#1767296 - 02/04/10 04:03 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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mathews338
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how is a surrounding county gonna assist when its surrounded by water on all of the KY sides?
Im not real sure what your getting at.
Just because christian, trigg, graves and some of those co. produce big deer, it doesnt mean squat. its like comparing apples to oranges.
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#1767417 - 02/04/10 05:00 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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About that one permit, both sides. It's not up to LBL but up to TWRA and KDFWR, state law and hunting rules state you need that states license to hunt each side.
Fort Campbell is different. It is MILITARY land, diffrerent set of rules. Other states that have large military bases that overlap other states has the same deal. One other note: You are only allowed two deer from LBL. If you kill two in KY, you are done, if you kill two in TN, you are done and if you kill one in each state, you are done. Only one of the two can be antlered. They are combining the limit but not the permit. Nothing like a Federally run outfit.  Both FEDERAL though. I wonder why Military is different when talking about hunting whitetail deer?
Another reason why I don't think that someone should have to get another states licenses if they have the other states licenses. If I have all my TN licenses then I should be able to hunt LBL (as a whole) especially since I have to abide by the 2 deer limit.
Good point.
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#1767421 - 02/04/10 05:01 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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Sorry if I'm repeating (I'm sure I am), but everyone knows that Kentucky has bigger deer than Tennessee. DUH!!! The deer don't cross that state line. It's like Thermocell for "big" deer!
I could see the soil difference as I crossed into KY while travelling on the Trace in LBL, LOL.
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#1767560 - 02/04/10 06:12 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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Its always nice to hear so many views on a topic. I've been hunting LBL for about 10 years mostly in only 2 areas on the TN side. I've been lucky to have taken a couple mature deer at LBL. Since I've started hunting in Ky on a lease, I'm going to do some scouting on LBL KY before spring time. I only wish I lived a little closer.
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#1767651 - 02/04/10 06:33 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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I really enjoy LBL, but have only hunted there 2 years. All my hunts have been on the TN side.
This year I bought an Ohio License and traveled up there a few times. For that reason, I did not travel to LBL. I can tell you, I sure did miss going to LBL.
Great place, just wish I understood it (and all hunting land) better.
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#1767803 - 02/04/10 07:20 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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I for one do NOT want LBL to ever go to either license covering the entire LBL, hunt on either side.
Once they did that then we will have more than double the number of archery hunters in there all over the place. Think about it. Hunters from BOTH STATES will now have a chance to hunt the other side for FREE (one license and one permit), they didn't have that before and now it becomes more worth the drive.
Also LBL will have to keep or lower the number of gun hunters. LBL averages 10,000 aplications every year for it's gun hunts. Those same "NEW" archery hunters will not start to apply with everybody else.
Fort Cambell could have more hunters but there are certain rules and ways to get a area to hunt that to a lot of people it's not worth the trouble. Some of the older hunters do not have a hunter safely card, they didn't need one if born after certain dates, but Fort Campbell requires it as does ALL military bases. It might have changed but years ago I saw people drive all night, stand in line and when drawn did not get what they wanted so they went home. I also see on here about the phone calling and to some people that is just too much bother.
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#1767859 - 02/04/10 07:32 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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I for one do NOT want LBL to ever go to either license covering the entire LBL, hunt on either side.
Once they did that then we will have more than double the number of archery hunters in there all over the place. Think about it. Hunters from BOTH STATES will now have a chance to hunt the other side for FREE (one license and one permit), they didn't have that before and now it becomes more worth the drive.
Also LBL will have to keep or lower the number of gun hunters. LBL averages 10,000 aplications every year for it's gun hunts. Those same "NEW" archery hunters will not start to apply with everybody else.
Fort Cambell could have more hunters but there are certain rules and ways to get a area to hunt that to a lot of people it's not worth the trouble. Some of the older hunters do not have a hunter safely card, they didn't need one if born after certain dates, but Fort Campbell requires it as does ALL military bases. It might have changed but years ago I saw people drive all night, stand in line and when drawn did not get what they wanted so they went home. I also see on here about the phone calling and to some people that is just too much bother.
