposed to be easy. It supposed to be the epitome of woodsmanship skills learned over a lifetime of hard work and experience. Reducing deer hunting to pointing a weapon at a pile of corn is not the epitome of woodsmanship skill, it is the epitome of the lazy, I-want-everything-for-nothing society we have become. If that's what you believe, why do you hunt out an elevated stand? Just go sell all those trail cams you have, never buy another trophy rock, learn to shoot a bow (had to throw that in), I can go on and on. If you're against it, fine, but come with something better than that. Don't preach woodsmanship, then get on here and show a pic of a 5 1/2 year old buck taken with your trail cam licking on a Trophy Rock with his belly full of clover from your food plot. Amen, Yodel. People get an agenda, and if you don't adhere, then what you think or what you do is wrong! All of these holier than thou types use every advantage they can to kill a deer, but if you don't see any difference in using some other advantage about which they don't happen to approve , say hunting over corn, then you are WRONG! Basically its just human nature for some to tell us how we ought to act, and think. Washington is full of those types, and there are a fair number on this forum. I will do what I please on my own property, and whatever that happens to be, short of launching an ICBM, is of no concern of anyone else. Some of us call that freedom. LOL So are you saying you favor baiting over learning to hunt?  How did you meetr your wife. Bait or hunting? "Learning to hunt", like using tree stands,so-called scent blockers, rattling horns, grunt calls, trail cams, trophy rock, food plots as an attractant, range finders, state of the art crossbows,compounds that can cast an arrow at over 300 fps, expandable broadheads, rifles that can kill at 400 yards, muzzleloaders(primitive weapons)that can kill at 200? If you use any of this stuff, it is no different than hunting over corn as an attractant. All are designed to make killing a deer easier. ...., if you want to "learn to hunt", hide in a honeysuckle thicket with a spear! And, while it has been a long time ago, I believe that I acquired my wife, like most things that I have acquired in life, thru blind-hog luck. LOL
I agree with BSK. Sure there are things that make hunting easier (compound bows, tree stands, scent blocker, scents ect...) Baiting doesnt make hunting easier it elminates hunting all together. Just pour the corn out and shoot. Hunting isnt required.
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#1769148 - 02/05/10 11:51 AM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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BigWes50
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I'm not for baiting but I see no difference hunting over a trophy rock and a pile of corn both are used to attract deer to that area
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#1769159 - 02/05/10 12:05 PM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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4onaside
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4-isn't that way we all got ours? Sometimes good luck, sometimes bad luck. Kinda like hunting, aint it? I hope you caught the humor in that. I baited mine 35 years ago with an offer to fix her breakfast. We were standing at a dumpster. She never went home except to get her clothes. It's called bait and switch. I still fix her brealfast at least once a week. Got to keep the bait pile fresh But if you know where the deer is going to be, how do you use the word hunt?
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#1769162 - 02/05/10 12:08 PM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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4onaside
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Deer hunting is not supposed to be easy. It supposed to be the epitome of woodsmanship skills learned over a lifetime of hard work and experience. Reducing deer hunting to pointing a weapon at a pile of corn is not the epitome of woodsmanship skill, it is the epitome of the lazy, I-want-everything-for-nothing society we have become. If that's what you believe, why do you hunt out an elevated stand? Just go sell all those trail cams you have, never buy another trophy rock, learn to shoot a bow (had to throw that in), I can go on and on. If you're against it, fine, but come with something better than that. Don't preach woodsmanship, then get on here and show a pic of a 5 1/2 year old buck taken with your trail cam licking on a Trophy Rock with his belly full of clover from your food plot. Amen, Yodel. People get an agenda, and if you don't adhere, then what you think or what you do is wrong! All of these holier than thou types use every advantage they can to kill a deer, but if you don't see any difference in using some other advantage about which they don't happen to approve , say hunting over corn, then you are WRONG! Basically its just human nature for some to tell us how we ought to act, and think. Washington is full of those types, and there are a fair number on this forum. I will do what I please on my own property, and whatever that happens to be, short of launching an ICBM, is of no concern of anyone else. Some of us call that freedom. LOL So are you saying you favor baiting over learning to hunt? How did you meetr your wife. Bait or hunting? "Learning to hunt", like using tree stands,so-called scent blockers, rattling horns, grunt calls, trail cams, trophy rock, food plots as an attractant, range finders, state of the art crossbows,compounds that can cast an arrow at over 300 fps, expandable broadheads, rifles that can kill at 400 yards, muzzleloaders(primitive weapons)that can kill at 200? If you use any of this stuff, it is no different than hunting over corn as an attractant. All are designed to make killing a deer easier. ...., if you want to "learn to hunt", hide in a honeysuckle thicket with a spear! And, while it has been a long time ago, I believe that I acquired my wife, like most things that I have acquired in life, thru blind-hog luck. LOL I agree with BSK. Sure there are things that make hunting easier (compound bows, tree stands, scent blocker, scents ect...) Baiting doesnt make hunting easier it elminates hunting all together. Just pour the corn out and shoot. Hunting isnt required.
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#1769367 - 02/05/10 03:34 PM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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bobthebowhunter
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killin over bait aint hunting.
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#1773572 - 02/08/10 07:46 AM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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Right_Tackle74
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Just remember according to the Outdoor channel you can't even think about killing a deer without a T/C muzzleloader, Matthews Bow, Scent Lock,How could we kill one over bait?
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#1773669 - 02/08/10 08:46 AM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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4onaside
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Just remember according to the Outdoor channel you can't even think about killing a deer without a T/C muzzleloader, Matthews Bow, Scent Lock,How could we kill one over bait?
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#1775348 - 02/08/10 08:32 PM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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If TWRA could figure out a way to increase revenue out of it, then consider it done!
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#1775423 - 02/08/10 08:56 PM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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If TWRA could figure out a way to increase revenue out of it, then consider it done!
They are collecting revenue over baiting as it is. They are working leads and tips, collecting anything of value and "auctioning" the items off. Collecting fines from the convicted.
I have thought this may be the biggest reason baiting isnt legalized.
If the agency was keeping baiting illegal for any reason to protect the wildlife etc, I would be for it. But, if that was the case I think baiting/feeding the entire 12 months of the years should be illegal. Since feeding wildlife nearly 9 months of the years seems to be harmless to the deer, I would be hard pressed to think feeding during hunting season would be harmful to their health as well.
As for the ethical thoughts of "hunting" over bait, I feel like anything else in life... if you disagree with it, dont do it. If it is LEGAL and you agree or dont have issues, then do it!
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#1775429 - 02/08/10 08:58 PM
Re: Legalize Baiting
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Setterman
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This whole conversation is comical, baiting will not be legal in this state anytime in our futures. Just not going to happen, and that is a good thing. Maybe we can preserve a shred of the sport before the whole ball of yarn is unwound.
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