LBL licenses are ONLY for LBL as it is now and nobody will be hunting anywhere on LBL for free. Everyone has to buy a LBL Hunter Use Permit to hunt and this money ONLY goes to LBL.
LBL can keep their quota hunts the same. Why would they have to change just because of archery hunters?
"Once they did that then we will have more than double the number of archery hunters in there all over the place."
I doubt it would be double. The increased number of hunters from both sides would generate more income for BOTH sides and that would be a good thing.
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#1767940 - 02/04/10 07:51 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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nate17
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how is a surrounding county gonna assist when its surrounded by water on all of the KY sides?
Im not real sure what your getting at.
Just because christian, trigg, graves and some of those co. produce big deer, it doesnt mean squat. its like comparing apples to oranges. deer can swim LOL
I'm pretty sure anyone knows deer can swim, but how many people have actually seen a deer swim a lake like that, much less a mature deer.
I rest my case.
Theres no need in pretending lbl is holding mature deer becuase they all swam from surrounding counties. 99.99% of lbls deer are home grown.
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#1767989 - 02/04/10 08:01 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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I for one do NOT want LBL to ever go to either license covering the entire LBL, hunt on either side.
Once they did that then we will have more than double the number of archery hunters in there all over the place. Think about it. Hunters from BOTH STATES will now have a chance to hunt the other side for FREE (one license and one permit), they didn't have that before and now it becomes more worth the drive.
Also LBL will have to keep or lower the number of gun hunters. LBL averages 10,000 aplications every year for it's gun hunts. Those same "NEW" archery hunters will not start to apply with everybody else.
Fort Cambell could have more hunters but there are certain rules and ways to get a area to hunt that to a lot of people it's not worth the trouble. Some of the older hunters do not have a hunter safely card, they didn't need one if born after certain dates, but Fort Campbell requires it as does ALL military bases. It might have changed but years ago I saw people drive all night, stand in line and when drawn did not get what they wanted so they went home. I also see on here about the phone calling and to some people that is just too much bother. LBL licenses are ONLY for LBL as it is now and nobody will be hunting anywhere on LBL for free. Everyone has to buy a LBL Hunter Use Permit to hunt and this money ONLY goes to LBL. LBL can keep their quota hunts the same. Why would they have to change just because of archery hunters? "Once they did that then we will have more than double the number of archery hunters in there all over the place." I doubt it would be double. The increased number of hunters from both sides would generate more income for BOTH sides and that would be a good thing.
You missed it.
Right now you have to buy one state license and one LBL permit and hunt one side only.
If they allowed people to hunt both sides.
You would buy ONE license and ONE LBL permit and hunt TWO sides.
If this happened I would be able to hunt the Tn side for FREE since I already have my Ky license and LBL permit. Everybody in Ky would now be able to hunt the TN side for FREE same as the Tn hunters would be able to hunt the Ky side for FREE since they would already have a Tn license and LBL permit.
Look at people who only hunter LBL once every few years. They now have a EXTRA state side to hunt in for what it cost to hunt the Tn side. you givr people all that EXTRA land to hunt on and they are coming and bringing their brothers and brothers-in-law with them. And it will NOT only be Tn hunters but Kentucky hunters from all over the state will be heading to hunt both sides.
They will go to places they have never been able to hunt before because they never bought a out of state license. Before you know it you will have several "new" out of state people around your favorite spots and since it's "public" land there is nothing you can do except get there first.
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#1768008 - 02/04/10 08:05 PM
Re: LBL- TN or KY which side is better?
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Those "new" archery hunters would raise the odds against people getting drawn for the gun hunts. The more people apply for the same number of slots the higher the odds become. Right now the average wait is something like 3 years. Add more "new" applications to it and the average can easy go up to a 4 year wait.
There is NO way LBL can increase the number of gun hunters without effecting the deer heard so those numbers are limited.
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